New 3 foot rule for strip clubs in Michigan... - GoFuckYourself.com

Brad Mitchell · 01-18-2003, 09:02 AM

Unless this is over-ruled by our Secretary of State by March 1st, this ruling by the liquor comission in Michigan will make lap dances and liquor a thing of the past...

Text of Proposed Liquor Control Commission Regulations

R 436.1407 TEMPORARY ENTERTAINMENT, DANCE, OR DANCE ENTERTAINMENT PERMITS; APPROVAL.

Rule 7. (1) The commission may issue up to 12 daily temporary dance, entertainment, or dance entertainment permits to a licensee each calendar year upon written request of the licensee and approval of the chief law enforcement officer who has jurisdiction.

(2) THE COMMISSION MAY ISSUE UP TO 12 DAILY TEMPORARY TOPLESS ACTIVITY PERMITS TO A LICENSEE EACH CALENDAR YEAR UPON WRITTEN REQUEST OF THE LICENSEE, APPROVAL OF THE CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHO HAS JURISDICTION, AND THE APPROVAL OF THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE JURISDICTION WITHIN WHICH THE PREMISES ARE LOCATED.

R 436.1410 Entertainers or employees engaged in topless activity.

RULE 10. AN ON-PREMISES LICENSEE SHALL NOT ALLOW TOPLESS ACTIVITY, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 916(11)(B) OF 1998 P.A. 58, MCL 436.1916(11)(B), ON THE LICENSED PREMISES UNLESS ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET:

(A) THE LICENSEE HAS A VALID PERMIT ISSUED BY THE COMMISSION WHICH ALLOWS TOPLESS ACTIVITY.

(B) THE PERSON PERFORMING ANY TOPLESS ACTIVITY IS ON A STAGE OR PLATFORM NOT LESS THAN 18 INCHES ABOVE THE IMMEDIATE FLOOR LEVEL AND IS REMOVED NOT LESS THAN 3 FEET FROM THE NEAREST PATRON AT ALL TIMES DURING A PERFORMANCE.

(C) A PERSON PERFORMING ANY TOPLESS ACTIVITY IS NOT PERMITTED TO MAKE PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH A PATRON AND A PATRON IS NOT PERMITTED TO MAKE PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH THE PERSON PERFORMING ANY TOPLESS ACTIVITY DURING THE TOPLESS ACTIVITY.

*****

The definition of "topless activity" referred to is as follows:

436.1916 Entertainment, dance, or topless activity permits; issuance; prohibited activity; exceptions; permits issued under administrative rule; fees; definitions.
Sec. 916.
. . .
(11) As used in this section:

. . .

(b) ?Topless activity? means activity that includes, but is not limited to, entertainment or work-related activity performed by any of the following persons on the licensed premises in which the female breast area, including the nipple, or more than 1/2 of the area of the breast, is directly exposed or exposed by means of see-through clothing or a body stocking:

(i) A licensee.

(ii) An employee, agent, or contractor of the licensee.

(iii) A person acting under the control of or with the permission of the licensee."

EscortBiz · 01-18-2003, 09:05 AM

Only one thing will fix these rule makers and that is EXPOSING them, If the guys running those joints in MI know what they are doing they should be able to expose them for what they really are, does not take much.

mrbling · 01-18-2003, 09:19 AM

big fucking woop
I already have a 7 foot rule at my strip club

3 foot? fucking pansies

01-18-2003, 09:19 AM

I suspect the strip clubs in Windsor will like to see that pass. Their business will be booming.

They should start marketing in Michigan:

"Come to Canada, you can drink at 19, still get a decent and totally nude dance from a stripper, and you won't go to jail if you get caught with weed."

BV · 01-18-2003, 09:22 AM

This is a good thing for content guys. These chicks will now make less money and need to supliment their income by shooting porn.

PerfectionGirls · 01-18-2003, 09:54 AM

Yeah Brad... I know for or five girls freaking out right now about. It would be a shame to see this happen here in Michigan, but as one said. Lots of great girls that will shoot content now. lol

Michigan has smoe of the best clubs in the country. The clubs we visited in Vegas pale in comparison. Even Saphhires and Jaguars dont compare to places like the Flight Club, Landng Strip and a few others in in the Metro Detroit area. Great, great "mileage" at all these clubs. The girls for the most part are BEAUTIFUL.

It would be sad to see them go, but you will also see a MEGA site coming from Perfection GIrls

www.formerdancers.com lol

Truly I hope it does get over turned. These clubs employee alot of people and I wold hate to see them lose their jobs.

pr0 · 01-18-2003, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick
I suspect the strip clubs in Windsor will like to see that pass. Their business will be booming.

They should start marketing in Michigan:

"Come to Canada, you can drink at 19, still get a decent and totally nude dance from a stripper, and you won't go to jail if you get caught with weed."

i'm moving to canada once i got the loot

Brad Mitchell · 01-18-2003, 10:43 AM

regarding Canada...

Despite the fact that outcall prostitution is legal in Canada, lap dances are not legal.

surprise!

Brad

netstarz · 01-18-2003, 10:44 AM

Just one more reason for us to get the fuck out of Michigan.

Marcus · 01-18-2003, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
regarding Canada...

Despite the fact that outcall prostitution is legal in Canada, lap dances are not legal.

surprise!

Brad

I've gotten lap dances in Montreal.
There are a few strip bars with huge lap dance areas in back, theyre not hidden at all.

playa · 01-18-2003, 10:54 AM

the best strip clubs are from the the dirty south,

clutch mike · 01-18-2003, 10:55 AM

ALL I GOT TO SAY IS :

ANYONE NEED CONTENT ???????????????????????

Alky · 01-18-2003, 10:59 AM

sucks...

directfiesta · 01-18-2003, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
regarding Canada...

Despite the fact that outcall prostitution is legal in Canada, lap dances are not legal.

surprise!

Brad

are in Quebec. They are called "$10.00 dance" and that's canadian so in the US it would be a $US 6.00 ....
The courts ruled that It was legal....

Lap dance + marijuana....

HeadPimp · 01-18-2003, 11:23 AM

Yeah... we have the 3' rule in Washington too.. Bites ass, but I am working on getting it modified...

PerfectionGirls · 01-18-2003, 11:28 AM

Hey Clutch! LOL I know a few of the girls you shot! lol

This Girl

She got much stuff out there? I might want to talk to you about added her to a larger site we are doing. Think we can get some "custom stuff"?

cyberpunk · 01-18-2003, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
regarding Canada...

Despite the fact that outcall prostitution is legal in Canada, lap dances are not legal.

surprise!

Brad

Mmmm.... They don;t seem to have issue with ithere in Toronto, adn montreal they passed a law where you can now legally touch the dancers

Go CANADA!

PerfectionGirls · 01-18-2003, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Mmmm.... They don;t seem to have issue with ithere in Toronto, adn montreal they passed a law where you can now legally touch the dancers

It's a Windsor thing.

directfiesta · 01-18-2003, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cyberpunk

montreal they passed a law where you can now legally touch the dancers

Go CANADA!

Working now on getting to fuck them...lol

CrazyNakedChick · 01-18-2003, 11:57 AM

man, the strip club rules just keep getting worse and worse here. i remember back in the day when they used to be able to take their panties off.....

all the best bars are in the metro detroit area, and they are going to lose a lot more business (and dancers) to the clubs just over the bridge.

anyone want to buy my 747 stock before it drops out? hehehe.

4shadow · 01-18-2003, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Hey Clutch! LOL I know a few of the girls you shot! lol

This Girl

She got much stuff out there? I might want to talk to you about added her to a larger site we are doing. Think we can get some "custom stuff"?

Who is this girl? She looks familiar?

p1mpdogg · 01-18-2003, 12:07 PM

see sig.

PerfectionGirls · 01-18-2003, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Who is this girl? She looks familiar?

I met her through a friend of mine about six months ago. I know she has done some amateur contest at the Flight Club. She's a cutie, but I never talked to her about shooting. I would have a spot for her in one of our bigger teen sites that is coming out in the spring. Provided I can get exclusive. lol

4shadow · 01-18-2003, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls

I met her through a friend of mine about six months ago. I know she has done some amateur contest at the Flight Club. She's a cutie, but I never talked to her about shooting. I would have a spot for her in one of our bigger teen sites that is coming out in the spring. Provided I can get exclusive. lol

I knew she reminded me of someone....she looks similar to one of your girls - her name escapes me at the moment though.

amadman · 01-18-2003, 12:41 PM

I havent been to a tit flop in a few years but that still bites.

01-18-2003, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
regarding Canada...

Despite the fact that outcall prostitution is legal in Canada, lap dances are not legal.

surprise!

Brad

Lap dances are not legal, but you don't have to be 3 feet away from them. They crawl all over you and stick their snatch in your face. Most of them have couches you sit on then they straddle your lap, but you're not suppose to rub crotches with them though.

clutch mike · 01-18-2003, 02:02 PM

Perfection,

shoot me an e-mail

[email protected]

Chong · 01-18-2003, 02:06 PM

nooo, not in michigan! i'm just barely old enough to get into those fuckers! i havent got to enjoy them enough yet

lagwagon · 01-18-2003, 03:22 PM

well that sucks, glad i dont live out there... hehe

directfiesta · 01-18-2003, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by evildick

Lap dances are not legal, but you don't have to be 3 feet away from them.

Come to the city...leave the farm!

Downtown Montreal, Ste-Catherine street ( main shopping street) you have lap dances ( full contact: you grab, you touch and if the $$$ ....)

I don't care about the rest of this ice cold country, but here it ois LEGAL!

Brad Mitchell · 01-18-2003, 04:33 PM

Ok I mis-spoke by accident.

Lap dances are not legal in Windsor, Ontario... the town bordering Detroit across the river. Everywhere else I have been is plenty friendly.

Brad

01-18-2003, 09:02 AM	#1
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	New 3 foot rule for strip clubs in Michigan... Unless this is over-ruled by our Secretary of State by March 1st, this ruling by the liquor comission in Michigan will make lap dances and liquor a thing of the past... Text of Proposed Liquor Control Commission Regulations R 436.1407 TEMPORARY ENTERTAINMENT, DANCE, OR DANCE ENTERTAINMENT PERMITS; APPROVAL. Rule 7. (1) The commission may issue up to 12 daily temporary dance, entertainment, or dance entertainment permits to a licensee each calendar year upon written request of the licensee and approval of the chief law enforcement officer who has jurisdiction. (2) THE COMMISSION MAY ISSUE UP TO 12 DAILY TEMPORARY TOPLESS ACTIVITY PERMITS TO A LICENSEE EACH CALENDAR YEAR UPON WRITTEN REQUEST OF THE LICENSEE, APPROVAL OF THE CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER WHO HAS JURISDICTION, AND THE APPROVAL OF THE LOCAL LEGISLATIVE BODY OF THE JURISDICTION WITHIN WHICH THE PREMISES ARE LOCATED. R 436.1410 Entertainers or employees engaged in topless activity. RULE 10. AN ON-PREMISES LICENSEE SHALL NOT ALLOW TOPLESS ACTIVITY, AS DEFINED IN SECTION 916(11)(B) OF 1998 P.A. 58, MCL 436.1916(11)(B), ON THE LICENSED PREMISES UNLESS ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET: (A) THE LICENSEE HAS A VALID PERMIT ISSUED BY THE COMMISSION WHICH ALLOWS TOPLESS ACTIVITY. (B) THE PERSON PERFORMING ANY TOPLESS ACTIVITY IS ON A STAGE OR PLATFORM NOT LESS THAN 18 INCHES ABOVE THE IMMEDIATE FLOOR LEVEL AND IS REMOVED NOT LESS THAN 3 FEET FROM THE NEAREST PATRON AT ALL TIMES DURING A PERFORMANCE. (C) A PERSON PERFORMING ANY TOPLESS ACTIVITY IS NOT PERMITTED TO MAKE PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH A PATRON AND A PATRON IS NOT PERMITTED TO MAKE PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH THE PERSON PERFORMING ANY TOPLESS ACTIVITY DURING THE TOPLESS ACTIVITY. ***** The definition of "topless activity" referred to is as follows: 436.1916 Entertainment, dance, or topless activity permits; issuance; prohibited activity; exceptions; permits issued under administrative rule; fees; definitions. Sec. 916. . . . (11) As used in this section: . . . (b) ?Topless activity? means activity that includes, but is not limited to, entertainment or work-related activity performed by any of the following persons on the licensed premises in which the female breast area, including the nipple, or more than 1/2 of the area of the breast, is directly exposed or exposed by means of see-through clothing or a body stocking: (i) A licensee. (ii) An employee, agent, or contractor of the licensee. (iii) A person acting under the control of or with the permission of the licensee." __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

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mrbling Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 365	big fucking woop I already have a 7 foot rule at my strip club 3 foot? fucking pansies __________________ millionare by 18 , beat that hOES

01-18-2003, 09:54 AM	#6
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	Yeah Brad... I know for or five girls freaking out right now about. It would be a shame to see this happen here in Michigan, but as one said. Lots of great girls that will shoot content now. lol Michigan has smoe of the best clubs in the country. The clubs we visited in Vegas pale in comparison. Even Saphhires and Jaguars dont compare to places like the Flight Club, Landng Strip and a few others in in the Metro Detroit area. Great, great "mileage" at all these clubs. The girls for the most part are BEAUTIFUL. It would be sad to see them go, but you will also see a MEGA site coming from Perfection GIrls www.formerdancers.com lol Truly I hope it does get over turned. These clubs employee alot of people and I wold hate to see them lose their jobs. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	regarding Canada... Despite the fact that outcall prostitution is legal in Canada, lap dances are not legal. surprise! Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

01-18-2003, 09:19 AM	#4
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	I suspect the strip clubs in Windsor will like to see that pass. Their business will be booming. They should start marketing in Michigan: "Come to Canada, you can drink at 19, still get a decent and totally nude dance from a stripper, and you won't go to jail if you get caught with weed."

01-18-2003, 09:22 AM	#5
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01-18-2003, 10:44 AM	#9
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01-18-2003, 10:54 AM	#11
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	the best strip clubs are from the the dirty south,

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01-18-2003, 11:23 AM	#15
HeadPimp Bad Mo-Fo Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,772	Yeah... we have the 3' rule in Washington too.. Bites ass, but I am working on getting it modified...

01-18-2003, 11:28 AM	#16
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	Hey Clutch! LOL I know a few of the girls you shot! lol This Girl She got much stuff out there? I might want to talk to you about added her to a larger site we are doing. Think we can get some "custom stuff"? __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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CrazyNakedChick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Infidelville Posts: 1,902	man, the strip club rules just keep getting worse and worse here. i remember back in the day when they used to be able to take their panties off..... all the best bars are in the metro detroit area, and they are going to lose a lot more business (and dancers) to the clubs just over the bridge. anyone want to buy my 747 stock before it drops out? hehehe.

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01-18-2003, 04:33 PM	#31
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,812	Ok I mis-spoke by accident. Lap dances are not legal in Windsor, Ontario... the town bordering Detroit across the river. Everywhere else I have been is plenty friendly. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999