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  • CYF
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    • Mar 2009
    • 10973
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    McDonalds no longer largest chain restaurant

    It's official: the Subway sandwich chain has surpassed McDonald's Corp. (NYSE: MCD - News) as the world's largest restaurant chain, in terms of units.

    At the end of last year, Subway had 33,749 restaurants worldwide, compared to McDonald's 32,737. The burger giant disclosed its year-end store count in a Securities and Exchange Commission filing late last month.
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    • OY
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        • thickcash_amo
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          • Sep 2009
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          #3
          Watch out for the "super size me" about how subway really isnt that healthy

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            • wehateporn
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              • Apr 2007
              • 27176
              #4
              Subway is certainly the lesser of the two evils

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                • marketsmart
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                  • Dec 2004
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                  #5
                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                  Subway is certainly the lesser of the two evils
                  they make their cold cuts from the horses asshole...

                  how is that healthy?






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                    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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                      • Jul 2006
                      • 20368
                      #6
                      Plain and simple, the franchise requirements to open a Subway are much lower than a McDonalds...

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                        • arock10
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 6217
                          #7
                          each subway is way smaller revenuewise then a mcdonalds though...
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                            • Deputy Chief Command
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                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4482
                              #8
                              hmmm, Mc Donalds usually have bigger outlets .. some subway restaurants I have seen or 7 square feet or less..nothing I would really call a "restaurant" ... never seen McDonalds as small as you have subways .. wich makes it a lot easyier to get that many , me thinks

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                                • brassmonkey
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                                  subway sucks
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                                        • Jakez
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                                          • Jan 2004
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                                          #11
                                          Lots of subways are inside gas stations too.
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                                            • SGS
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                                              • Dec 2002
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                                              #12
                                              Both taste like utter fucking shit.
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                                                • Deputy Chief Command
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                                                  • Nov 2005
                                                  • 4482
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by SGS
                                                  Both taste like utter fucking shit.
                                                  dont diss Subway man ..




                                                  these are the best . .. nothing tops it !!!

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                                                    • Rochard
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                                                      • Dec 2001
                                                      • 75733
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                                                      Plain and simple, the franchise requirements to open a Subway are much lower than a McDonalds...
                                                      That's exactly what it is too.

                                                      I used to work at a Subway. Used to bonk my girlfriend on the prep table. Good times.
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                                                        • Itchy
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                                                          • Jan 2001
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                          That's exactly what it is too.

                                                          I used to work at a Subway. Used to bonk my girlfriend on the prep table. Good times.


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                                                            • candyflip
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                                                              Plain and simple, the franchise requirements to open a Subway are much lower than a McDonalds...
                                                              No doubt.

                                                              There's a Subway here locally for sale for under $150k. Good luck getting even a whiff of a McD's franchise for that amount.

                                                              Tim Horton's (which is run by Wendy's here in the States) is exploding, at least where I'm at. You can't drive 1 mile without running into one.

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                                                                • Spunky
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                                                                  • Jun 2002
                                                                  • 133986
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Quiznos,toasted tastes better

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                                                                    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                      • 20368
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                      That's exactly what it is too.

                                                                      I used to work at a Subway. Used to bonk my girlfriend on the prep table. Good times.
                                                                      In highschool a friends mom owned the Subway in town. When we had nowhere else to party, she'd steal the keys and we'd all get wrecked in the back. I remember doinmg bong rips in the freezer...

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                                                                        • fatfoo
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                                                                          • Mar 2003
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Congratulations, Subway, with surpassing McDonalds Company. The food tastes great. 33,749 restaurants is sure a lot of locations. Subway is sometimes confused with similar restaurants, such as Mr. Sub or A-Sandwich.
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                                                                            • candyflip
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                                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                                              • 43069
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Spunky
                                                                              Quiznos,toasted tastes better
                                                                              3 of the 4 of those that opened here are now closed. The one that's still open is in a mall...next to Subway.

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                                                                                • CYF
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                                                                                  • Mar 2009
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Spunky
                                                                                  Quiznos,toasted tastes better
                                                                                  Quiznos is good too. If you want toasted, definitely do quiznos. The toasted subs at Subway get hard and taste like shit.
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                                                                                    • L-Pink
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                                                                                      • Mar 2005
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      I would rather own 1 McDonalds than 20 Subways ... and total sales probably reflect that as well.


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                                                                                        • tabasco
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                                                                                          • Jul 2006
                                                                                          • 2624
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Really? I would never have guessed that. Pretty sure it's not the case in Australia... McDonalds are everywhere. I hate them both.
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                                                                                            • Aric
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                                                                                              • Sep 2002
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                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by Spunky
                                                                                              Quiznos,toasted tastes better
                                                                                              The three of those that opened up here in Windsor, all shut down within about 3 years.
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                                                                                                • kristin
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                                                                                                    • will76
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                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                      • 18037
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by thickcash_amo
                                                                                                      Watch out for the "super size me" about how subway really isnt that healthy
                                                                                                      They are not "healthy". They are "healthier" than fast food restaurants like McDonalds, about 10x healthier. Subway discloses the nutritional contents of all of their sandwiches, easy enough for people to compare that to McDonald's crap and see Subway is a lot better.


                                                                                                      Subway might have the most locations, but that is mainly because they put them anywhere. They are mostly in strip malls, regular malls or gas stations, where as the vast majority of McDonald's are stand alone buildings. If McDonalds did it the "subway way" they would probably have 200K locations. Hell of a lot more cost to buy the land and build a stand alone building vs renting a location in a strip mall.
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                                                                                                        • Mutt
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                                                                                                          • Sep 2002
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                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command
                                                                                                          dont diss Subway man ..




                                                                                                          these are the best . .. nothing tops it !!!
                                                                                                          you gotta be kidding me - you must live in the middle of nowhere if you don't have at least one Italian mom and pop pizza/sandwich shop that makes a meatball sandwich that laughs at that Subway meatball sub

                                                                                                          comparing a McDonalds restaurant to a Subway shop is ridiculous - a Subway franchise costs about $100K - McDonalds close to $1-2M depending on the size of the city and you need 25% of that upfront in cash, unencumbered cash - they don't want people who have to borrow or mortgage to put up $250-500K.

                                                                                                          i just googled, that 25% increases to 40% if you want to build a brand new restaurant, 25% is for buying an existing restaurant.

                                                                                                          i eat it because there literally was a Subway shop 300 yards from my front door but i'm not a Subway fan
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                                                                                                            • tonyparra
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                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              fuck you haters i love working at subway its easy ass moneys!

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                                                                                                                • tonyparra
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Deputy Chief Command
                                                                                                                  dont diss Subway man ..




                                                                                                                  these are the best . .. nothing tops it !!!

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                                                                                                                    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                                                                                                      a Subway franchise costs about $100K
                                                                                                                      Subway is the cheapest fast food Franchise to get into in North America. Your franchise fees are 1/3 that of McDonalds, as are the royalties paid. Another thing that leads to a lot of Subways are the population requirements. McDonalds won't even consider you if you're applying for a franchise in a town with a population of less than 10,000. Subway doesn't give a shit how backwoods you are as long as you turn up the cash. I know the guy who owns the local Subway franchise pretty well, we talk about it once in a while when I pop in to grab a coffee...

                                                                                                                      McDonald's
                                                                                                                      Total Investment: $118,375-$1,900,000
                                                                                                                      Initial Franchise Fee: $45,000
                                                                                                                      Royalty Fee: 12.5%+
                                                                                                                      Advertising Fee: N/A
                                                                                                                      Term of Agreement: 20 years
                                                                                                                      Renewal Fee: $45K

                                                                                                                      Subway
                                                                                                                      Total Investment: $78,600-$238,300
                                                                                                                      Initial Franchise Fee: $15,000
                                                                                                                      Royalty Fee: 8%
                                                                                                                      Advertising Fee: N/A
                                                                                                                      Term of Agreement: 20 years
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                                                                                                                        • xNetworx
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                                                                                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                          • 14445
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          I actually like Subway. However, I usually take a year off from it every 3-4 years.

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                                                                                                                            • LRS
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                                                                                                                              • Jan 2011
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                                                                                                                              subway is awesome.. just for the quick and run out on the street.. would not go to mc donalds or others
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                                                                                                                                • pamon
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                                                                                                                                  costs and overall revenues of a McD's definitely outweigh Subway. Average subway might pull in 3-5k daily? McD's pulls in much more than that + larger variety of menu + profit makers. A $5 subway has minimal profits but they make it up in volume.
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                                                                                                                                      both are disgusting restaurants people, eat at home and be healthy!

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                                                                                                                                        • Sausage
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                                                                                                                                          Not sure what type of subs you get over there, but here in Australia you can eat very well at subway. Just avoid the white bread, dont get the fatty fillings, and choose a healthier sauce. Of course if you are gonna get a meatball sub, double cheese on white bread it's no different than getting a burger from maccas.
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                                                                                                                                              got food poising back in 2000 at a Sun Valley SW franchise never again.

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                                                                                                                                                • will76
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                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                                                                                                                                                  Subway is the cheapest fast food Franchise to get into in North America. Your franchise fees are 1/3 that of McDonalds, as are the royalties paid. Another thing that leads to a lot of Subways are the population requirements. McDonalds won't even consider you if you're applying for a franchise in a town with a population of less than 10,000. Subway doesn't give a shit how backwoods you are as long as you turn up the cash. I know the guy who owns the local Subway franchise pretty well, we talk about it once in a while when I pop in to grab a coffee...

                                                                                                                                                  McDonald's
                                                                                                                                                  Total Investment: $118,375-$1,900,000
                                                                                                                                                  Initial Franchise Fee: $45,000
                                                                                                                                                  Royalty Fee: 12.5%+
                                                                                                                                                  Advertising Fee: N/A
                                                                                                                                                  Term of Agreement: 20 years
                                                                                                                                                  Renewal Fee: $45K

                                                                                                                                                  Subway
                                                                                                                                                  Total Investment: $78,600-$238,300
                                                                                                                                                  Initial Franchise Fee: $15,000
                                                                                                                                                  Royalty Fee: 8%
                                                                                                                                                  Advertising Fee: N/A
                                                                                                                                                  Term of Agreement: 20 years
                                                                                                                                                  Its really not the initial franchise fee or royalties but the total investment. McDonalds you have to buy land and build a nice big building. Subway you find a strip mall and you lease a space from them. I wonder what % of subway franchise owners own the land/builder vs subway franchise owners...
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                                                                                                                                                          homemade food is alot better then the 2
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                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                                                                                  Its really not the initial franchise fee or royalties but the total investment. McDonalds you have to buy land and build a nice big building. Subway you find a strip mall and you lease a space from them. I wonder what % of subway franchise owners own the land/builder vs subway franchise owners...
                                                                                                                                                                  I thought that mcdonalds owned the land on most of its stores and the franchise owner payed rent. Most of mcdonalds money comes from the land that they own.
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