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DateDoc 02-02-2011 06:12 PM

Sounds like you did a good job for them. Call all their competitors and tell them what you can do for them.

PS - fuck teaching the person taking your job how to do it.

TidalWave 02-02-2011 06:14 PM

doing what you do is a specialized skill, you can't be expected to "train" someone who doesn't even have grasp of basic internet skills.

they are idiots who think doing what you did was some easy shit, lol.

gabe100 02-02-2011 06:17 PM

Got your email. Here's some advice Danny. Don't burn bridges. Get help emotionally and learn to live a more stable life. You have 2 kids and a very bright mind. You're an awesome worker but you fuck things up when talk shit and blow things way out like you did with me a few months ago. You could been driving an HSE instead of washing them. They're nice. I totaled mine the day of the shoot below and got a new one the next day.

Still like brunettes?
http://netvideogirls.com/hdgalleries/dec11.html

Spudstr 02-02-2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 17887878)
you mean if I were to show her what I do?

I think it will take me 2 weeks just to show her how to watermark images in photoshop, I had to show the internet guy at another dealership just how to resize an image.. i thought this was common knowledge.

Ask them for 20k for you to teach her what to do.

Fucksakes 02-02-2011 06:20 PM

I am going to have a hard enough time walking in there with a smile and doing my job for the next 2 weeks, let alone show someone how to do my job. btw I didnt sign anything of what my job duties are.. my job was generate leads and I did whatever I wanted to do to make that happen, problem is they dont really know what I did.. only my manager.. they believe I built sites and the traffic and leads just come outta nowhere and all they need to do is post some pictures online now.

Cyber Fucker 02-02-2011 06:22 PM

More and more experienced and skilled people without work, really tough times.

Deej 02-02-2011 06:23 PM

Dude... do not teach her how to do that shit... save face at least... give them reason to keep you at very least... whatever comes of this - DO NOT TEACH HER WHAT YOU DO -

urbanpimp 02-02-2011 06:26 PM

If you are half as good as you say you are, then there should be no shortage of dealerships waiting to hire you.
Offer your services to multiple dealers that do not want or need a full time web guy.
Offer your services on an a la carte basis.
Alternatively, make a deal with a few different dealerships and start brokering cars yourself with the leads that you can and will generate.
Do NOT train your replacement under any circumstances.
Make sure that you have records of everything that you have done.
Should you actually go to some sort of arbitration or court, make sure that you have had all your activities recorded in a diary. Judges love that sort of thing.

Best of luck

Hessie 02-02-2011 06:32 PM

There are some good labor lawyers in Ottawa. Try to find one you feel comfortable with and seek legal advice first. Don't sabotage anything - it can come back to bite you really hard. Do take all the stats on your performance with you. Ask for a letter of reference and imply that without one, there will not be any cooperation from you.

As for training the replacement - if you can overly complicate it, go for it. Make sure this replacement knows just how time-consuming the task is and what she will need to learn (SEO optimization, Photoshop, Digital photography, HTML, working with an incomplete content manager - does she know how to program, etc. etc. - hopefully the server is running some flavor of linux) and how it will likely impact negatively on her ability to make more income doing what she does best (i.e., selling and giving head to the manager).

While all this is being negotiated, ping the other car dealers in the area (making sure that you stay away from any that are related to yours - e.g. if yours is a part of the Myers group, stay away from the others in the group).


Good luck.

Fucksakes 02-02-2011 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe100 (Post 17887933)
Got your email. Here's some advice Danny. Don't burn bridges. Get help emotionally and learn to live a more stable life. You have 2 kids and a very bright mind. You're an awesome worker but you fuck things up when talk shit and blow things way out like you did with me a few months ago. You could been driving an HSE instead of washing them. They're nice. I totaled mine the day of the shoot below and got a new one the next day.

Still like brunettes?
http://netvideogirls.com/hdgalleries/dec11.html

yeah I sure got a temper when I get stuck in a corner :(

btw I havn't washed cars after a month of working there.. a friend kept coming in and calling us washpigs lol.. I had to do it in order to take pictures and present the cars well online, but wasn't long till I had my own guy doing it.. http://www.lovingthecock.com/bryan.jpg - revenge is fun.

HSE eh.. come on I was driving 2011 RRS supercharged right off the trucks every other day.. I got a nice car now, thou if I won't if I don't have a new job soon.

famous 02-02-2011 06:37 PM

nope fuck 2 weeks. If she is clueless and you can afford it tell them you are done and just leave. That will be the biggest nut punch to them. I was told i was going to loose my job by a DM when i worked for a retail company. Dumb fuck told me i was gone in 2 weeks and it was me the DM and 2 other counter guys. He walked out the office i spun the lock to the safe walk out gave him my keys to the store and got in my car and left. I laughed. As i pulled out the counter was full of people DM could not make change cause he didnt know the safe combo and the delivery truck was pulling in. I had another job the same day for the competitor down the road and got more money. Win win. I was in commercial sales and within 3 months had all my mojor accounts at the new place of buisness.

MVT 02-02-2011 06:41 PM

meh.. nevermind :)

Cyber Fucker 02-02-2011 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 17887950)
Dude... do not teach her how to do that shit... save face at least... give them reason to keep you at very least... whatever comes of this - DO NOT TEACH HER WHAT YOU DO -

I fucking agree. :thumbsup

Fucksakes 02-02-2011 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessie (Post 17887959)
There are some good labor lawyers in Ottawa. Try to find one you feel comfortable with and seek legal advice first. Don't sabotage anything - it can come back to bite you really hard. Do take all the stats on your performance with you. Ask for a letter of reference and imply that without one, there will not be any cooperation from you.

As for training the replacement - if you can overly complicate it, go for it. Make sure this replacement knows just how time-consuming the task is and what she will need to learn (SEO optimization, Photoshop, Digital photography, HTML, working with an incomplete content manager - does she know how to program, etc. etc. - hopefully the server is running some flavor of linux) and how it will likely impact negatively on her ability to make more income doing what she does best (i.e., selling and giving head to the manager).

While all this is being negotiated, ping the other car dealers in the area (making sure that you stay away from any that are related to yours - e.g. if yours is a part of the Myers group, stay away from the others in the group).


Good luck.

are you in Ottawa? sounds like it :)

PornGreen 02-02-2011 06:45 PM

wait, she made $80k a year and you made more, is that correct? or they want to give her your salary plus her salary to make her happy?

i would not train her.

JD 02-02-2011 06:51 PM

mind shooting me an email with your contact info (aim/icq/msn/etc)? I want to talk to you about this in great detail :)

MetaMan 02-02-2011 06:53 PM

Phone the guy/girls house phone at real late nights, one night screaming at them, then the next night crying on the phone, do this for up to two weeks, then have a one day pause.

Then the day after the pause randomly show up at the dealership with a giant sign smearing them about being a homosexual.

Then when they call the cops on you punch yourself in the eye and tell the cops you were assaulted.

Sue them for a million dollars, retire.

Kiopa_Matt 02-02-2011 06:58 PM

Are you getting laid off or fired? If laid off, and assuming you have the 900+ hours logged, you qualify for EI. They can't just fire you for no reason though, as it's against the law. In order to fire you, they need to prove you were damaging the company, plus generally, give you notices and time to improve.

Fucksakes 02-02-2011 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGreen (Post 17887991)
wait, she made $80k a year and you made more, is that correct? or they want to give her your salary plus her salary to make her happy?

i would not train her.

she wants to make 20k more.. and had the oppertunity elsewhere.. she been at the dealership for 11 years and the #1 sales person.. so I can't blame her.. the manager offered her my job as extra duties assuming she could do it, she would stay and they wouldnt have to pay me 45-50k.

but I am certain she won't be able to handle the extra duties and its only a matter of time before she brushes it off to the side or say fuck that and leave.. I don't see her staying there much longer..

anyways I'm done venting..

Fucksakes 02-02-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiopa_Matt (Post 17888016)
Are you getting laid off or fired? If laid off, and assuming you have the 900+ hours logged, you qualify for EI. They can't just fire you for no reason though, as it's against the law. In order to fire you, they need to prove you were damaging the company, plus generally, give you notices and time to improve.

laid off I am assuming, which is the real point of this thread.. I just want to make sure I can get EI and buy myself some time to present myself to other dealers

CYF 02-02-2011 07:14 PM

If they want you to train her, I would tell them that your consulting fee is $100 per hour.

Agent 488 02-02-2011 07:15 PM

when's your last day?

make sure to get them to give you a lay off letter take that down to ei and it will be seamless.

gleem 02-02-2011 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17887782)
Never work for someone else.

Bingo... quit my last job in 1997 :thumbsup

Jdoughs 02-02-2011 07:23 PM

You should be building up auto leads to your own car selling websites and selling them to the highest bidder.

You'll have all of Ottawa's car salesmen hassling you and having bidding wars.

Show me one salesmen who doesn't want his phone to ring 80-90 more times this month.

Fucksakes 02-02-2011 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17888047)
You should be building up auto leads to your own car selling websites and selling them to the highest bidder.

You'll have all of Ottawa's car salesmen hassling you and having bidding wars.

Show me one salesmen who doesn't want his phone to ring 80-90 more times this month.

I agree, one thing im thanksful for is the oppertunity and everything I learned working there, I should definatly be working on my own site now as you say.

directfiesta 02-02-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 17887805)
Sorry about your situation, but they must have some weird laws up there if they can't lay people off.

lol ... we don't have those laws. People think we do tough ...

For the OP, they are abolishing your position.
So, train the person , but make it clear to the manager that the pink slip must mention that position is abolished.

You will get Unemployment benefits and the UI will find you a job .

Play ball with them .... :2 cents:

LiveDose 02-02-2011 07:37 PM

They want you to train her!? lol

Get her to start spamming the dealership domain all over the place.

PornGreen 02-02-2011 08:04 PM

after giving it some thought, the boss has left you no choice. fuck his mom.

L-Pink 02-02-2011 08:08 PM

It never hurts to do anything with class.


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lazycash 02-02-2011 08:35 PM

Will the new girl also be posting on gfy while at work?

MrBottomTooth 02-02-2011 08:53 PM

Here's the employment standards act. If they violated any part of it in any way, you can fuck them over. I would check it out and see if there is any "negotiation" room.

http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/

In some cases even Union contracts don't meet the entire obligations of the ESA.

ShellyCrash 02-03-2011 12:32 AM

Your knowledge is your leverage.

#1- Negotiate your severance package before you train her. Get everything in writing before you show her anything you do. If they drag their feet if you have any PTO days now is the time to cash them in until they decide how much they want to pay you.

#2- After the 2 weeks has expired, leave yourself open for questions (but not work) for the full period of your severence package, but once that time is up let them know if they want your assistance they will have to pay for it.

v4 media 02-03-2011 01:34 AM

contact every other dealership and tell them you'll work on a leads only rate. if you know you can pull in x amount. the $$ can rack up pretty quick.

lilith_pet 02-03-2011 03:27 AM

That sucks. Especially considering you did nothing wrong. Don't give up, you'll be fine

BuggyG 02-03-2011 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 17887757)
So today I found out I am losing my job at the car dealership as an internet manager.. I was bringing in leads, I was responsible in taking pictures, writing descriptions, posting them online.. building sites, driving traffic, getting phone calls etc.. I got about 60-90 leads a month.

A top sales person at our dealership said she was going to quit because she wanted to earn more money, she makes 80k and wanted to make more.. so they gave her my job and my pay because they dont want to lose her and I been there only 8 months compared to her 11 years.. my used car manager is thinking about quitting and following me where ever I go..

I got ppl telling me they cant do that to me.. or they need to serve me with a paper.. give me roi so i can go on unemployment.. im totally lost on all this...

btw if anyone has work.. I am available :(

I am from Ottawa, Canada.

hmm i'd call Services Canada about that or EI and ask about it. Weird they should give a reason better then that I would think. But I could be way off on it. and as for papers for EI, they haveto give it. And ALWAYS check that they send it to EI to gt ur benefits soon a possible. If not, then it'll be a trip to the Laurier street office (if it's close to you) and hand them a copy.

But yeh sorry to hear about it and I would still call and ask if they are allowed to do it

the Shemp 02-03-2011 04:20 AM

are you a "real" employee or a contractor...
are they taking deductions off your paycheck...?

u-Bob 02-03-2011 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fucksakes (Post 17887777)
thats my plan, I got alot of references... what a piss off thou, they want me to go in the next 2 weeks and teach the salesperson what i do, seriously do they expect this from me.. i dont need to show her do I.. I am worried they will fuck me over if I don't.

oh did I mention the salesperson and manager are best of friends.

Explain things in detail... give some much details it will seem overly complicated....

oh, and give her some 'good' seo advice... :winkwink:

u-Bob 02-03-2011 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 17887851)
dry the lead traffic up

what he said :)

Dodododa 02-03-2011 04:50 AM

Yes, teach her. But make everything seem extra difficult. Make her edit the sites in Notepad, for example. Find a way to add extra steps to everything. Talk really fast and use lots of big words. Go through SEO theories and search engine algorithms. Uninstall Dreamweaver and use a command line FTP client. She will realize it's too hard and call the whole thing off.

u-Bob 02-03-2011 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessie (Post 17887959)
she will need to learn [...] HTML [...]

heh, spend most of those 2 weeks teaching her how to write HTML in notepad... :winkwink:


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