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lazycash

02-05-2011 01:19 AM

The simple fact that you failed to update your payment details for almost 3 years is reason enough for them not to pay you, what an idiot. Seems funny that you were that careless with your earnings to not even realize the sales you were owed for almost three years, yet now you whine and whine as if you are completely broke.

Unmerciful

02-05-2011 01:21 AM

xenigo u stupid?
keyword -Tube-

DiamonD75

02-05-2011 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoddy (Post 17894930)

there were embeds and hosted videos on his site, read the entire post.

I never hosted his videos (flv, mpg or other) on my sites.. It was embedded video with xvideos logo.. And i removed url to galleries in 1 hour.. You understand it?
All money was earn from pictures sites and owner know it.. But he close my account and i can't show any signup urls now.. Would not be surprised if he has erased all statistics..

Denny

02-05-2011 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895101)

embedded or not... they were a part of your site.

DiamonD75

02-05-2011 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17894999)

Man.. I forget add that sponsor to my statsremote.. I working with more than 200 sponsors.. After epass died i checked all sponsors and filled payment info..
$2400 for 2-3 years is about $100 per month.. That is less than 1% of my profit.. I simple not notice it..

3xmedia

02-05-2011 03:52 AM

there are many sites out there embedding stuff from tubes with stolen content. Wish all these people get their aff. accounts closed. Probably many sponsors don't care :Oh crap :warning

3xmedia

02-05-2011 04:00 AM

there is no difference positng rapidshare links to download fulltime videos or embedding them from illegal tubes.

DiamonD75

02-05-2011 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zdeneczek (Post 17895113)

there are many sites out there embedding stuff from tubes with stolen content. Wish all these people get their aff. accounts closed. Probably many sponsors don't care :Oh crap :warning

It's time to close all his accounts and collect all the money.. :2 cents::thumbsup

DiamonD75

02-05-2011 04:07 AM

Ohh.. Today i found Google link to:
http://pornolab.net/forum/search.php?nm=grooby
Please ban Google..They use illegal content.. LOL..

Denny

02-05-2011 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895129)

Ohh.. Today i found Google link to:
http://pornolab.net/forum/search.php?nm=grooby
Please ban Google..They use illegal content.. LOL..

so ban Google if you can :1orglaugh:pimp

dstraffic

02-05-2011 05:18 AM

PLEASE EXPLAIN ME!!!!
If Grooby wants to protect his content, why hi didn't delete it from xvideos??????

WHY?????

i think he didn't do it, for using this reason to close webmaster accounts and steal their money. He even can post this videos to xvideos for this.

DWB	02-05-2011 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17894626)

As result:
groobybucks.com receive traffic from my sites since 2008 year. Today account was blocked because they found site with emdedded video from xvideos.. I delete galleries with his emdebbed content and lost $2400..

Just because you didn't host the video doesn't mean you are not guilty. You embedded it.

Take it up with Xvideos, I'm sure they will pay you the $2400.

Or, consider it a $2400 class on why to not embed videos from other sites. :2 cents:

Either way, that mistake just cost you $2400. Lets see if you make the same mistake twice. Something tells me you will.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstraffic (Post 17895171)

That is a VERY good question.

Are the videos still on Xvideos? Link to them if they are. Did they only DMCA you and not Xvideos?

signupdamnit

02-05-2011 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895107)

$2400 for 2-3 years is about $100 per month.. That is less than 1% of my profit.. I simple not notice it..

Then this shouldn't hurt you too much. Consider it a lesson and think about whether you will embed videos from such people in the future. Provided they themselves aren't uploading full length content to xvideos while at the same time damning you for embedding it, this honestly makes me more apt to promote them than before.

Denny

02-05-2011 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstraffic (Post 17895171)

yep, they should primary DMCA xvideos since they host these stolen videos.

signupdamnit

02-05-2011 05:53 AM

Btw Groobybucks would you consider using the main portion of his share of revenue to do sometheng like skin the board to say "FUCK PIRACY" ? :)

DWB	02-05-2011 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17895213)

Btw Groobybucks would you consider using the main portion of his share of revenue to do sometheng like skin the board to say "FUCK PIRACY" ? :)

Would you be willing to chip in the other 18k? :helpme

signupdamnit

02-05-2011 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17895223)

Would you be willing to chip in the other 18k? :helpme

Shit, you're kidding? 20k to skin GFY? Damn.

DWB	02-05-2011 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17895234)

Shit, you're kidding? 20k to skin GFY? Damn.

Don't know about these days, but it used to be something like that.

brassmonkey

02-05-2011 06:16 AM

im not reading the entire post :) ok you say he was hosting full movies you say.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoddy (Post 17894930)

there were embeds and hosted videos on his site, read the entire post.

and who starts to complain about getting paid 3 years later? many if I wasnt getting paid in 2008 I probably start a stink at that time... it still baffles me how u think u can make legit sales by giving a horny surfer full movies or links to videos with full movies..... the illegal tube sites have terrible ratios for shemale pornsites they make their money by offering
1. Cam Sales
2. Dating Sites
3. Other stupid ads like making your dick bigger
4. Visa scams where u join the site for a buck and they cross sale the shit out of you.

Any shemale sponsor sales are just a bonus to them, they get closed out of one they go join another.

so lets see what you are doing
1. You dont complain about not getting paid for 3 years
2. You trade with shit circle jerk sites that link to illegal tubes
3. You Embed full movies from illegal tubes and say its ok cause they not yours and you took them off after you got caught... so sorry
4. You hosted videos of your own either stolen from grooby member area that you did, or you took it from some other illegal site and passed it off as your own
5. You complain like a bitch that you have legal sites so pay me.... that is like saying you work a legit job at a bank but you got caught robbing another, but you still believe you should get your salary at your first bank

maybe i don't know the whole story but got u caught... i am sure if you were an honest affiliate and someone slips a video up there that didnt get notice grooby would have given you a warning or talked to you, but your site is a freaking mess of crap...

Grooby can send you the bill of all the production costs, model costs and man hours to work on the videos you took and then you pay him that cost and he might send you the 2400 dollars but i have a feeling you got a deal

u-Bob

02-05-2011 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17894659)

it said the man with tube submitter signature..
just find xvideos tubesitessubmitter.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/172.jpg
LOL man.. LOL!

I wasn't referring to your situation. I was referring to the fact that groobybucks lets new affiliates do a little dance if they want to sign up and requires them to explain 'their strategies'.... the fact that unlike other programs that will do a little background check to make sure the affiliate is actually part of the industry and not a scammer, groobybucks seems to go a lot further an demand what imo comes down to a free seo consult....

reread the posts before you LOL

woj	02-05-2011 08:33 AM

100 blocked accounts...

DiamonD75

02-05-2011 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895274)

Sorry man i don't understand your position first time and missed your first posts.. Sorry.
Btw i am not new affiliate.. I worked with grooby since 2008 year.. And all signups was from my pictures sites.. That cjtube with emdedded videos not deal with groody..

http://groobybucks.com/affiliate_agreement.html
They are corrected their rules i think because "Last Modified: 3nd February 2011."
Old version here: http://web.archive.org/web/200804300...agreement.html
Just show me what I'm broke with regards to my grooby aff account..
If Grooby think that i stolen 10 old videos (7-9 min each) i can pay.. but they can't find any videos hosted on MY sites and never find because i don't hosted it.. Each movie costs about $50-$100.. Not more.. I can pay after they open my account and paid me all amount.. After they can close my account.. NP :)

seanchai

02-05-2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895274)

I was referring to the fact that groobybucks lets new affiliates do a little dance if they want to sign up and requires them to explain 'their strategies'.... groobybucks seems to go a lot further an demand what imo comes down to a free seo consult....

If it's apparant where your traffic is from then we don't "demand" anything else. If you are hiding where your traffic is coming from then, yes we're going to ask further questions as it's probably coming from somewhere untoward or from somewhere we don't want to do business with.
As we've both stated, we're happy not to do business with each other, so no argument there, you can take your tranny traffic to some other program less interested in the overall business and we'll continue to make sales with more legitimate or transparent affiliates.

seanchai

02-05-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895397)

I believe there was a 2010 agreement, after the 2007 - but even based on the 2007 one:

1. No defamatory, obscene, child pornographic, harassing, illegal, or otherwise objectionable content may appear the Affiliate?s site;

3. Affiliate shall have no content on the Affiliate?s Site that promotes or facilitates illegal activity, or violates the rights of others such as copyright, trademark, other intellectual property infringement, right to privacy, right to publicity, or other similar rights;

5. Our Affiliates are strictly forbidden to engage in any fraudulent, deceptive or unfair transactions or trade practices. No commissions will be paid on violation transactions, and may be withheld if such conduct is suspected.

12. Affiliate may not attempt to cheat, defraud, or mislead the Publisher, in any way

14. Affiliate may not use the Publisher?s Material or images to promote other sites or businesses.

B. Suspected violation of a portion of the Acceptable Conduct Policy may result in termination from the Program and forfeiture of any past or future commissions or payments, whether earned or unearned. If, in Our sole opinion, You have violated any of the acceptable conduct policy provisions, You will forfeit all funds otherwise due,

Enough? Read and move on.

DiamonD75

02-05-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895445)

so no argument there

Only one argument - money... whether the sum of $ 20 instead of $2400 you did not know the reason for closing an account.

PS. Answer please on my email about your full company name, address and lawyer contacks..

seanchai

02-05-2011 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895458)

We'd close an account for breaking the rules as blatantly and with such disregard for other people's property rights regardless of the money. The fact is, in this case, you wouldn't have even been aware that you had money in there until WE contact YOU. You left it there for three years.

You can send any legal notifications to my company address which is on any of the websites and that will be forwarded to our lawyers, if deemed necessary.

brassmonkey

02-05-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895458)

yep i think there has to be a legal reason. not just say your wrong and just take the money. would be nice. :2 cents: :)

seanchai

02-05-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17895466)

yep i think there has to be a legal reason. not just say your wrong and just take the money. would be nice. :2 cents: :)

Did you even bother to check the above excerpts from the Affiliate Agreement?

DiamonD75

02-05-2011 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895464)

You left it there for three years.

That is my problem.. I can set payout limit = $3000 and it should not concern you..
That is MY money not yours.. You stolen it.
You can not pay me but open my account. I want to do some screenshots with url of my sites from witch was signups and with owed amount for my lawyer.

brassmonkey

02-05-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895469)

Did you even bother to check the above excerpts from the Affiliate Agreement?

i did, but is that legal to just say he's in violation and not pay? does he have the right to view the proof you have for not paying? not board post documented proof. :2 cents: im not taking sides im just sayin :)

seanchai

02-05-2011 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895480)

You were banned. You forfeited any outstanding payments when you made the choice to promote with stolen content. You asked in an earlier post, why you'd broken the rules - I showed you examples of the rules you'd broken on the 2007 affiliate agreement you'd agreed to.
We do not give access to closed accounts. Talk to you lawyer by all means but show him the affiliate agreement, show him screen caps of exactly what our problem was with blackshemalevideo.com and then decide whether you want to throw more money away.

I think the amount of people in this post who have responded can clearly see, that you've been in the wrong on this, despite your attempts to cloud the issue. I only hope that the other programs that read this, will also cancel your accounts.

DWB	02-05-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17895390)

100 blocked accounts...

WOJ is back.

u-Bob

02-05-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895445)

If it's apparant where your traffic is from then we don't "demand" anything else.

well, since you won't let anyone send you traffic without first explaining strategies,... it will be a bit hard for you to see where it's coming from :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895445)

As we've both stated, we're happy not to do business with each other, so no argument there, you can take your tranny traffic to some other program less interested in the overall business and we'll continue to make sales with more legitimate or transparent affiliates.

care to apologize?

seanchai

02-05-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895585)

well, since you won't let anyone send you traffic without first explaining strategies,... it will be a bit hard for you to see where it's coming from :1orglaugh

care to apologize?

We don't need your traffic Bob. Don't need the hassle - don't need your traffic but sincerely thanks for trying to signup with us. Most affiliates are happy to show their sites and don't have to hide where it comes from.

Apologize for what?

u-Bob

02-05-2011 10:38 AM

the "more legitimate" comment?

seanchai

02-05-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895591)

the "more legitimate" comment?

Perhaps you should read better, instead of cherrypicking.
The quote was "more legitimate OR transparant affiliates".
You can choose which one you think I was referring to you.

Care to apologize?

nikki99

02-05-2011 10:43 AM

wow long thread

say NO to thieves :thumbsup

brassmonkey

02-05-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17895601)

wow long thread

say NO to thieves :thumbsup

a gay old time. :)

Mr. Cool Ice

02-05-2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895591)

the "more legitimate" comment?

Dont worry about these people. I pulled links a long time ago because the sites converted like garbage and they are not friendly to deal with. Everything on the sites look very dated anyway. Send your traffic to PimpRoll who has superior images and videos to these people and you will make more money. You dont have to beg PimpRoll to take your sales.

seanchai

02-05-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17895612)

Hahahahaha brilliant.

We have awesome ratios. Better retention than any other tranny sites AND we're the friendliest group of people to meet and work with.
Come to the Tranny Awards - tonight, in the Valley and meet us.

What a clown.

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