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woj 02-05-2011 08:33 AM

100 blocked accounts...

DiamonD75 02-05-2011 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895274)
I wasn't referring to your situation. I was referring to the fact that groobybucks lets new affiliates do a little dance if they want to sign up and requires them to explain 'their strategies'.... the fact that unlike other programs that will do a little background check to make sure the affiliate is actually part of the industry and not a scammer, groobybucks seems to go a lot further an demand what imo comes down to a free seo consult....

reread the posts before you LOL

Sorry man i don't understand your position first time and missed your first posts.. Sorry.
Btw i am not new affiliate.. I worked with grooby since 2008 year.. And all signups was from my pictures sites.. That cjtube with emdedded videos not deal with groody..

http://groobybucks.com/affiliate_agreement.html
They are corrected their rules i think because "Last Modified: 3nd February 2011."
Old version here: http://web.archive.org/web/200804300...agreement.html
Just show me what I'm broke with regards to my grooby aff account..
If Grooby think that i stolen 10 old videos (7-9 min each) i can pay.. but they can't find any videos hosted on MY sites and never find because i don't hosted it.. Each movie costs about $50-$100.. Not more.. I can pay after they open my account and paid me all amount.. After they can close my account.. NP :)

seanchai 02-05-2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895274)
I was referring to the fact that groobybucks lets new affiliates do a little dance if they want to sign up and requires them to explain 'their strategies'.... groobybucks seems to go a lot further an demand what imo comes down to a free seo consult....

If it's apparant where your traffic is from then we don't "demand" anything else. If you are hiding where your traffic is coming from then, yes we're going to ask further questions as it's probably coming from somewhere untoward or from somewhere we don't want to do business with.
As we've both stated, we're happy not to do business with each other, so no argument there, you can take your tranny traffic to some other program less interested in the overall business and we'll continue to make sales with more legitimate or transparent affiliates.

seanchai 02-05-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895397)
Sorry man i don't understand your position first time and missed your first posts.. Sorry.
Btw i am not new affiliate.. I worked with grooby since 2008 year.. And all signups was from my pictures sites.. That cjtube with emdedded videos not deal with groody..

http://groobybucks.com/affiliate_agreement.html
They are corrected their rules i think because "Last Modified: 3nd February 2011."
Old version here: http://web.archive.org/web/200804300...agreement.html
Just show me what I'm broke with regards to my grooby aff account..
If Grooby think that i stolen 10 old videos (7-9 min each) i can pay.. but they can't find any videos hosted on MY sites and never find because i don't hosted it.. Each movie costs about $50-$100.. Not more.. I can pay after they open my account and paid me all amount.. After they can close my account.. NP :)

I believe there was a 2010 agreement, after the 2007 - but even based on the 2007 one:

1. No defamatory, obscene, child pornographic, harassing, illegal, or otherwise objectionable content may appear the Affiliate?s site;

3. Affiliate shall have no content on the Affiliate?s Site that promotes or facilitates illegal activity, or violates the rights of others such as copyright, trademark, other intellectual property infringement, right to privacy, right to publicity, or other similar rights;

5. Our Affiliates are strictly forbidden to engage in any fraudulent, deceptive or unfair transactions or trade practices. No commissions will be paid on violation transactions, and may be withheld if such conduct is suspected.

12. Affiliate may not attempt to cheat, defraud, or mislead the Publisher, in any way

14. Affiliate may not use the Publisher?s Material or images to promote other sites or businesses.

B. Suspected violation of a portion of the Acceptable Conduct Policy may result in termination from the Program and forfeiture of any past or future commissions or payments, whether earned or unearned. If, in Our sole opinion, You have violated any of the acceptable conduct policy provisions, You will forfeit all funds otherwise due,


Enough? Read and move on.

DiamonD75 02-05-2011 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895445)
so no argument there

Only one argument - money... whether the sum of $ 20 instead of $2400 you did not know the reason for closing an account.

PS. Answer please on my email about your full company name, address and lawyer contacks..

seanchai 02-05-2011 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895458)
Only one argument - money... whether the sum of $ 20 instead of $2400 you did not know the reason for closing an account.

PS. Answer please on my email about your full company name, address and lawyer contacks..

We'd close an account for breaking the rules as blatantly and with such disregard for other people's property rights regardless of the money. The fact is, in this case, you wouldn't have even been aware that you had money in there until WE contact YOU. You left it there for three years.

You can send any legal notifications to my company address which is on any of the websites and that will be forwarded to our lawyers, if deemed necessary.

brassmonkey 02-05-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895458)
Only one argument - money... whether the sum of $ 20 instead of $2400 you did not know the reason for closing an account.

PS. Answer please on my email about your full company name, address and lawyer contacks..

yep i think there has to be a legal reason. not just say your wrong and just take the money. would be nice. :2 cents: :)

seanchai 02-05-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 17895466)
yep i think there has to be a legal reason. not just say your wrong and just take the money. would be nice. :2 cents: :)

Did you even bother to check the above excerpts from the Affiliate Agreement?

DiamonD75 02-05-2011 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895464)
You left it there for three years.

That is my problem.. I can set payout limit = $3000 and it should not concern you..
That is MY money not yours.. You stolen it.
You can not pay me but open my account. I want to do some screenshots with url of my sites from witch was signups and with owed amount for my lawyer.

brassmonkey 02-05-2011 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895469)
Did you even bother to check the above excerpts from the Affiliate Agreement?

i did, but is that legal to just say he's in violation and not pay? does he have the right to view the proof you have for not paying? not board post documented proof. :2 cents: im not taking sides im just sayin :)

seanchai 02-05-2011 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895480)
That is my problem.. I can set payout limit = $3000 and it should not concern you..
That is MY money not yours.. You stolen it.
You can not pay me but open my account. I want to do some screenshots with url of my sites from witch was signups and with owed amount for my lawyer.



You were banned. You forfeited any outstanding payments when you made the choice to promote with stolen content. You asked in an earlier post, why you'd broken the rules - I showed you examples of the rules you'd broken on the 2007 affiliate agreement you'd agreed to.
We do not give access to closed accounts. Talk to you lawyer by all means but show him the affiliate agreement, show him screen caps of exactly what our problem was with blackshemalevideo.com and then decide whether you want to throw more money away.

I think the amount of people in this post who have responded can clearly see, that you've been in the wrong on this, despite your attempts to cloud the issue. I only hope that the other programs that read this, will also cancel your accounts.

DWB 02-05-2011 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17895390)
100 blocked accounts...

WOJ is back.

u-Bob 02-05-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895445)
If it's apparant where your traffic is from then we don't "demand" anything else.

well, since you won't let anyone send you traffic without first explaining strategies,... it will be a bit hard for you to see where it's coming from :1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895445)
As we've both stated, we're happy not to do business with each other, so no argument there, you can take your tranny traffic to some other program less interested in the overall business and we'll continue to make sales with more legitimate or transparent affiliates.

care to apologize?

seanchai 02-05-2011 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895585)
well, since you won't let anyone send you traffic without first explaining strategies,... it will be a bit hard for you to see where it's coming from :1orglaugh


care to apologize?


We don't need your traffic Bob. Don't need the hassle - don't need your traffic but sincerely thanks for trying to signup with us. Most affiliates are happy to show their sites and don't have to hide where it comes from.

Apologize for what?

u-Bob 02-05-2011 10:38 AM

the "more legitimate" comment?

seanchai 02-05-2011 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895591)
the "more legitimate" comment?

Perhaps you should read better, instead of cherrypicking.
The quote was "more legitimate OR transparant affiliates".
You can choose which one you think I was referring to you.

Care to apologize?

nikki99 02-05-2011 10:43 AM

wow long thread

say NO to thieves :thumbsup

brassmonkey 02-05-2011 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17895601)
wow long thread

say NO to thieves :thumbsup

a gay old time. :)

Mr. Cool Ice 02-05-2011 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17895591)
the "more legitimate" comment?

Dont worry about these people. I pulled links a long time ago because the sites converted like garbage and they are not friendly to deal with. Everything on the sites look very dated anyway. Send your traffic to PimpRoll who has superior images and videos to these people and you will make more money. You dont have to beg PimpRoll to take your sales.

seanchai 02-05-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17895612)
Dont worry about these people. I pulled links a long time ago because the sites converted like garbage and they are not friendly to deal with. Everything on the sites look very dated anyway. Send your traffic to PimpRoll who has superior images and videos to these people and you will make more money. You dont have to beg PimpRoll to take your sales.

Hahahahaha brilliant.

We have awesome ratios. Better retention than any other tranny sites AND we're the friendliest group of people to meet and work with.
Come to the Tranny Awards - tonight, in the Valley and meet us.

What a clown.

selena 02-05-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17895612)
Dont worry about these people. I pulled links a long time ago because the sites converted like garbage and they are not friendly to deal with. Everything on the sites look very dated anyway. Send your traffic to PimpRoll who has superior images and videos to these people and you will make more money. You dont have to beg PimpRoll to take your sales.


This is a joke post, right? I promote them both, and this is not a knock against PR, because their content is good. However, with all due respect to PimpRoll, when it comes to the shemale niche they are not even in the same league as Grooby Bucks.

sojproductions 02-05-2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 17894999)
The simple fact that you failed to update your payment details for almost 3 years is reason enough for them not to pay you, what an idiot. Seems funny that you were that careless with your earnings to not even realize the sales you were owed for almost three years, yet now you whine and whine as if you are completely broke.

:2 cents:

Mr. Cool Ice 02-05-2011 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895621)
Hahahahaha brilliant.

We have awesome ratios. Better retention than any other tranny sites AND we're the friendliest group of people to meet and work with.
Come to the Tranny Awards - tonight, in the Valley and meet us.

What a clown.

The tranny awards. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Hate to miss that. :1orglaugh

Sell your company to Pimp Roll so people can make real money with it. Your sites look outdated. The same traffic I sent you quadrupled when I sent that same traffic to Pimp Roll. They have better sites and pay more. To be fair I did have a handful of long rebills with you. I think I still get an odd check here and there. But for overall money in my pocket you were pretty low on the list for tranny programs for me.

Have fun sucking dude dicks tonight at the tranny show. Sounds like a whole lot of phun.

Mr. Cool Ice 02-05-2011 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena (Post 17895649)
This is a joke post, right? I promote them both, and this is not a knock against PR, because their content is good. However, with all due respect to PimpRoll, when it comes to the shemale niche they are not even in the same league as Grooby Bucks.

Pimp Roll makes alot more money for me. Doesnt matter to me who has tranny shows and sucks dude dicks on the side. They have better images and videos too.

I can only think that if Grroby was so good that they woudlnt need 20 upsells in the members area and two pre checked cross sales on the join pages while giving their webmasters zero percent of any of it. Im sure they are the only company who does revshare only and has two checked cross sales and screws the webmasters on it. If you make more money with them that is cool but they didnt work for me and their new found desperation and screwing over webmasters is showing the real face of what is happening there.

brassmonkey 02-05-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17895652)
The tranny awards. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Hate to miss that. :1orglaugh

Have fun sucking dude dicks tonight at the tranny show. Sounds like a whole lot of phun.


hahahaha!! :1orglaugh

selena 02-05-2011 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17895662)
Pimp Roll makes alot more money for me. If you make more money with them that is cool but they didnt work for me.

Yeah, as always, I think this part comes down to a difference in traffic and perception of site value. In retrospect, I think I could have sounded harsh toward you, and that was not my intent. If you are banking great w/ PR, more power to you. :)

Miguel T 02-05-2011 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895498)
You were banned. You forfeited any outstanding payments when you made the choice to promote with stolen content. You asked in an earlier post, why you'd broken the rules - I showed you examples of the rules you'd broken on the 2007 affiliate agreement you'd agreed to.
We do not give access to closed accounts. Talk to you lawyer by all means but show him the affiliate agreement, show him screen caps of exactly what our problem was with blackshemalevideo.com and then decide whether you want to throw more money away.

I think the amount of people in this post who have responded can clearly see, that you've been in the wrong on this, despite your attempts to cloud the issue. I only hope that the other programs that read this, will also cancel your accounts.

Clap clap clap!!! Well said mate!
Keep these illegal guys away from GB so me and others like zoddy can make money!

directfiesta 02-05-2011 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895498)
You were banned. You forfeited any outstanding payments when you made the choice to promote with stolen content. You asked in an earlier post, why you'd broken the rules - I showed you examples of the rules you'd broken on the 2007 affiliate agreement you'd agreed to.
We do not give access to closed accounts. Talk to you lawyer by all means but show him the affiliate agreement, show him screen caps of exactly what our problem was with blackshemalevideo.com and then decide whether you want to throw more money away.

I think the amount of people in this post who have responded can clearly see, that you've been in the wrong on this, despite your attempts to cloud the issue. I only hope that the other programs that read this, will also cancel your accounts.

wow ... accuser, judge and executioner .... :warning

zoddy 02-05-2011 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 17895846)
wow ... accuser, judge and executioner .... :warning

And Lover!

nikki99 02-05-2011 04:33 PM

http://www.fuckingnikki.com/gfy/kayla1.jpg

http://www.fuckingnikki.com/gfy/kayla2.jpg

brassmonkey 02-05-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikki99 (Post 17896127)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

matuloo 02-05-2011 04:56 PM

I have a mainstream review site and still make like 2 or 300 bucks with grooby per month, so those saying how the sites suck, well I tend to disagree :) They sell on my site and I dont even have shemale traffic.

And as for canceling this account : you embed full length scenes, except to get flamed. EVERY FUCKING webmaster knows a full scene is pirated. EVERY webmaster knows promo clips are 30 or 60 seconds from the most part, some are 3 mins, some are 5 five. But never a full scene. If you need to embed, ok, embed promo clips AND LINK TO THE SITE IT IS FROM. Its as easy as that.

Thumbs up for you GB ! :)

TeenCat 02-05-2011 05:00 PM

man you are a fucking freak, i hope you will get that full grooby bucks contact to their lawyer so both lawyers will be in contact, you will end up owing them much more than those 2400 ... and reading your posts you may be some 20 year old kid playing his big game, man, gave up you are so young to get your life fucked like that ... :2 cents:

Supz 02-05-2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Ray (Post 17894602)
you should have answered the numerous DMCA's he said he sent you.

you thought you were bulletproof

actually. what he should have done is not put up stolen content. this is the point here. why should grooby care if he took down the videos. If he did it once. Im sure he would do it again. Once a thief, always a thief. People should not do business with thieves.

nikki99 02-05-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 17896182)
Once a thief, always a thief. People should not do business with thieves.

amen Allah give us revenge

itto 02-05-2011 05:27 PM

Even if you don't host stolen content on your servers, you can *still* be a content thief. For example: if you generate traffic by the means of embedding stolen vids (scraping tubes, for the purpose of generating "seo'd pages").. that would IMHO be an "illegal" method of generating traffic to whatever program you promote on these sites..

Socks 02-05-2011 05:40 PM

Is it true that on your revshare linkcodes you have two pre-checked cross sales?

How is that beneficial to an affiliate, at all?

DWB 02-05-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanchai (Post 17895621)
Better retention than any other tranny sites AND we're the friendliest group of people to meet and work with.

You're a big blow hard online, like most everyone else, but in person you're one of the nicest guys I've met in the business.

Not sure about those new xsales though. :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 02-05-2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17894627)
true, and to be honest, I'm glad you did...:1orglaugh

you're fucking up... several of us have worked with grooby for over 10 years and he's a s straight up as they get. you're pretty much looking like a total dumb ass :2 cents:

Grapesoda 02-05-2011 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Cool Ice (Post 17895652)
The tranny awards. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh Hate to miss that. :1orglaugh

Sell your company to Pimp Roll so people can make real money with it. Your sites look outdated. The same traffic I sent you quadrupled when I sent that same traffic to Pimp Roll. They have better sites and pay more. To be fair I did have a handful of long rebills with you. I think I still get an odd check here and there. But for overall money in my pocket you were pretty low on the list for tranny programs for me.

Have fun sucking dude dicks tonight at the tranny show. Sounds like a whole lot of phun.

are you donny long?????

Miguel T 02-05-2011 07:59 PM

Once a Thief, always a thief.

The Ghost 02-05-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiamonD75 (Post 17895397)
Sorry man i don't understand your position first time and missed your first posts.. Sorry.
Btw i am not new affiliate.. I worked with grooby since 2008 year.. And all signups was from my pictures sites.. That cjtube with emdedded videos not deal with groody..

http://groobybucks.com/affiliate_agreement.html
They are corrected their rules i think because "Last Modified: 3nd February 2011."
Old version here: http://web.archive.org/web/200804300...agreement.html
Just show me what I'm broke with regards to my grooby aff account..
If Grooby think that i stolen 10 old videos (7-9 min each) i can pay.. but they can't find any videos hosted on MY sites and never find because i don't hosted it.. Each movie costs about $50-$100.. Not more.. I can pay after they open my account and paid me all amount.. After they can close my account.. NP :)


How did you determine the cost at $50-$100 per movie?

zoddy 02-05-2011 11:06 PM

I saw vids that were bigger then 9 minutes embedded for sure and i know u had some on your site man.. stop denying it, and besides a old movie to a webmaster might be a brand new movie to a surfer... I get comments all the time on shit like "damn this girl is the hottest shemale anywhere I have never seen her before" but in reality that particular shemale has been dead for 5 years .... sometimes you got to think like a surfer... some old shit is brand new to them and any free full video shit just teaches them to begin their search for Free porn! If this site has full free videos then others must too!

DiamonD75 02-06-2011 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Ghost (Post 17896580)
How did you determine the cost at $50-$100 per movie?

Very bad quality, 7-9 min length.. Old content..

To seanchai:
Man you can never prove that i promote your program from blackshemalevideo because I did not do it (and you know it) :) All traffic you received from clean sites (and you know it very well).. May be you have a claim to blackshemalevideo? Ok i listen.. But this does not apply to earned money.. And you understand it :thumbsup.
You will not even be able to prove that this is my site, because to my account in grooby it has no relations. It's your illusion man..
Also blackshemalevideo was simple movie sites when i earned money with you. I can show old version on SmartThumbs.. http://web.archive.org/web/200806180...malevideo.com/ Try to prove that i stolen your content at the same time i earned money :pimp

You afraid to lose in the fight with tube sites and because you stolen money from me who promote you 3 years and earned money for you.. Nice business you have ;-)
Good luck looser :upsidedow

TeenCat 02-06-2011 02:30 AM

lol man you will not gave up, even if the whole industry says you are retard ... you have no respect to industry that is making you money, you deserve what you got ...

boneless 02-06-2011 05:28 AM

with all due respect to groobybucks, imho groobybucks made the mistake of going after an embedder, yet sites like xvideos keep stealing their content, so while they are trying to do good they actually do it the wrong way around, if you get the vids killed on xvideos you get a load of tubes sending to 404 pages instead of your full length stuff.

Also what about bing and google linking to those full length movies, do you dmca google and bing on a regular basis?

Mr. Cool Ice 02-06-2011 08:04 AM

Hideous.

I dont want to imagine how fucked up in the head a man has to be to think he is a woman. Can only guess most of them die young and alone. Probably drugs or suicide or aids. They need to spend money on proper counseling instead of balloon boobs. I feel sorry for these gays really.

Markul 02-06-2011 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 17894623)

In fact, this isn't a clever marketing ploy by GroobyBucks is it? :D

Haha I was sitting there wishing I had a lot of tranny traffic so I could sign up with Grooby :thumbsup

DiamonD75 02-06-2011 09:16 AM

Nobody thought that some sponsors upload his content to xvideos specially? For example Grooby.. Why? Because everyone can see Grooby logo. Because that is type-in traffic from big tube site.. because i see short content (7 min).
And more.. Why the sponsors buy ads space from tube and cjtube sites with xvideos content? Not afraid to get dirty?
Groobybucks - dinosaur and impotent in the fight with tube sites .. And stolen my money :)

buzzard 02-06-2011 09:29 AM

Am I missing something? Since when are affiliates required to police 3rd party content?
DiamonD75 should be paid.


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