First, you have to stalk Chris Mallick, man.

I've seen a porno Kung Fu video where a man spins around in circles on top of a woman while his dick is in her pussy. This seems fun.

Kung Fu, no doubt. You will learn how to fly and shit at advanced levels.

Besides show me one BJJ guy that skips across water and can paralyze an attacker with three quick strikes to the body.

It aint no mystery that UFC only became popular after David Carradine died, he would not stand for that shit.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Would you learn a martial art where they sell blackbelts on Ebay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Jiu-Jitsu-Authen...#ht_500wt_1156

At least with Kung Fu, you know if you train with an asian guy you are getting the real shit. Can't say the same with BJJ. I heard a white guy with a brazilian accent teaching it.

What's better: a tape recorder or a radio?

You're going to have to explain that analogy.

I'd personally suggest Krav, but since it's not an option.. BJJ for sure.

I know mostly Krav, but also know some BJJ, Aikido, and random techniques from a bunch of other styles. Krav/BJJ are my strong points, though. No where near JustDave and Anthony.. lol

To me, a combo of Krav and BJJ... you can't get any better. Of course, the best option in any fight is to attempt talking your way out of it.. that is the best self-defense. If it's not an option, learn BJJ/Krav :thumbsup

Well... Thanks for blowing my cover Broham! :winkwink:

Simple because Brazillian Jujitsu and Shaolin WUShu (western people used to call it "Kung Fu" which means "Master") are absolutely different kinds of MA. Can you compare English boxing and Japan Dzudo? These techniques are different and they are created for different races. As about real application, both techniques are not good. They are designed for sport but not for man killing.

So let me get this straight, if I"m asian, I should train kung fu?

What exactly do you mean man killing?

Yes it is. Is you an Asian, you can't (usually) depend on your muscular power (like Fedor Emilianinko), so you need something different.





It's much easier to learn how to kill a man without a weapon rather than to knock him down in a sport sparring.

For example, I'm not a black belt on karate, but I was learning on how to break a spine with minimum of effort, or kill an enemy with a digging tool or a drawbolt etc, when I was a student of a military chair in Russia.

You've never been in a fight in your life. How many spines have you broken in your lifetime? The whole "my martial art is too deadly" and "Sport fighting isn't" argument is flawed in the most basic way possible. I know I can knock someone out with a punch, I know I can break limbs, I know I can choke someone out, because a sporting environment allows me to test my skills in an alive manner against a fully resistant opponent.

You watch too much movies and believe to much bullshit. I'm going to have to put you under the same category as that doc fellow as deluded.

As for race mattering in fighting... I'm not even going to respond to that.

I agree 100%. If you had been a master of Kung Fu, you could have easily defeated Cory when you guys brawled at Man Party.

Not a sport at all:

Systema? That's like the new Krav Maga. Tae Kwon Do guys go take a 2 week certification to teach it.

Seriously, I'd like to know how many spines you've broken.

Cory is now boxing. And I'm going to spar with him this weekend! I know he wants payback.

You don't understand something. I never killed anyone. Here in my country it's almost impossible to prove it even if your opponent has a gun. As about fight, yes, I never been in a real fight in my live (I'm not talking about a usual street brawl). Fight is always means to kill. Thanks god, I never was involved into a REAL fight. As about a usual street brawl, I was grown in a very criminal block and I was need to beat faces and (of course) get my face beaten almost weekly. And one more thing, I was learning MA during a few years when I was younger.

Not it's not at all. It's "УНИБОС" something that Russian special forces learn. There are 3 different types of it: for police, special forces and for army. Difference very straight. Police system has a goal to immobilize, but military has to kill.

Ok, so you've never broken anyone's spine then? So, how do you know what you trained in, with a fully compliant training partner, works in real life with someone fighting back?

Yes I never did that. But I know how to do this, in a same way as I know how to stick a cleaning rod into an ear etc. This kind of "knowledge" can be trained only schematically on a real person. I believe you understand why.

No, I don't understand why because fighting is not the same thing as cleaning out your ear. If you've never broken anyone's spine in a real fight, then you don't know if it works or not.

In sport environment, you use techniques at 100%, against someone fighting back 100%. That's how you know if a martial art works.

That's why Judo when Kano created it beat every Jiu Jitsu school in Japan except one. That school trained in ground fighting (ne waza), which then became a part of Judo. And ultimately made it's way to Brazil and further evolved to BJJ.

Did you shot someone's head with a gun? I think no. But I believe you know it will work well. Right?

Furthermore, when I was younger I had a second place in contacting karate on regional level (something like as a state level in the USA). But I never considered it something really helpful on the streets. Sport is a sport, but real life is a real life.

Both times Fedor Emelianenko lose, he lose to Jiu Jitsu guys. FYI: Fedor has trained a combatant SAMBO which is based on Judo (a bit more brutal version of it).

i would never do any sports where i have to cuddle with another guy. i'd rather learn how to keep a distance between them and me ;)

sounds like the decision is about what you want rather than which form is better.

I've shot at paper targets that look like someone's head at practice. But in the real world, they aren't standing still, and they are shooting back. Fail.

Point fighting Karate isn't fighting. It's touching someone lightly with your foot or hand.

You haven't a clue my friend, go train in a real martial art where they aren't fully compliant, and will fight back.

"I know Shaolin Kung fu" sounds WAY better than "I know Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu". You'll even have your own song.....

:)

But, don't listen to me - I am fat!

Nothing wrong with that Stefan, but what happens when that guy decides he wants to grab you and you go to the ground. What now?

I knew Anthony would bring this thread a couple pages.

I'll throw in my .02 here.

I'm into long forms so I would choose Kung Fu. IMO there's long forms in Kung Fu that can benefit my mind and body more.

If I need to kick someones ass by summer time. I'd take Jujitsu :thumbsup

Yes, I know Fedor has lost, twice now. And he lost to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu guys.

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and MMA are sports btw. Do you think they wouldn't work in the real world?

BJJ for great ground techniques, locks and chokes.
Wu-shu for forms, striking and fun with weapons.

So knockouts and kicked out tooth don't cont? Personally I got 2 ribs broken (completely) on that competition. You call it touching? :) BTW, I was under 18 y.o. that time.

The last time I got my rib broken (it still hurts a lot) when we were boxing 3 weeks ago with my son (he's a 16 y.o. boy with brown belt on Aikido and serious background in kudo - a rather new but very interesting MMA) :)

Against a screwdriver or a brass knuckles? I don't think so.

i'll bite his ankle :winkwink:

seriously - i worked out a very special technique over the last 39 years: i discuss my opponent to death. :1orglaugh

that worked even in my times as bouncer. i have once knocked out some drunk nazi asshat but i surprised him and my first hit was also my last. thats my whole fighting history since 7th grade.

some people attract trouble, i don't.

My mistake, I assumed point fighting. So you knocked someone out, broke your ribs, and you think sports fighting isn't for the street?

But sports fighting isn't good for the streets? I don't get it, if all these things happened in a sports environment for you, what makes you think it's not applicable for the street?

What makes you think the BJJ guy doesn't have a screwdriver and brass knuckles? Anytime you see me in the real world, most likely I'll have a GLOCK on me. What's your point?

You really think your Systema, Krav Maga is going to do better?

I have to agree with that assessment. One of the nicest guys I know!

Yes it is. A friend of mine is a lucky bastard. He got his liver cut with the knife almost into two half. I believe he's the one of 100's who's got alive after that.

My son got his first knife hand injury when he was 12. Yes, the Aikido background has helped him that time, but I believe it was a kind of luck, and I don't want him to be in such a situation again.

Anthony, the real live is not a sport.

For the street? Yes of course! They don't care about kicking someone's balls, poked the eyeballs, smashing Adam's apple, using any hard item (e.g. keys) to break a temple or run away as fast as they can. Because the real goal on the streets is to SURVIVE. Anything else doesn't matter.