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kristin · 12-22-2010, 12:32 PM

Program 3 for content.

VideoBox for technology.

Pics Traffic · 12-22-2010, 12:32 PM

Hmm ... I've never seen any paysites inside

Shap · 12-22-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Program 3 for content.

VideoBox for technology.

Has videobox continued to improve? Or sat back on their one big hit?

PR_Dave · 12-22-2010, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

For most adult sites lowering their price would not increase the bottom line. Do you think that is why?

Do what works for you

PR_Dave · 12-22-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

I've always been worried about that especially attaching it to your main brand.

If a DMCA is submitted content is pulled right away and user is banned from the site.

Mutt · 12-22-2010, 12:41 PM

online porn has been like this for a very long time - there are 3 types of paysites now - Walmart(Porn.com), Big Box stores (Brazzers network, RK, Bangbros) and boutiques(Twistys). There are customers for all of them.

the problem today is that surfers can get Walmart and Big Box store content on tube sites and the boutique paysites' content via hundreds of blogs and forums linking to files on Hotfile, Filesonic, Megaupload etc

kristin · 12-22-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

Has videobox continued to improve? Or sat back on their one big hit?

Yeah, I think they are shifting focus to the future. They have a great product and what I thought was brilliant was offering the full DVD on the tour but limits the surfer to like 1-2 minutes however the surfer can choose whatever two minutes of the movie to watch. So while others were playing catchup, VB was already in a good position to seek other objectives.

I know that they have some cool things in the works content wise. =)

Roald · 12-22-2010, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Yeah, I think they are shifting focus to the future. They have a great product and what I thought was brilliant was offering the full DVD on the tour but limits the surfer to like 1-2 minutes however the surfer can choose whatever two minutes of the movie to watch. So while others were playing catchup, VB was already in a good position to seek other objectives.

I know that they have some cool things in the works content wise. =)

I know they have some very cool things in the works site wise too ;)

Roald · 12-22-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Do what works for you

Think this the best answer in this thread sofar.

PR_Glen · 12-22-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

online porn has been like this for a very long time - there are 3 types of paysites now - Walmart(Porn.com), Big Box stores (Brazzers network, RK, Bangbros) and boutiques(Twistys). There are customers for all of them.

the problem today is that surfers can get Walmart and Big Box store content on tube sites and the boutique paysites' content via hundreds of blogs and forums linking to files on Hotfile, Filesonic, Megaupload etc

low grade, cut off, grainy dvd content is not what we sell at all so I don't understand how you can compare what we sell to what is on tube sites for free... and anything we find on any of those file sharing sites gets shut down as soon as we spot them with DMCA's

Webmasters often forget that they are completely jaded compared to the average surfer when it comes to viewing porn. They have been looking at it daily for hours on end for YEARS where the average surfer maybe has a look a few times a week for an hour or so... IF THAT.

If you are able look at a site like you would if you haven't seen thousands already, like you don't watch it all the time.. you may get a better handle of what your customer is seeing as well.

PR_Dave · 12-22-2010, 01:18 PM

The big tubes are full of malware and spyware now. You will see a migration back to good solid affordable sites next year.

PR_Dave · 12-22-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Content submitted by users.

Eating my own words here, it's all content from DVDs from what one of the staffers just told me.

User submitted is coming in 2011.

homegrownmof · 12-22-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

If a DMCA is submitted content is pulled right away and user is banned from the site.

looks like a different tour now. So do you use that "user-submitted" content in your members area?

not sure that is DMCA protected

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-22-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

low grade, cut off, grainy dvd content is not what we sell at all so I don't understand how you can compare what we sell to what is on tube sites for free..

Newsflash: Most People Don't Need HD To Bust A Nut.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 12-22-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

The big tubes are full of malware and spyware now. You will see a migration back to good solid affordable sites next year.

No you won't. You'll see a move to tubes without malware and viruses, or to clean blogs/forums with direct download links. Pretty hard to drop malicious code into a free hosted blogspot blog linking to shit-tons of direct .avi downloads on rapidshare....

PR_Dave · 12-22-2010, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by homegrownmof

So do you use that "user-submitted" content in your members area?

All the content is from amateur DVDs so it looks homemade.

sue · 12-22-2010, 02:09 PM

Since I only work in the Asian niche I must say that I have stopped looking inside other members areas a long time ago. I got really fed up with most Asian sites offering their members almost no content and the third party feeds are non Asian content. There are a few really good Asian sites out there, but most of are run by companies that has absolutely no knowledge about Asian content. The few sites that focus on finding the best looking babes that there members are dying to get more content with are the winners in the end. A niche site can never compete with the more "mainstream" porn site in quantity, but most of us know what our members are looking for and give it to them.

PR_Dave · 12-22-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by homegrownmof

So do you use that "user-submitted" content in your members area?

No. We will be introducing a submit your sex tape section in 2011. Everyone got a sneak peak of the tour.

magicmike · 12-22-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by homegrownmof

looks like a different tour now. So do you use that "user-submitted" content in your members area?

not sure that is DMCA protected

AFF probably has the most user submitted content of any "members" section sites I've seen.

magicmike · 12-22-2010, 02:30 PM

And the boutique or niche sites biggest enemy has to be the surfer boards that have an insane amount of links on them.

Is there any way to fight that, except spamming their boards with content yourself?

PR_Dave · 12-22-2010, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by magicmike

Is there any way to fight that, except spamming their boards with content yourself?

We tested this traffic tool that shows where most of your competition is getting their traffic from.

One site mentioned in this thread gets a majority from spamming those free loader boards.

magicmike · 12-22-2010, 02:41 PM

Yeah I'm not surprised, I've been reading a few lately to try and get some insite on the industry.

I was also surprised to see AFF has 250,000 user submitted videos in their members area, no model releases, id's etc... Prob. the biggest collection of amateur porn out there. I have no idea if any of it is dvd, but to me it looks legit amateur.

Shap · 12-22-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Dude, three things here:

1. MINE motherfucker MINE. What else would I say?
2. What do you do all day Shap? Sit there in the bahamas and just think of fucked-up threads to start, day after day after day? "What do you think of this" and "what do you think of that". jesus already do some fucking work man and stop trying to be the new Barefootsies.
3. WHY are you constantly on here asking all your fucking questions? I thought Twistys and Shap were DA MAN and yet you come on GFY and ask, again and again, newbie-type questions. WHY?

I have answers to all these questions, of course, just wondering what yours may be. :D

PS: BRAZZERS is your fave paysite? Put the drugs down, dude, please, seek help.

LOL I have 25 people working hard getting things done

I get festive and giving at this time of year so I try to come up with ideas that somebody may benefit from. If one person reads it and benefits from it I'm happy

And besides the threads don't take too much of my time.

homegrownmof · 12-22-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave

No. We will be introducing a submit your sex tape section in 2011. Everyone got a sneak peak of the tour.

Can i get your email?

The Porn Nerd · 12-22-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

LOL I have 25 people working hard getting things done

I get festive and giving at this time of year so I try to come up with ideas that somebody may benefit from. If one person reads it and benefits from it I'm happy

And besides the threads don't take too much of my time.

LOL Just busting your chops, man.
Everyone knows Twistys rules.

Mutt · 12-22-2010, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by magicmike

And the boutique or niche sites biggest enemy has to be the surfer boards that have an insane amount of links on them.

Is there any way to fight that, except spamming their boards with content yourself?

solo girl sites get killed by it and other than sending out DMCA notifications there's nothing to do about it. I have one file hosting site who is daring me to sue them, they ignore my DMCA emails yet there are other sites who do get their content taken down. I need to hire a lawyer to investigate the owner of the file hosting site Oron.com to see if he has any assets - no point in suing broke people.

there is free promo in it but that's far outweighed by the damage the piracy does - guys who would have joined the site but don't because they can get it from the forums/file hosters for free.

The Porn Nerd · 12-22-2010, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

solo girl sites get killed by it and other than sending out DMCA notifications there's nothing to do about it. I have one file hosting site who is daring me to sue them, they ignore my DMCA emails yet there are other sites who do get their content taken down. I need to hire a lawyer to investigate the owner of the file hosting site Oron.com to see if he has any assets - no point in suing broke people.

there is free promo in it but that's far outweighed by the damage the piracy does - guys who would have joined the site but don't because they can get it from the forums/file hosters for free.

As they say in Mexican:
"Major Problemo"
See?

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