PR over traffic????

[OG LennyT]

LOL... I have noticed some people soooo anal about PR that they center their whole blog/site around keywords and SEO.

but

their traffic is shite and they probably get 300 hits a day, 60% from SEs... hahahaha... thats cool bro.

I dont judge because I've been there before and SEO is smart

but

you see the same people being pricks to potential link traders because their PR isnt good enough. WTF? Am I missing something?

anyway, just funny observations and nothing else to see here people.

[Jaii]

I know exactly what your talking about. luckily 99% of the people i have encountered lately are not like that. but that 1% really pisses me off

I have had a few people not wanting to trade traffic with my new site because its PR0 however the jokes on them its going to be PR5 on the next update.

[yahoo-xxx-girls.com]

Quality Traffic & Good Website position over PR !!!

hey dvd316 & Jaii,

Google PR is a bit miss-leading... to say it very nicely... Google Page Rank is only a small factor on your URL being listed high in the search engine... Google makes it very clear in their documentation as not to try linking tricks etc... as such may actually harm your chances on getting a good search engine position.

Yes... Trading hard links is very valuable, however it depends on how it is done. If you have 50 hard links all together then your PR may go up if your lucky and you might actually get some traffic out of it, but it comes at a price.

Let me explain myself further... more text on your html page means slower loading time for your website because your making your webpage bigger everytime. Google or the other search engines may ban you depending on thier terms; if they feel that your either "spamming" or taking part in a linking "scam"; they may ban you forever...

It seems to me that the weekend adult webmaster must think that if they link to everyone and thier dogs webpage that they are going to have great traffic because their PR is higher then normal....

Now if you are networking with many of your friends and networking buds who will not jumble up your hard links with the other webmasters then your quality of your traffic will most likely be very high from such hardlinks... and your Google PR will show this...

If you have 10 professional webmasters who will place your hardlink in a good loacation and they all have good traffic then you will be doing great...

On the other hand if you have 50 "weekend webmaster" who will trade links with you but they place your links too close to other webmasters hardlinks then you are not going to have much traffic even though your PR might be high... Why do you think webmasters are selling off their URLS with high Page Ranks like PR4 + ...

( if they were having quality traffic do you think they would get rid of it ???? NO NO NO !!! Traffic = MONEY !!! )

[smutx]

never really cared about pr for link trades

[pudcat]

I always prefer good traffic (OK, maybe if I can get a PR8 link then I'd prefer that )

PR is likely to increase if the webmaster is proactive in finding quality links and at some point in the future I'll probably pickup a bit of a boost. The main thing I've found PR good for is getting big sites crawled.

[OG LennyT]

hey dvd316 & Jaii,

Google PR is a bit miss-leading... to say it very nicely... Google Page Rank is only a small factor on your URL being listed high in the search engine... Google makes it very clear in their documentation as not to try linking tricks etc... as such may actually harm your chances on getting a good search engine position.

Yes... Trading hard links is very valuable, however it depends on how it is done. If you have 50 hard links all together then your PR may go up if your lucky and you might actually get some traffic out of it, but it comes at a price.

Let me explain myself further... more text on your html page means slower loading time for your website because your making your webpage bigger everytime. Google or the other search engines may ban you depending on thier terms; if they feel that your either "spamming" or taking part in a linking "scam"; they may ban you forever...

It seems to me that the weekend adult webmaster must think that if they link to everyone and thier dogs webpage that they are going to have great traffic because their PR is higher then normal....

Now if you are networking with many of your friends and networking buds who will not jumble up your hard links with the other webmasters then your quality of your traffic will most likely be very high from such hardlinks... and your Google PR will show this...

If you have 10 professional webmasters who will place your hardlink in a good loacation and they all have good traffic then you will be doing great...

On the other hand if you have 50 "weekend webmaster" who will trade links with you but they place your links too close to other webmasters hardlinks then you are not going to have much traffic even though your PR might be high... Why do you think webmasters are selling off their URLS with high Page Ranks like PR4 + ...

( if they were having quality traffic do you think they would get rid of it ???? NO NO NO !!! Traffic = MONEY !!! )

yes, thats the point I was getting at. Traffic is king, always will be.

check those link partners and see if they are burying your site on a list of 200 other sites at the bottom of their page.

I am going to be really scrutinizing mine in the next few days.

[OG LennyT]

great example!

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=649875

this guy only will trade with PR4 and higher but he has no traffic.. hahahaha..

people are funny

[Jaii]

to add this to thread, the new site of mine i spoke about earlier in this thread still shows pr0 but im recieving over 500 hits a day from google already, ( i know thats not an insane amount but the site is not even a month old yet )

[DarkWeb]

I have a PR4 page. Don't care if you have a PR0
Put your link on my page
$5.00= 1 Month
$25.00=6 months
No link back needed!!!
This has nothing to do with traffic but you will get some I'm sure
But what it is good for is a new website to get indexed faster
if you put your link on a PR10 it will be indexed faster than if you were to
put it on a PR1.

"Traffic is not king but targeted traffic is!"

[Jaii]

why would i buy your link when i can get pr4+ hard links for free? several of which come from my own sites. You really picked a bad thread to post this in!

[DarkWeb]

Well I gess you aren't the audience I am looking for. But my point was that if you put your link on a higher ranked page it will be indexed faster it isn't about traffic. Traffic is just an extra you get from it.

[ynuahayt]

Well I think that hardlinks should ALWAYS be for SEO purposes - if you want to tade traffic use a trade script/referrers script. That being said, you could have different spaces on your site for links so that people who can send you next to no traffic BUT still give you a link -> help you in the search engines can also trade hardlinks with you.

And then a Friends section or whatever at the top of your site with hardlind/traffic trade partners.

[DarkWeb]

You said it better than I could

[DarkWeb]

Oh, and if you are getting them for free unless they're from your sites you do have to link back, thats why mine aren't free

[Jaii]

Oh, and if you are getting them for free unless they're from your sites you do have to link back, thats why mine aren't free

Thats not entirely true, actually not even close. alot are from friends websites then there is A-B-C Linking is how most of my inbound links are established, so with that there is no outbound link to their website from the site their linking too.

[King of Queens]

Here's something else that's rediculous too.

Pr3-4-5-6 sites with 100+ pages and links on that page and they still think their pr is valuable.

The pr that is passed along from pages set up like that is reduced dramaticly to like 0.035 per page/link. instead of at least 0.0400 - 0.1000 something worth while. Passed pr score depends on how many pages and out going links are on a page.

More pages and links on a page with pr = less pr passed on. So pr wise how valuable do think your site is?

Then they still scream I only trade with pr [insert lame page rank #]. Many of these pr fanatics arent even doing their seo correctly.

Same pr+, same niche isnt all there is to obtaining search engine rank mate.

But dont take my word































Go check your search engine referal stats.

Now go chase some more page rank

[DarkWeb]

Ya but you still put a link on one of your pages. wether it be site A,B,or C you still have to put a link up. Unless I'm misunderstanding you. But from a post you had made it said that you would put a link from there low ranked page on one of your high ranked pages and in turn you would need a link from one of your lower ranking pages to be put on there page. Some type of 3way trade.

[DarkWeb]

King of Queens So you think puting you link on a higher rated page does nothing?
Then why are so maney webmasters trading links?

[Jaii]

basically put it this way after 2 and a half weeks im getting 500+ a day of google traffic not counting other engines, so we can go round and round all day about this but at the end of the day the traffic is flowing in for me so i guess my tactics cant be all that bad.

[DarkWeb]

Sure we can go round and round because I've been sick for abit like 2 months so not much got done on the site but if you lookinto my site for what it usualy does than you would realize your 500 a day sucks even if you had 5,000 a day it would still suck. I hope you remember that you stated in one of your other posts oh actualy it's the second one on this page. Don't think you know everything!

[Jaii]

500 google hits a day sucks for the site being up 2 weeks? please.... and did you actually just say 5000 google hits a day sucks? lmfao.... you just said all i needed to hear right there.

[DarkWeb]

HaHaHa Ok

[DarkWeb]

I'm not here for an arguement was trying to make a point that not everyone with highranking pages wouldn't do business with lower ranking pages.

[King of Queens]

King of Queens So you think puting you link on a higher rated page does nothing?
Then why are so maney webmasters trading links?

It gives you another link, maybe some more traffic but it dont optimize your website correctly/automaticly.

[OG LennyT]

I'm trying to make a point that not everyone with highranking pages wouldn't do business with lower ranking pages.

I read your posts and am not following your arguement.

This thread was started to laugh at the people that are so crazy about PR that they forget about the business of garnering traffic from potential partner sites for the sole fact a site's PR isnt good enough.

[DarkWeb]

It gives you another link, maybe some more traffic but it dont optimize your website correctly/automaticly.

No it dosn't optimize your page but my page will get crawled before a lower ranking page and it(the link) has a higher posibility to be seen(by a robot) than if you just sat there and did nothing. Again I'm not here to argue I don't want to come across that way

[King of Queens]

No it dosn't optimize your page but my page will get crawled before a lower ranking page and it(the link) has a higher posibility to be seen(by a robot) than if you just sat there and did nothing. Again I'm not here to argue I don't want to come across that way

You are correct about getting crawled but you could put the link in your sig and get it crawled. This place is crawled several times daily because there is fresh content every hour but none of the threads have any pr.

So which is better for getting a new site crawled/indexed, a pr5 that haven't been updated since January of this year with the exception of adding new links or a link in your sig on pr0 thread in a forum that has long history of being updated every hour of the day?

Lower pr or no pr that get updated regularly will work faster than a dusty pr5/6 that dont get updated mate.

In this case high pr dont mean much unless the site/blog is updated regularly.

If it's not updated then there is no reason for robots to come as often regardless of pr. Make sense? There looking for fresh content not pr.

[DarkWeb]

It totaly makes sense but I don't know why you think I don't update look at the top of the page it says it right there. Most of the time it's a few times a day. Where do you get your info mabey that wasn't updated. And I think your also talking about "Sig Whoring" Ya I heard of that

[King of Queens]

It totaly makes sense but I don't know why you think I don't update look at the top of the page it says it right there. Most of the time it's a few times a day. Where do you get your info mabey that wasn't updated. And I think your also talking about "Sig Whoring" Ya I heard of that

First of all I was speaking in general about not updating. Havent seen your site mate not that I recall.

And no I'm not talking about sig whoring. Just simply placing your link in there and post as often as you normally do.

It is your sig space ya know?

If you call placing your link in your sig spot sig whoring then I guess I'm guilty.

[free4porn]

I totally agree with this thread. One of my sites has pr2 not that high, yet it gets quite a bit of traffic. To bad no one with pr2+ will trade lol

[playmouth]

trade with me !