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Bake · 01-16-2003, 06:27 AM

CCbill for me why must I refresh them 5 fucking times to get them to load ?

FATPad · 01-16-2003, 06:32 AM

Epoch.

At least CCBill has stats.

EscortBiz · 01-16-2003, 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by Bake
CCbill for me why must I refresh them 5 fucking times to get them to load ?

http://www.dell.com that might help

extreme · 01-16-2003, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Epoch.

At least CCBill has stats.

second that.

Rand · 01-16-2003, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Epoch.

At least CCBill has stats.

We know it's time for an overhaul of our online stats. It's coming.

In the meantime, we provide all the raw data you can look at via our data dumps.

Look for new online stats in the near future. Long overdue. We would love to hear from Epoch clients about what they would like to see. Drop me a line. [email protected].

twistyneck · 01-16-2003, 07:57 AM

Quiet's.

FATPad · 01-16-2003, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by Rand

We know it's time for an overhaul of our online stats. It's coming.

In the meantime, we provide all the raw data you can look at via our data dumps.

Look for new online stats in the near future. Long overdue. We would love to hear from Epoch clients about what they would like to see. Drop me a line. [email protected].

I know. But that wasn't the question.

Will be interesting to see what you guys come up with.

chodadog · 01-16-2003, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by twistyneck
Quiet's.

I hate my stats even more so.

mmaisonet · 01-16-2003, 08:58 AM

FYI,

IBILL will be releasing a new interface called Nextgen. With state of the art reporting for not only you the webmaster. but for your affiliates as well.

To find out more, send me an email
[email protected]

jfkpt · 01-16-2003, 09:30 AM

AC-Pay's stats are crap

Socks · 01-16-2003, 09:32 AM

Honestly, I like ARS's stats the best. They're easy, complete, customizeable, they do just about everything right in that aspect. CCBill's stats are great too, dunno what the refreshing business is all about. I don't like ibill, too many clicks and passwords that expire in 30 days after you start? what the fuck is that about?

Snake Doctor · 01-16-2003, 10:08 AM

I like epoch better than ibill because with epoch your rebills are broken down by trial conversions and month to month conversions. Those are important numbers that I don't get from Ibill.

As for pay per sign up stats, FlashCash's are a bit of a pain.
If I log in and want to know how many joins I had yesterday, I have to go through the site by site breakdown to get the dates of the joins. (Unless I remember how many joins I had MTD yesterday)

multisexsite · 01-16-2003, 10:16 AM

I hate all the ones that say: $0

JohnV · 01-16-2003, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by Socks
Honestly, I like ARS's stats the best. They're easy, complete, customizeable, they do just about everything right in that aspect.

Socks,

Thanks. We work hard to make sure things are good for our webmasters. We know everything isn?t always perfect and that's why comments like yours are really appreciated.

Horny Dude · 01-16-2003, 10:29 AM

Gamma Cash!! They need to bring the old look back. The stats area is slow and hard to use.

ATL_Ryan · 01-16-2003, 10:31 AM

Globill + Stats = Sucky

Dawgy · 01-16-2003, 10:34 AM

stats? we dont need no stiiinkin stats!

Daymare · 01-16-2003, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mmaisonet
FYI,

IBILL will be releasing a new interface called Nextgen. With state of the art reporting for not only you the webmaster. but for your affiliates as well.

To find out more, send me an email
[email protected]

When are you going to pay for web900? You should do that first before working on ANYTHING else.

Theo · 01-16-2003, 10:54 AM

did you sell your shares? When do you except bankruptcy?

thanks

ZoiNk · 01-16-2003, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mmaisonet
FYI,

IBILL will be releasing a new interface called Nextgen. With state of the art reporting for not only you the webmaster. but for your affiliates as well.

To find out more, send me an email
[email protected]

No offence, but Ibill is dying. Look at your stock price, you state
it is b/c of the new Visa regs in a press release. I would love
to see if CCbill or Epoch are moving more $$$ after November.
Everyone is jumping shit from Ibill, simply b/c you guys aren't
going to make it. You owe ppl $$$, you scrub hard, bad
customer service, etc. Start looking for a backup job, b/c you
will need it within 6 months.
ZoiNk

Theo · 01-16-2003, 10:58 AM

Deadgen sounds better for ibill new interface.

GotGauge · 01-16-2003, 11:03 AM

websitebilling

slapass · 01-16-2003, 11:15 AM

Almost every AVS. No data just hits and joins usually.

The best stats are CE. They have absolutely everything. You can track link one compared to link two. Time of day your folks sign up. Just tons of stuff. Now if I could figure out how to make more money with all of that info.

MarkRhino · 01-16-2003, 11:55 AM

Lenny2 - not true :-)

Click on the 'Total' link at the bottom of the stats and you'll get the daily breakdown of everything.

Have you tried the 'Stats Tagging' feature yet? Together with the complete referrer stats, this gives you a complete overview of where your traffic is coming from.

More importantly, it can tell you what TGPs are worth submitting to and which ones are a waste of bandwidth

Yours,
Mark Rhino

khy · 01-16-2003, 12:03 PM

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Look for new online stats in the near future. Long overdue. We would love to hear from Epoch clients about what they would like to see. Drop me a line. [email protected].

Rand,

Ibill (I believe) has some of the most comprehensive stats. Some of the things that I'd like to see you guys implement are:
Projected rebills (by site and by day), compare vs stats (to quickly see sales vs last month or last year, etc), report that matches refunds/chargebacks to their original sales date so that I can look for trends and get a grip on customer service issues quicker.

Thanks!
Khy

fang · 01-16-2003, 12:08 PM

Boob Dollars has the best stats I've used... they tell it all

fang · 01-16-2003, 12:10 PM

oooops I forgot to say my worst stats in my last post

Ibill

Rand · 01-16-2003, 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by khy

Rand,

Ibill (I believe) has some of the most comprehensive stats. Some of the things that I'd like to see you guys implement are:
Projected rebills (by site and by day), compare vs stats (to quickly see sales vs last month or last year, etc), report that matches refunds/chargebacks to their original sales date so that I can look for trends and get a grip on customer service issues quicker.

Thanks!
Khy

Hmm... Projected rebills. How many others like that feature? It seems like it wouldn't mean a lot because it's not an actual number. But, that's what I'm here to find out. Do other WM's like that projection figure too??

The other stuff you mention sounds really good.

Nice to see Mark from Rhino chime in.

Snake Doctor · 01-16-2003, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by MarkRhino
Lenny2 - not true :-)

Click on the 'Total' link at the bottom of the stats and you'll get the daily breakdown of everything.

Have you tried the 'Stats Tagging' feature yet? Together with the complete referrer stats, this gives you a complete overview of where your traffic is coming from.

More importantly, it can tell you what TGPs are worth submitting to and which ones are a waste of bandwidth

Yours,
Mark Rhino

Thanks Mark, you're right.....I didn't even see that link down there.

And yes, the referrer stats with the option for additional tagging is really nice as well

Of coure, even when I thought your stats sucked I still used you because you convert, and that's what really matters

Snake Doctor · 01-16-2003, 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by Rand

Hmm... Projected rebills. How many others like that feature? It seems like it wouldn't mean a lot because it's not an actual number. But, that's what I'm here to find out. Do other WM's like that projection figure too??

The other stuff you mention sounds really good.

Nice to see Mark from Rhino chime in.

Yeah Rand, you've had this radio button in the stats area for awhile that says "active member count"
I've been dying for you guys to get that working. That and maybe a graph that shows your % conversion from trial and % conversion for monthly. (I can figure this out manually but its a pain and time consuming)

Rand · 01-16-2003, 12:36 PM

Good feedback Lenny2.

Anyone willing to post a screenshot of their favorite stats features?

khy · 01-16-2003, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Hmm... Projected rebills. How many others like that feature? It seems like it wouldn't mean a lot because it's not an actual number. But, that's what I'm here to find out. Do other WM's like that projection figure too??

Although it isn't a "real" number, it is a good gauge of our rebill database and there isn't much we like to watch closer than that.

There isn't anything that makes me happier than watching a steady increase in my "projected rebills" and there isn't anything that makes me panic more than watching that number go down...

Khy

seven · 01-16-2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by CJ_Ryan
Globill + Stats = Sucky

??? You mean affiliate stats? Cos they have the best comprehensive stats for paysite owners I have seen so far

khy · 01-16-2003, 12:53 PM

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When are you going to pay for web900? You should do that first before working on ANYTHING else.

I'm getting regular web900 payouts now. I can't believe I'm the only one....

I don't expect I'll ever get paid for the sales that Worldcom never paid for, but all new transactions are getting paid out just peachy.

I don't think the financial hit Ibill took recently is any more unrecoverable than the big loss Epoch had a couple years back and they made it through ok. We were as much as 5 months behind on payments from Epoch and so far, Ibill has caught up with nearly everyone, leaving only a few clients a month or so behind.

With the financial stability behind Ibill, I don't really see them going under any time soon. The company's direction seems to be heading away from the high risk merchant, but that doesn't equate to bankruptcy.

Khy

khy · 01-16-2003, 01:07 PM

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Look for new online stats in the near future. Long overdue. We would love to hear from Epoch clients about what they would like to see. Drop me a line. [email protected].

Oh! And another thing I'd reallly, really like is to be able to pull a report of all email addresses of active members and a report of all email addresses of expired members.

We do a lot of very successful marketing to expired Ibill subscribers and this report alone would help me make a lot more money at Epoch.

Thanks!!

DrGuile · 01-16-2003, 01:16 PM

ARS and CE the best.

probably ccbill the worst for webmaster stats... but eh, I still like CCBill a whole lot as a processor.

Greg N · 01-16-2003, 01:29 PM

DrGuile,

Thanks for the props!

Its great to hear that you like what we have to offer and we work hard to make sure that we keep our webmasters as happy as possible.

Kick Ass · 01-16-2003, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mmaisonet
FYI,

IBILL will be releasing a new interface called Nextgen. With state of the art reporting for not only you the webmaster. but for your affiliates as well.

To find out more, send me an email
[email protected]

if ibill does not pay webmasters, no matter how good the stats it will provide, ibill is still asshole company

angelsofporn · 01-16-2003, 03:03 PM

any afiliate programs that use epoch with no outside click stats

MarkRhino · 01-16-2003, 03:20 PM

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And yes, the referrer stats with the option for additional tagging is really nice as well.

Of coure, even when I thought your stats sucked I still used you because you convert, and that's what really matters

Sounds like someone has their priorities in order ;)

Rand, Dr Guile - nice to see you here!

DrGuile · 01-16-2003, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkRhino

Sounds like someone has their priorities in order ;)

Rand, Dr Guile - nice to see you here!

Hey Mark

Havent you noticed? Im everywhere ;)

Mr.Fiction · 01-16-2003, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by Lenny2

Yeah Rand, you've had this radio button in the stats area for awhile that says "active member count"

I thought I was missing something when that button wouldn't work for me.

rowan · 01-16-2003, 04:25 PM

Any affiliate program that doesn't show referring URLs. How do we know which galleries/sites are performing well, and which ones are stinkers?

WiredGuy · 01-16-2003, 04:28 PM

Globill stats I hate. It took my accountant more time to figure out the breakdown from the companies paying us that I ended up paying my accountant more than the sponsors paid me. So, anyone using Globill, I won't work with anymore until they can fix their stats to make it easy to use...

WG

xxxdesign-net · 01-16-2003, 04:39 PM

Hate Ibill stats... Cannot find which sites is which... their represented by numbers...!!?

PLus, their revshare hits is not realtime...

Bake · 01-16-2003, 07:17 PM

Hmmm some venting going on but some postive stuff as well
Stats are a very important tool the more stats the beeter id say tracking where sales are really comeing from.

01-16-2003, 06:27 AM	#1
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,275	who's stats do you hate the most CCbill for me why must I refresh them 5 fucking times to get them to load ? __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week

01-16-2003, 06:32 AM	#2
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Epoch. At least CCBill has stats. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

01-16-2003, 08:58 AM	#9
mmaisonet Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 252	FYI, IBILL will be releasing a new interface called Nextgen. With state of the art reporting for not only you the webmaster. but for your affiliates as well. To find out more, send me an email [email protected] __________________ The World Is Yours!! INNOVATIVE PAYMENT SOLUTIONS You Need Processing? We Can Help!! Offshore Processing, 3rd Party Processing, Direct Mids http://www.inpaysolutions.com [email protected] Icq 27701318 -(LatinSoulMan )

01-16-2003, 10:08 AM	#12
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I like epoch better than ibill because with epoch your rebills are broken down by trial conversions and month to month conversions. Those are important numbers that I don't get from Ibill. As for pay per sign up stats, FlashCash's are a bit of a pain. If I log in and want to know how many joins I had yesterday, I have to go through the site by site breakdown to get the dates of the joins. (Unless I remember how many joins I had MTD yesterday) __________________ sig too big

01-16-2003, 10:29 AM	#15
Horny Dude Earn enough to buy coffee Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: San Diego, Ca. Posts: 4,912	Gamma Cash!! They need to bring the old look back. The stats area is slow and hard to use. __________________

01-16-2003, 07:57 AM	#6
twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	Quiet's.

01-16-2003, 09:30 AM	#10
jfkpt Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 71	AC-Pay's stats are crap

01-16-2003, 09:32 AM	#11
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Honestly, I like ARS's stats the best. They're easy, complete, customizeable, they do just about everything right in that aspect. CCBill's stats are great too, dunno what the refreshing business is all about. I don't like ibill, too many clicks and passwords that expire in 30 days after you start? what the fuck is that about?

01-16-2003, 10:16 AM	#13
multisexsite Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 929	I hate all the ones that say: $0

01-16-2003, 10:31 AM	#16
ATL_Ryan Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,519	Globill + Stats = Sucky

01-16-2003, 10:34 AM	#17
Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	stats? we dont need no stiiinkin stats! __________________ the revolution is coming.

01-16-2003, 10:54 AM	#19
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	did you sell your shares? When do you except bankruptcy? thanks

01-16-2003, 10:58 AM	#21
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Deadgen sounds better for ibill new interface.

01-16-2003, 11:03 AM	#22
GotGauge Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: USA Posts: 3,072	websitebilling __________________ ICQ 22264474 [email protected]

01-16-2003, 11:15 AM	#23
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Almost every AVS. No data just hits and joins usually. The best stats are CE. They have absolutely everything. You can track link one compared to link two. Time of day your folks sign up. Just tons of stuff. Now if I could figure out how to make more money with all of that info.

01-16-2003, 11:55 AM	#24
MarkRhino Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: http://www.flashcash.com Posts: 35	Lenny2 - not true :-) Click on the 'Total' link at the bottom of the stats and you'll get the daily breakdown of everything. Have you tried the 'Stats Tagging' feature yet? Together with the complete referrer stats, this gives you a complete overview of where your traffic is coming from. More importantly, it can tell you what TGPs are worth submitting to and which ones are a waste of bandwidth Yours, Mark Rhino __________________ <A HREF="http://www.flashcash.com">Instant Payments From FLASHCA$H - Get Paid In Real-Time!</A> <UL> <LI>Paying out INSTANTLY for every signup - only from FLASHCASH! <LI>Get paid on FREE trials <LI>Paying up to $50 per signup! </UL>

01-16-2003, 12:08 PM	#26
fang Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,189	Boob Dollars has the best stats I've used... they tell it all __________________ Niche Sites and Reality Sites That = Big $$$ Get Your Share Now

01-16-2003, 12:10 PM	#27
fang Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,189	oooops I forgot to say my worst stats in my last post Ibill __________________ Niche Sites and Reality Sites That = Big $$$ Get Your Share Now

01-16-2003, 12:36 PM	#31
Rand Industry Vet Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 2,663	Good feedback Lenny2. Anyone willing to post a screenshot of their favorite stats features? __________________ -- Rand Payment Industry - Communications - Quality Assurance

01-16-2003, 01:16 PM	#36
DrGuile Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,025	ARS and CE the best. probably ccbill the worst for webmaster stats... but eh, I still like CCBill a whole lot as a processor. __________________ LiveBucks / Privatefeeds - Giving you money since 1999 Up to 50% Commission! 25% Webmaster Referal Powered by Gamma

01-16-2003, 01:29 PM	#37
Greg N Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cyn City Posts: 564	DrGuile, Thanks for the props! Its great to hear that you like what we have to offer and we work hard to make sure that we keep our webmasters as happy as possible.

01-16-2003, 03:03 PM	#39
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	any afiliate programs that use epoch with no outside click stats

01-16-2003, 04:25 PM	#43
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Any affiliate program that doesn't show referring URLs. How do we know which galleries/sites are performing well, and which ones are stinkers?

01-16-2003, 04:28 PM	#44
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	Globill stats I hate. It took my accountant more time to figure out the breakdown from the companies paying us that I ended up paying my accountant more than the sponsors paid me. So, anyone using Globill, I won't work with anymore until they can fix their stats to make it easy to use... WG __________________ I play with Google.

01-16-2003, 04:39 PM	#45
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Hate Ibill stats... Cannot find which sites is which... their represented by numbers...!!? PLus, their revshare hits is not realtime...

01-16-2003, 07:17 PM	#46
Bake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Outback of bumfuck Aussie Posts: 5,275	Hmmm some venting going on but some postive stuff as well Stats are a very important tool the more stats the beeter id say tracking where sales are really comeing from. __________________ Buy great domains from drunken burned out old webmaster CHEAP bullseyeporn.com art-met.com and more. Learn how to make a easy extra $500 per week