I have three citizenships so am i gonna have to die three times? :BangBang:

Not was, am.

You think becoming a willing pawn in an essentially meaningless global game of "mines bigger than yours" is bravery? Something noble? Haha. I guess that boot camp programming really works on some people.

quitter@home


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is this supposed to be a comeback lol?

Yes it did. I believe in my country. I believe in my family. And I believe in my friends. When it comes to defending any of the above, I will not run with my tail between my legs.

What makes a man, Gutterboy? Money? Fame? Talent? Would you turn on your country? Are you denying your brothers now?

The reality is that most people die trying to save their friends or others in combat,,

and i also believe the old shakespeare quote

Cowards die many times before their deaths; the valiant never taste of death but once.

Its fucked up growing old thinking you should of done something

I like that.

Just imagine the nightmares one would have for the rest of their life. Damn. Knowing that you could have saved someone, but you didn't. That's worse than death itself.

This is a noble quote. A coward dies a million times but a hero dies but once. Good post, playa.

what about your Mussolini quote haha?

I'm sorry but I would not die for my country.
I'd kick ass.

But seriously, I would only put my life in danger to save my family. Not to attack some other foreign entity. You only live once, you die, IT'S ALL OVER. No more anything. Life is too precious to go off cock fighting for some rich bastard politition. Afterall, our natural instinct is to survive at any cost right? well if it means me letting everyone else die and me survive, so be it. It's my body, and I'll do what it takes to keep it alive except leave my family behind, If i had to die to keep familiy alive, then I would pull the trigger FOR the enemy.



Honour is only good when your alive.

So go fulfill your destiny and die for your country, beer buddies, or whatever else. One less TGP poster.

The Y chromosome

Its not my country, its not your country. I didn't choose it, and most probably you didn't either. Trying to claim something as yours which you came upon soley by accident (of birth) is ridiculous.

You never see Palestinians burning Swiss or Canadian flags, or chanting "Death to Finland! The Great Satan!" do you? Some countries make their own troubles, incur their own debts of violence.. things which I am not responsible for. If those debts come due, what do I care if the place burns?

You can die for it, I'll be on the last plane out. :winkwink:

see sig.

hehe

I think some of you guys are selecting the NO option because you didn't read the question correctly.

If YOU were being ATTACKED.

This has nothing to do with invading someone else just for the fuck of it.

But, if everyone who selected NO did understand the question correctly... well... that's just sad.

Protecting your family doesn't always mean hovering over them at home. What good would that really do when an enemy is beating down the doors to your country? Your way of life? Your society?

The object of war is not to die
for your country but to make
the other bastard die for his

George Patton

gesus, did they drug you with lsd in teh 60's and brainwash you while you were still daddies sperm? When someone has a gun to your head while being robed, are you going to fight for your "insert pointless honour token here" or are you going to do what he says so you can live? War is NOT about honour, it's about who has the biggest dick. If you really want to get down to honour of defending your "county". WHat is a country WITHOUGHT people left? Not everyone likes to kill people or will even do it. To me being honourable is standing up for what i belive in, ANd killing is NOT one of them under ANY circumstance. If everyone would put their fucking pride aside and stopa cting like angry cave men, maybe there would be no need for killiing,

Way of life and society are not important here, it's staying alive. What good is a super-egotistical self centered arrogant materialistic money based society if there is nobody alive. People have survived thousands of years withought "way of life and society" I'm sorry but if someone WAS attacking my home I would defend it, but to join a cock fight when My family nor I are in immediate threat of death is rediculous. I would rather be a fucking cuban than be dead.

Understood. I do not believe in death and killing. Until EVERYONE agreees that war is not good, I will fight for what I believe in. I would stand up to someone who smacked my kids, as I would hope that you would. If someone attempted to attack my family, I would fight. Shit, if aliens attacked Earth, I would try to defend our way of life. War itself is not honorable, how you act in war is where the honor lies. Crying is not noble.

That's fine. Your choice.

I'd rather take my chances staying where I am instead of running to another land that I don't know, living with ideals I don't believe in. After all, isn't that why we live where we do?

have any of ya seen the movie

The Patriot

Good example of could happen

for the people that said no i feel sorry for you and your children,

i guess your mommies told you to walk away from bullies and not to fight

If aliens attacked earth I would need at least 7 days to mentaly prepare msyelf and unteach myself what I thougth about aliens. Then I would fight, because then I'm in imediate danger.


I think w hen i first read the poll I was assuming something else. I didn't clue into that it was an "if I was being attacked" scenario.

if enough peple stodd up and displayed they refuse to fight, there would be no need to go to war. Nobody to fight? No war.

No, I wouldn't fight but that's because I'm a girl! And I'm small
(I'm only 90 lbs and 5 ft tall) I'm wimpy , weak and scared of pain and blood! But I prolly would fight if i was a guy and tougher. I know a lot of guys love to fight and stuff, some guys even told me they would like to die in war, they think it's the "manly" thing to do. But I'm sorry, I have to admit, I'm a weakling, I'll probably run and hide in the bushes :(

Not all girls are wimpy tho, my best friend said she would fight agains the Iraqi girls! She told me I would probably die tho because I'm a wuss :(

Well duh, everyone knows diplomacy always wins.

Diplomacy is shit without enforcement.

Exactly! The true Military Scientists dream! War sucks. Those who wish to wage war are idiots. However, at this point in time, war is inevitable. The human race is not ready for a peaceful mankind. Shit, America was just attacked without provocation a little over a year ago. There are plenty of people in this world that DREAM of war.

Dude, I live in the real world. Not some perfect society. Something always fucks up. That's why we still have nukes.

People are not trustworthy. People always do what's in THEIR best interest. That's why counter-action is always needed.

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hehe

Alexander the Great defeated King Darius when Alexander only had 47,000 men and Darius had over 1,000,000! Might does not equal winning. You go girl!

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That I agree with, and the answer to the poll really depends on what the war in question is over.

People will undoubtedly die in the coming invasion of Iraq. Will they die for freedom? Their Country? Ideals? Their friends, family, and everyone else who mourns them will try to make themselves feel a bit better by pretending that is the case, but it ain't so. They will die because G.W.B wants to play personal grudge match with foreign policy.

If you were truly fighting for your freedom and the freedom of others, and it was a situation where you had to fight and risk death or live under tyranny, then yes, I'd go. But modern wars, for the most part anyway, have nothing to do with that. Its money, oil, religion, and ideology.. things I am not prepared to defend.

I've lost a knee and damn near lost the whole leg in service to my country. I don't give a damn if I am female, I've proudly served as a member of the armed forces, and would do so again without second thought.

Would I die for my country? Hell yes. You think those fucks over in the middle east give a shit about gender, you think they give two shits about anything or anyone other than their money, their oil, or their desired way of life?

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> Would you die for your country?


My answer flat out is .... FUCK no.

why should I?

I didn't find my life from no garbage bag...

I live once and whatever is going to take my life away damn well better be something better than me fighting a war !

word. and of course fighting doesn't always mean fighting physically.

:thumbsup

That was incase of me fighting a war abroad.



IN case of my country being attacked...


Fuck yes I would.

I would defend my country to death.


But I would never , EVER go to a war abroad.

I don't think so, I'm probably the wimpiest person you'll ever meet. But unfortunately I have a bad attitude too that doesn't go well with a physically weak person. One time I started a fight with some girls and they camped out in front of my house for weeks (because I cussed one of them out) and I was scared to leave my house for 2 weeks! I went grocery shopping at 6am in the morning to avoid them, and my friend, who's a lot tougher, would bring scissors with her so she could protect me, lol.

Anyways, I'm too scared to die for my country too, I'm too young to die, I'm only 24!! And I don't want to die a painful death, or get shot/stabbed or die of cancer, I just want to die in my sleep
:(

I know some females are very brave and do great service for their country, but I'm just REALLY scared of pain, I think it would hurt A LOT to get shot or stabbed and I don't think I can handle it. I don't have a high pain tolerance, I get freaked just getting my blood taken at the doctors, I don't think I can handle a painful death. Please God don't let me die painfully!!! :(

Untill you have stood in a pile of your friends blood as you hear his body girgle from the blood in his lungs and he asks you to help, when you have smelled what war smells like and the taste it leaves on you for weeks, after you see what happens when you live and your family dies, then you can choose to run or fight.

I have seen this and if someone invaded the US then you best hope the world ends soon after as a battle like that would not be worth fighting. A war like that would kill you even if the enemy doesnt. War is worse than what you see on TV or what you read in books, after the story is over it's gone, that doesnt happen in real life.

Would I fight again?

A physical confrontation is the LAST step in winning. And a desperate one at that. In any physical confrontation, no matter how powerful one side is, there is always a chance of losing.

same can be said about the contry claiming it needs to "defend" itself from iraq. Iraq has nothing, no manpower, no weapons capable of busting a bubble gum bubble. But they do have one thing, somehting to feed all the rich people's SUV's

Tell that to the Kurdish people, you know, the ones that Saddam was doing his best to eradicate from the face of the planet.

Well, if i have to die for my country, i just want to get shot in the head in the back, without seeing it, i don't want to get shot in my stomach and bleed to death in agony or get stabbed or anything painful and die painfully. Aren't any of you guys
scared of pain??????? I think I'm scared of pain more than anything, I'm probably more scared of pain than dying itself.

Fear of pain is a good thing. Learning to win without fighting is the ultimate goal (Sun Tzu - the Art of War). The world would be a better place if everyone thought like you did.