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Yngwie 08-02-2010 07:05 PM

If someone wanted to start a phone sex business....
 
Who would be the best and easiest to use for credit card billing? A friend of mine is curious about this so I figured that I would ask here. Any info would be helpful. :)

Yngwie 08-02-2010 07:25 PM

bump before I go to bed.

BigDeanEvans 08-02-2010 07:33 PM

You're about 25 yrs late on that one..good luck

Deej 08-02-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 17383006)
You're about 25 yrs late on that one..good luck

Youre absolutely wrong.


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Credit Card billing is a must. You can use other methods of course but you are missing out on the majority of your potential payments without it.

It is high risk of course so there are exaggerated fees to incur when setting up.

epitome 08-02-2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 17383006)
You're about 25 yrs late on that one..good luck

Perhaps late to make a mint, but based on the fact that late TV is still full of commercials for phone sex, people are still turning a profit.

Smokieflame 08-02-2010 07:46 PM

In the 90s and early 2000s Don Laprie had the phone sex biz on lock down. You may remember his late night infomercial for his Making Money with Ads program. Since he went belly up in 01 I am sure it left a large gag in this biz so being 25 years to late is a bit wrong. There are a few really good billing companies out there for this type of billing (sadly i dont know there names but easily searchable) But like Deej said this is a HIGH risk biz for chargebacks, even more so then Porn. And charging by the minute can ad up in some huge chargebacks so the fees involved are very HIGH.

BigDeanEvans 08-02-2010 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17383010)
Youre absolutely wrong.


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Credit Card billing is a must. You can use other methods of course but you are missing out on the majority of your potential payments without it.

It is high risk of course so there are exaggerated fees to incur when setting up.


is phone sex the new gold rush?

Deej 08-02-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 17383068)
is phone sex the new gold rush?

gold rush? Depends on how you market it. Its nowhere near 25 years too late to start a PS biz.

Agent 488 08-02-2010 08:22 PM

i don`t think don lapre was in the phone sex biz.

Axzar 08-02-2010 09:59 PM

Apply at my sig.. Phone sex is no problem. Our current phone sex clients consistently do very well.

jerryb 08-03-2010 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigDeanEvans (Post 17383068)
is phone sex the new gold rush?

It always has been ... and ... is presently HOT!!!

:thumbsup

Yngwie 08-03-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokieflame (Post 17383034)
In the 90s and early 2000s Don Laprie had the phone sex biz on lock down. You may remember his late night infomercial for his Making Money with Ads program. Since he went belly up in 01 I am sure it left a large gag in this biz so being 25 years to late is a bit wrong. There are a few really good billing companies out there for this type of billing (sadly i dont know there names but easily searchable) But like Deej said this is a HIGH risk biz for chargebacks, even more so then Porn. And charging by the minute can ad up in some huge chargebacks so the fees involved are very HIGH.

You mean Don Lapre? The "I made millions place smalls ads" guy. haha. He wasn't in the phone sex business. ;) I know that this is a high risk business, but it's still profitable if ran properly.

Yngwie 08-03-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17384010)
You mean Don Lapre? The "I made millions place smalls ads" guy. haha. He wasn't in the phone sex business. ;) I know that this is a high risk business, but it's still profitable if ran properly.



placing not place. haha

kristin 08-03-2010 08:57 AM

Let me guess, your "friend" is you and your lady, isn't it?!? ; )

Yngwie 08-03-2010 09:11 AM

You're partly right.. I have nothing to do with it, but my girlfriend would be the "friend". I'm just trying to get her as much info as possible. :)

Deej 08-03-2010 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17384182)
You're partly right.. I have nothing to do with it, but my girlfriend would be the "friend". I'm just trying to get her as much info as possible. :)

Well its pretty hard to be successful as a solo phone sex operator and might not be worth it as a solo enterprise when dealing with merchant accounts and what not. If she is interested in working for an already setup company thats been going for years, have her hit me up and Ill connect her with my girls :)

Yngwie 08-03-2010 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17384298)
Well its pretty hard to be successful as a solo phone sex operator and might not be worth it as a solo enterprise when dealing with merchant accounts and what not. If she is interested in working for an already setup company thats been going for years, have her hit me up and Ill connect her with my girls :)

Oh I know it will not be an easy thing, but this is something she really wants so I'm trying to get her as much info as possible. She's been working for a company for a couple years. At first as a pso then later both pso and dispatcher. She's been talking about starting her own thing for years, but at this point she's much more serious about doing this. She doesn't expect it to make her a fortune and I make sure to tell her things that won't over inflate her expectations.

Either way, I just want to get as much useful info as possible and even though I won't actually be involved with the actual phone sex part I will still do whatever I can to help her. :) Which company is it that you're talking about?

Yngwie 08-03-2010 12:46 PM

Another bump. :)

Yngwie 08-03-2010 07:57 PM

Heading to bed, but wanted to bump my thread.

Deej 08-03-2010 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17384338)
Oh I know it will not be an easy thing, but this is something she really wants so I'm trying to get her as much info as possible. She's been working for a company for a couple years. At first as a pso then later both pso and dispatcher. She's been talking about starting her own thing for years, but at this point she's much more serious about doing this. She doesn't expect it to make her a fortune and I make sure to tell her things that won't over inflate her expectations.

Either way, I just want to get as much useful info as possible and even though I won't actually be involved with the actual phone sex part I will still do whatever I can to help her. :) Which company is it that you're talking about?

I was going to ask you the same question about whose shes been working with :winkwink:

Frasier 08-04-2010 03:08 AM

I know several phone sex girls who make well over 5k monthly. There is plenty of money in this niche

Yngwie 08-04-2010 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17386215)
I was going to ask you the same question about whose shes been working with :winkwink:


Well, they don't have a website or anything, but from what I remember seeing on her pay stubs it said JJL Inc. I think. Either way, she doesn't really like that place.

Sabby 08-04-2010 08:12 AM

Niteflirt and Talksugar...

I make about $2k/month between the 2... lately...

I used to do $1k/day on nf...


Sabby:)

xmas13 08-04-2010 08:21 AM

Tell her to go to college :)

Sabby 08-04-2010 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabby (Post 17387056)
Niteflirt and Talksugar...

I make about $2k/month between the 2... lately...

I used to do $1k/day on nf...


Sabby:)

Im not the top girl on there anymore though... Ive spread out... I dont trust anyone enough to be exclusive.


Sabby:)

SilkySnatch 08-04-2010 08:28 AM

Niteflirt is good for the solo girl.. I have done phonesex through Niteflirt for 5 years averaging around $62,000 a year after I pay taxes... I also worked for a really good company for 2 years, tons of whales..

Sabby 08-04-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SilkySnatch (Post 17387101)
Niteflirt is good for the solo girl.. I have done phonesex through Niteflirt for 5 years averaging around $62,000 a year after I pay taxes... I also worked for a really good company for 2 years, tons of whales..

You should have alot of tax writeoffs working from home... (my accountant just found something i didnt claim in 10 years worth about $10k.. I could go back... but its alot of paperwork and have rev can up my ass.. lol... I just survived an audit).

Sabby:)

Sabby 08-04-2010 08:59 AM

Niteflirt is awesome though... they had some issues breaking away from keen but I think they are coming back. If only they would launch a new affil program...


Sabby:)

Deej 08-04-2010 10:26 AM

Niteflirt Is actually declining. Its still profoitable but as far as I know and can see they are dwindling out.

Sabby 08-04-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17387439)
Niteflirt Is actually declining. Its still profoitable but as far as I know and can see they are dwindling out.

I still get some worthwhile calls and video sales :)


Sabby:)

Yngwie 08-04-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17387439)
Niteflirt Is actually declining. Its still profoitable but as far as I know and can see they are dwindling out.

My girlfriend tried niteflirt and it didn't make her much at all.

SilkySnatch 08-04-2010 01:08 PM

With niteflirt you make your money off of your regulars.. I have about 15-20 guys who call everyday to once or twice a week, you are sort of doing the GFE thing over the phone with them..

@Sabby, with taxes I use a tax preparer that specializes in adult performers, she is pretty good http://www.taxdomme.com/ :)

I worked for LDW for a few years, really good company she has a lot of "elite" clientele

Yngwie 08-04-2010 04:41 PM

Ok, with all the replies in this thread there has only been one post mentioning anything having to do with processing. There has to be more that do this type of processing.

MikeSmoke 08-05-2010 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17387439)
Niteflirt Is actually declining. Its still profoitable but as far as I know and can see they are dwindling out.

That's exactly right. They made some VERY stupid decisions during the whole keen separation and from what I understand, they've never recovered.

Yngwie 08-05-2010 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeSmoke (Post 17390837)
That's exactly right. They made some VERY stupid decisions during the whole keen separation and from what I understand, they've never recovered.

Plus there are way to many girls on NF for a new one to actually make anything noticeable.

Sabby 08-05-2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17392671)
Plus there are way to many girls on NF for a new one to actually make anything noticeable.

You used to be able to pay to feature your listings... so that would make it easier for a new girl to get started. Now you must rely on your click/conversion ratio to keep you on top. I have a mailing list of about 3000 I could/should be working that more.

I dont like to put all my eggs in one basket anymore... but you can only ever be the best at something if u focus yourself on that one thing...

Sabby:)

notime 08-05-2010 01:18 PM

Drop me a line if anybody would need 1000+ mp3's in legal audio stories I have in English, German or Dutch language.

TrashyGirl 08-06-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17384010)
You mean Don Lapre? The "I made millions place smalls ads" guy. haha. He wasn't in the phone sex business. ;) I know that this is a high risk business, but it's still profitable if ran properly.

I'm vaguely remembering he was promoting a 1-900 phone sex line along with the sports bets tips line, scoop line, psychic line?

BucksGuru 08-06-2010 02:37 PM

i think phone sex business its so bad idea for this time

Yngwie 08-06-2010 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BucksGuru (Post 17396479)
i think phone sex business its so bad idea for this time

I don't think that any business idea is bad. It's all on how you run it. Some people would start something like this and expect huge returns quickly which is why many would fail. Sure, the economy sucks, many people are jobless, but there is still money to be made. It will require more work, but it can be profitable.

Yngwie 08-07-2010 11:49 PM

Another bump for more info.

TrashyGirl 08-08-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 17389805)
Ok, with all the replies in this thread there has only been one post mentioning anything having to do with processing. There has to be more that do this type of processing.

For adult biz including phonesex, MP3, membership site fees or cam, Zombaio processses, they're in your sig.

CCBill processes, but if you want Visa and not just MC and Disc (plus JCB for int'l), you have to pay $750 annual Visa fee. Zombaio absorbs that fee for you.

There's also a processor who is promoting to audiotext providers - connectcollect.com - $397 set up fee and at least $49 p/m fee per month, all 4 major cc's. But I'm not sure they're using an adult merchant account because Amex began getting out of the adult "intangibles" like audiotext, so I think connectcollect might be using the "middleman model". Caller uploads money to connectcollect and then connectcollect pays the provider of the service. Not saying it's shady, just seems to be the way they do it.

Yngwie 08-10-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TrashyGirl (Post 17400145)
For adult biz including phonesex, MP3, membership site fees or cam, Zombaio processses, they're in your sig.

CCBill processes, but if you want Visa and not just MC and Disc (plus JCB for int'l), you have to pay $750 annual Visa fee. Zombaio absorbs that fee for you.

There's also a processor who is promoting to audiotext providers - connectcollect.com - $397 set up fee and at least $49 p/m fee per month, all 4 major cc's. But I'm not sure they're using an adult merchant account because Amex began getting out of the adult "intangibles" like audiotext, so I think connectcollect might be using the "middleman model". Caller uploads money to connectcollect and then connectcollect pays the provider of the service. Not saying it's shady, just seems to be the way they do it.

Zombaio does not process for what's needed in this case.

Yngwie 08-17-2010 10:37 PM

I need more info... if you don't want to post the info in here you can ICQ me: 16544251 or email me at [email protected]

Serial Pervert 08-18-2010 06:23 AM

does it still exist?

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