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signupdamnit 02-05-2011 06:02 AM

Some have complained about many affiliates joining your program and never sending one hit but let me share the other side of that. Often when you go to a sponsor's site you have no way of knowing what promo content they have available for that particular site. In other cases the sponsor doesn't share important details such as the minimum payout, payment methods, charges, and other things until after you signup. I can't count how many times I have signed up for a program which claims to have video and photo FHG only to discover that they don't have what I need for the site I actually wanted to promote. It ends up being a waste of my time and theirs.

DVTimes 02-07-2011 10:05 AM

interesting thoughts

Barefootsies 02-07-2011 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deadmoon (Post 17891720)
the companies on affiliatewindow (and tradedoubler, etc) are hot on their t&cs and often want "decent" sites (not spammy auto generated blogs), guessing the £5 helps aff window stop people who will just put links up on shitty sites. think they might even call u to verify stuff (can't remember if they did with me, remember talking to them about something)

...unlike adult where anyone can sign up as an affiliate and most times approved straight away.

Exactamundo.
:thumbsup

Cherry7 02-07-2011 10:57 AM

A better understanding of the problems of the sponsor and the affiliate would no doubt be helpful. From our POV of a small independent paysite, we have a lot of affiliates that send small amounts of traffic so rarley make any sales. We assume they are beginners, amateurs or have forgoten they joined.

The few affiliates that make good sales, do so because they understand what we are doing and can put material on their site so that their visitors can see what are site is about.

We use CCBILL to adminster the payments and we in no way try to cheat the affiliate.

As we have to pay for the cost of making the movies, hosting, web design some of our affiliates make more money from our site than we do.

We would do a lot more for our affiliates but very few ever write, even though we try to e-mail them every few weeks.

We think we provide a good service in giving half our revenue in exchange for a sale. It surprises me that people are not beating down our door to join, that goes to show there is better money to be made in porn if you have the traffic.

Cherry7 02-07-2011 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 17888797)
Sponsors are greedy little piggies already, with their $5 check fees, traffic leaks to twitter, attempting to get their affiliate traffic to circumvent codes by getting them to type in their non-promotable network site (and even if it IS promotable they don't make their header graphic with full .com clickable.. gee wonder why), telling affiliate traffic to "try loading this site with your mobile phone now!!", $200 minimums, lots of wire-only programs now, making you ask to get paid out, the list goes on.

If looking at my sites isn't enough for you to see value in a listing (valued at more than $5...) then you need an IQ test.

Review our site, join our program, we will not cheat you... (can't see how to suggest sites to review on your site )

DVTimes 02-17-2011 02:24 PM

bump 4 today

96ukssob 02-17-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEA (Post 17887262)
sounds like you might get "mallick'd" with that company ;)

yeah, and they store your CC number and bang it every so often with hidden x-sales

blackmonsters 02-17-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17922696)
bump 4 today

Go ahead and start charging if you think it's good.

I can pretty much guarantee that I wouldn't sign up.

Simple reason : I have too many sponsors and if I'm going to have to pay them
all then I would just buy content and make my own pay sites/AVS.
It's going to add up to the same money spent but now I keep 100% of
my sales so I only have to make half the sales as usual.
If I can get the same number of sales then I'm twice as good off.

Charging for gallery submit passes got me out of submitting so I don't see
why this would have different results.

wehateporn 02-17-2011 02:39 PM

I'm finding that websites that don't have affiliate schemes are willing to pay me more for adverts than I can make with an equivalent affiliate ad. It saves them the cost and effort of setting one up an affiliate program, so it makes sense. On the other hand, I have to do a lot more work tracking people down and negotiating, though overall it's definitely worth it!

wehateporn 02-17-2011 02:43 PM

signupdamnit, in case you return to this thread, I'd be interested to know your throughts on this (or anyone elses for that matter)

A few days ago a webmaster emailed me, he was upset that a member of his site had been popping over to my site, getting himself recookied, then popping back to one of his sites and buying video downloads. This meant I was still taking half of the money. The webmaster only wants me to take the initial sale but then he wants to keep the surfer as his own from then on. He sees this as a big problem with his affiliate program.

Thoughts?


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