What the hell is it with your stupid ass questions? Half the damn planet doesn't have running water and it isn't us in the 1st and 2nd world Countries without.

Anyway, use Google.. for the love of god, educate yourself.



Starting as young as 7 (and yes younger), common is 9-12, under 16 almost always. Research it.. Google it, take 5 minutes and educate yourself, at least attempt it. Start with the UNICEF, it's a fund/org for helping kids and they have a huge focus on underage forced marriages in the Middle East, Asia and Africa.

That isn't religious freedom, at any level... asshole.

This stain moelouban needs to be banned from here if he thinks children being forced into marriage is okay because of religion.

This industry doesn't need people like him hanging around.

That is kind of like saying if a girl wears a short skirt she is asking for it. No woman or girl deserves to be raped regardless of what kind of situation they put themselves into and if they do put themselves into a situation where they are alone with a man and they do get raped, the should not be further punished for it.


While I don't think we should be telling people they can and can't have kids, I just feel sorry for the kids born in places like that. Here in the US if you are born into a very religious family in your early life you have no choice in the matter, you are going to be doing what the family says. But when you become an adult you can choose to walk away from it and live a life you want. That is simply not the case in a lot of middle eastern countries. Still, we can't tell people to not have kids because we don't agree with how they live their lives, I just feel bad for those kids.

We are all human and we do all deserve the freedom to choose what we want in life, but as of right now we don't all have the same rights. Maybe some day that will change. Maybe some day everyone on this planet will have the ability to choose to live however they want and not fear for their lives because of that choice. At the moment that isn't the case, but maybe some day it will be.

All of this, for me, goes back to your original statement that only Americans are intolerant and I think it is pretty clear now that this is not the case. Everyone in this world has some level of intolerance. Some people more than others. Intolerance is a human trait, not an American trait.

Ok one more post just to firmly grind you into the ground.

You said to go look at UNICEF - so I did. I'm not a closed minded person, I will always try to learn if I can. But most of the time I just reaffirm that I'm right most of the time.

This is another one of those times.

UNICEF publication and the information I learned from it:

http://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/digest7e.pdf

Asia, Africa and Latin Americans all marry younger than Arabs and marry younger more frequently than Arabs. Average age at first marriage in Egypt - 22, average age at first marriage in Yemen - 21.

Looks like you were wrong yet again.

Goodnight.

No, Christians aren't shooting Muslims. We aren't in the Middle East as Christians; Our armies are not "Christian" warriors. We aren't fighting in the name of any god. We are there because of what one nation did to another nation, or what one nation did to the world center.

Yeah no girl deserves to get raped no matter what the situation is but if the law is that she can't wear a short skirt and she wears a short skirt then she deserves the punishment that comes with it. Those are the rules.

What makes you think people don't have the right to just get up and walk away when they are adults? Women can divorce men anywhere in the Middle East, and you aren't forced to stay in your country anywhere. Just more stereotypes and stuff with no real basis. :disgust

George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa

I don't just say random things like you. I have backup for every word, every letter.

Wow, you're a class A idiot, asshole and asshat all mixed into one.

We aren't talking about the average jack ass, we're talking about the FACTS that they allow children to marry adults, that it is forced, that it is rape... you sick fuck!

What I don't get is why you would try to divert the facts, ignore the truth, what asshole person would pretend as if this problem doesn't exist?

Truly... fuck off you shit stain for a human.

Oh so you're saying that in isolated cases, there is underage marriage that is forced there? That would never happen in the US!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundame...r_Da y_Saints

Yawn. How many times do I need to make you look like an idiot?

No I'm not saying it's isolated like a few Church members or people do in every country that are sick fucks as well.

I'm saying it's widely accepted throughout the middle east... that it's widely practiced, forced, and happening daily, that the religion supports it, that the laws support it.... I'm saying that part of the world is filled with sick perverted fucks basically.

I know now you're a denier, a supporter of those that force children into marriage through denial, you're a complete shit stain on this planet and should have your balls cut off before you hurt anyone.

Oh it's widely practiced? Didn't I just show you data that shows you that it isn't widely practiced. That the average age of marriage was above 20? Are you really so ignorant as to ignore information from a source that YOU picked, that I JUST showed you?

Oh now I see your edit, let me comment on that part:

Raaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrr I AM AMERICAN!! I WILL CUT YOUR BALLS OFF!! RAAAAAAWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRR!!!

And yet again, when it comes down to it you guys are shit fighters and outclassed by even the most rugged Afghan fighters that are laughing their way to a victory against you guys now. All talk. Nothing else. So sad.

No you showed the average age idiot... if the average age was 50, it wouldn't change the fact that it's happening to children daily - you sick pile of crap.

The difference being that in the US (and Canada) when that sort of behavior is found out the perpetrators are prosecuted and put behind bars. Fact is the major bulk of the N American population and legal systems DO NOT tolerate underage abuses, forced marriages and rape of children whatsoever.

Over in your neck of the woods though it seems to be quite commonplace and acceptable.



I'm not sure why you need that explained to you though, it's right in the article you linked to. Did you perhaps not read it?

Getting your balls cut off in that part of the world isn't unheard of. Why would this be an American thing? Hell they cut clits off so the girl have no sexual pleasures - this is more common stuff for these stains.

Yep, out classed... and laughing too, yep. We've got the oil, the natural gas line, the drugs, the minerals and now our corporations are taking completely over - yep, America is all talk! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

LOL You mean the oil you BUY from the Middle East? Right, keep on thinking you're getting it for free while dictators line their palaces with gold and stuff their safes with your money until the day the people can come and get it.


Wait since it happens in the US as well. Are you saying that the United States is just a bunch of rapist perverts? Since we're talking about it happening to children daily, and it happens to children daily in the United States, are you as an American a rapist pervert?

The rates of young marriage are way higher in South America and Asian countries. Are you saying those countries are full of rapists as well? Or are you just an anti-Semite?

You guys say this as if the girl has no choice, can't refuse the marriage and is stuck no matter what. That doesn't happen, and if it does, it's called rape and it is prosecuted as such. Women have a right to refuse marriage in Islam and marriage can't happen if the woman isn't willing even if her family wants it to happen.

So what is the complaint here, that they allow marriages to happen at a young age? Men aren't allowed to consummate the marriage until the girl goes through puberty and only if the girl is willing too.

I guess that is wrong though, those kids shouldn't be getting married they should be in little relationships that mean nothing giving blowjobs to whoever is the guy of the week like your average Canadian/American 13 year old. :disgust:disgust

I have always felt that a punishment should suit the crime. Being lashed or going to jail for wearing a skirt or sitting with someone who is not in your family or just being in public alone is not a fair punishment. Call me an American hypocrite if you want, but that is what I believe.

That might be true in some countries,but not in other and if you truly believe that most middle eastern women can just walk away, get divorced and live a normal life you are living with your head in the sand. In many of these places getting a divorce for a man is simple, but a woman must go through a whole battery of thing and the process can drag out for years. This is not to mention that in many middle eastern countries women often make only 20-50% of what men do for the same work (if they can find work at all) so it is nearly impossible for a woman to support herself. The system is set up to keep women in a position of servitude and dependent on the men.

Then explain to me why there are so many honor killings in islamic families, one of the main reasons for them being wanting to terminate or prevent an arranged marriage or desiring to marry by own choice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing


Of course official islamic sites deny the existance of honor killings inside the religion and it's laws: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503543392

But that doesn't change the fact that many, not just a few but MANY islamic families have and do take the law into their own hands and perform honor killings throughout the islamic world.

Again, widely investigated, widely documented, several credible documentaries done on this over the years. I saw on a tv newsmagazine series just recently about a few that have been reported within the past few months.

http://www.islam-watch.org/SyedKamra...or_killing.htm

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...orkilling.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kamran..._b_168401.html

http://www.islamist-watch.org/928/do...honor-killings

Sorry, but again you're off-base and sadly misinformed. If you think that thousands of young women in the muslim world aren't being brutally killed, some for having the temerity to simply want to marry who they want rather than who they are told to marry, then you simply aren't keeping yourself informed or you are flat-out ignoring the problem. I can see why you'd choose to ignore it, since it's a complete and utter shame on your entire way of life and belief system.

Fact is, that kind of thing doesn't happen over here in the evil decadent "Canada & US". If it does it's almost always if not always muslims doing it who have emigrated here. I can't recall a single news story of it happening here in fact, but I do remember an episode of Law & Order that dealt with it, something about muslims doing forced clit-ectomies on their daughters (and trying to justify it).

Explain honor killings to me if you can.

I'm not a Muslim, first of all, so it doesn't put any shame on my way of life or any belief system I have. In fact the only thing that is putting any shame on a belief system that I have is people like you are still around, racist anti-Semites and what's worse you're from Canada.

You really need to get racism out of you and realize that Arab women aren't only free to do what they want, but they value themselves way more than American women and are viewed with respect in the Middle East unlike in America where they just have to be pretty, ditsy, and down to fuck. The whole notion that Muslim women are oppressed and can't leave their marriages is just racism, the same racism that people had when they thought black people were savages. Ew, you disgust me.

If you're trying to say that because a tiny fraction of the population does these honor killings things that it somehow makes all Muslims monsters? I guarantee you more Canadian/American women kill their infant babies each year than there is honor killings. Does that mean the Americans hate babies and kill babies? Of course not, it means unfortunately some people are misled into believing what they are doing is right when it isn't and that is unfortunate. But to generalize a billion people on the actions of a few hundred is just stupid, don't you agree?

That's right. Mexico. Canada. You keep saying this. Someday you will wake up from your NAFTA nightmare! :1orglaugh

Yes. Because Mohammed and his offspring all needed oil to conquer North Africa, Middle East, Spain, Balkans.. etc.

social media and the internet will eventually make the world almost entirely democratic. The internet not only shows the rest of the world first hand what freedom is like living in a democratic society but it allows people to organize easily and plan protests undetected to the last minute.

The younger people / college students want freedom and not dictatorships. The generations and times are changing in these countries and just like falling dominoes, when one country falls it gives confidence to the people in the other countries that they can do it to.

What has started recently and will be played out over the next couple years will be looked back on as equivalent to the berlin wall falling and the end of the cold war was to communism.

ive been fantasizing about sifting through post apocalyptic rubble ever since that y2k shit didnt happen.

i cant wait to see what happens.

We'll use bottle caps as currency, a la Fallout 3. :pimp

You got one thing right in all that... I am from Canada.

I'm niether anti-semitic nor racist in the least. Funny that simply because my views differ from yours on a wide range of issues your only amunition against me is to publicly accuse me of those things though. I find that very weak, but as I've said before this sort of skewed thinking comes as no surprise whatsoever coming from you.

Interesting too is the fact that you tend to throw an argument back on how you think it is in N. America instead of dealing with the actual argument presented, in this case all the information I posted regarding honor killings. I posted it because YOU said that in islamic nations women are not oppressed and are free (even at young ages like 12, 13 etc) to choose to marry whomever they want to marry. I showed via numerous links and sources that that is not quite entirely true. Instead of addressing it and maybe admitting that atrocities like this even exist you chose instead to level further absolutely twisted arguments involving N. American women's right to choice when it comes to abortion.

Not even close to the same thing as honor killings.

I knew before I typed my first responses to you in other threads from weeks past that you really weren't worth arguing with, but being I had nothing better to do with my time lately I chose to give it a go anyway. But the time has come to leave you to your complete and utter misinformed ignorance. It's really quite a shame that someone who is obviously as well-spoken as you developed such mindlessly twisted views of the world and how things are in it.

Good luck with it.

Sorry that you don't understand the concept of isolated situations. Yes it does happen - but it happens just as often as it does in the United States.

Are women oppressed in the United States?

You want me to show you 4 links of men in the United States being serial killers? Does that mean all US men are serial killers?

You have a serious problem with racism and anti-Semitism, your hate for Arabs and Muslims is disgusting and you need to learn to be tolerant of other people. Shame on you, you are a black mark on the country of Canada.

Sorry that in your mind everyone that doesn't live the same way is you is a monster rapist that lives in oppression. Sad that you can't see the world outside of your sheltered life.

It's not isolated, it's common, happens daily, is part of the religion and even laws. It doesn't happen near like this in any first world Country, period, end of story....

No, women are not oppressed in the United States - and even the areas they might be, the point is that it progresses forward, not backwards.

Yep people kill people all over, but in America they aren't doing in masses under religion and law and it damn sure isn't accepted because of those factors either.

This isn't about racism or any bullshit you state, it's about you ignoring the fact that it happens. We know not everyone is shit stains, we know not everyone does this, we know in general people are good --- but what the focus is here, is you pretending it isn't common, isn't true, that it almost doesn't happen - which is bullshit, and easy to prove otherwise.

That makes you a shit stain... straight up.