will work for free :) really!

[sh0gun]

I'm offering the following services for FREE:

- gallery posting
- handling incoming and outgoing emails
- creative writing
- php / mysql / design work
- data extraction and manipulation
- anything else u need

There is no catch it;s all free. Money free

What I ask in return is that u help me grow my site.

I am a very experienced programmer but I new to this adult stuff. I would like to work for an experienced webmaster, to learn how things are done in this business.

Anyone interested? Hit me up on icq: 396608589 or by email [support] at /famouswebcam/ dot com

Stef

[NTM]

asking something in return = isn't free

[sh0gun]

yeah, but I said: "money free"... what I am asking in return is not much, just a little advice

[wateva]

a gr8 offer but me not experienced myself........

[sh0gun]

.........

[intex]

Review:

Guys I feel you better pay for what you want to get done. I wasted some time with him & at last he said give me proof that you are with very good experience. He said I am new.

He didn't see that I made lots of sites & in a very short time I am earning like hell from those sites.

I have lot to say but I prefer not to waste your time until you have few years old domain with whatever reputation you have in this field.

Good Luck kid

[sh0gun]

Review:
He didn't see that I made lots of sites & in a very short time I am earning like hell from those sites.

freevideolist.net and femalestar.net and imagewaste.com
All of them have been registered within the last 3-4 months. My site has been online 6 months. Check out the sites people, judge for yourselves.

And the worst part is that when I asked is for ANY proof that these are your domains and you couldn't even produce that. I was ready to give you proof of my domains and activities.

As I said I WORK FOR FREE but fuck if I'm gonna get scammed. It's not that you are not experienced, I can't be the judge of that now, it's that you appear to be a fucking liar.

Guys, am I wrong to ask a few questions about this guy that I just met? Do any of you got where you are by blindly trusting people?

Stef

[Ecchi22]

Woah.. Drama here

[Ecchi22]

And yeah, I don't think you'll learn anything from someone that is hiring people to work for free ;) Better focus on reading stuff around and test it on your own

[intex]

look this guys he never asked about that those my domains:
I have everything saved look what he asked for:
check it out what he asked for:
"stefanvesca >(9:33 PM):
trust me this is whole thing is not a scheme to get PAID clients. I am really into this for experience. But you haven't providedany proof of that experience"


So the fucking liar above said he asked for proof of that those are my doamin but the fucking idiot asked me for experience proof not domain proof.


fuck you & your start in this field is very bad fucking kid. Lets see how you make your fucking career with this kind of fuckin start.....

good luck fucker

[intex]

First rule:

When you discuss something on instant messengers:

Save your fucking conversation so that later fucking kids like you can't lie about things.

[intex]

& here check this guys what I asked him when he said he want to see fucking proof:


"intex (9:16 PM):
you need to see my paypal account, my AVN acount, cpx account, list of people who have worked with me, references, my reputation on webmaster forums or what ?"


& in return he said:

stefanvesca >(9:18 PM):
nothing like that


What the fuck he want then ?
Fucking liar (try to lied about a webmaster)

[zand_stein]

Your giving your service for free and
all you want is just a piece of advice.....
thats very unbelievalbe......
Is that really for real

[loreen]

You're not starting very good...

[hardcoreblogger]

fuck you & your start in this field is very bad fucking kid. Lets see how you make your fucking career with this kind of fuckin start

it is only you who sounds like a fucktard here. he was right to question your experience, because obviously you don't have it. he made a nice win-win offer for the right person and all you wanted is take advantage of it. you better fuck off

[Pim(P)]

"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"

[intex]

it is only you who sounds like a fucktard here. he was right to question your experience, because obviously you don't have it. he made a nice win-win offer for the right person and all you wanted is take advantage of it. you better fuck off

Oh yeah what do you know about me ?
hit me on ICQ & I will show you my experience & how fast I grew in this field & I will also give you whole list of questions & answers that kid & me discussed.

& fuck thing was started by him in this thread.Check above. I was pretty good towards him but he started bad with me.

Also do not start fuckin until you don't know about the people you are talking about.

Also check the hell things he lied about above & I mentioned the right thing happen.

I hope you will take back your words after all is cleared.

[sh0gun]

First of all thanks to ecchi22, zand and hardcoreblogger who had my back.

Reading everything that was written here there are a few things that I need to clear:

1. This offer was not intended for everyone. I assume the right to choose who I work for.
2. I also assume the right to question any new guy I meed in this industry. Not doing so would be really stupid of me.
3. I also assume the right to trust my gut instinct.
4. Intex is saying that this thread is a lie and
a) I am after PAID work
or
b) I want to screw people over.

a) is not true as I have a lot of work offers already - unfortunatelly I can't prove this statement right now
b) I just started in this biz - famouswebcam.com - and screwing people over is the last thing I want to. I know how important fellow webmasters are, that is why I joined the forum.

Intex, dude, your whole story here does not make any sense. What really happened is that I politely turned you down after 1 hours of talking. I am sorry I have wasted your time and more sorry that I have wasted mine.

[sh0gun]

& here check this guys what I asked him when he said he want to see fucking proof:


"intex (9:16 PM):
you need to see my paypal account, my AVN acount, cpx account, list of people who have worked with me, references, my reputation on webmaster forums or what ?"


& in return he said:

stefanvesca >(9:18 PM):
nothing like that


What the fuck he want then ?
Fucking liar (try to lied about a webmaster)

This is a bit of converstation that intex forgot to show - this bit goes almost at the end of the conversation:

"stefanvesca (8/2/2007 7:08 PM):
listen instead of talking about things that could be, why don't you show me your biggest site (with proof) and I will decide whether or not I want to work for u. How's that?"

So I asked for proof of what he was saying, I think it's a legit question.


If u really own those domains please add a gfy.html page on them and I will sincerely apologize for calling u a liar.

If u can't do that please don't waste people's time with this crap.

[sh0gun]

"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch"

I have a lot of exprience with php / mysql / html and some with design but I need to know how the adult biz works. Maybe there is some webmaster out there (except intex) who knows all about adult but needs someone to code a few sites for him. I think it's a fair trade

[intex]

freevideolist.net/gfy.html
imagewaste.com/gfy.html
imagebrb.com/gfy.html


Check & now I want you to apologize in this & also open a separate thread with full respect.

& always leave your fuckin attitude at home not in biz.

[sh0gun]

lol, dude u have my sincere apologies. I was wrong about the domains.

But still, I refuse to work with u. I have my reasons wich were presented here earlier.

And please admit that during our discussion on icq u haven't provided any sort of proof that u own those domains. So I was right to consider you a liar.

[intex]

lol, dude u have my sincere apologies. I was wrong about the domains.

But still, I refuse to work with u. I have my reasons wich were presented here earlier.

And please admit that during our discussion on icq u haven't provided any sort of proof that u own those domains. So I was right to consider you a liar.

oh cut the shitty crap out

No one wants to work with you & I already cleared above I better pay for the work I want. Not any fuckin free deal with anyone.

& what they hell you are saying: I have whole discussion saved & you haven't asked me about domain proof in whole discussion.

So you started fuckin lies & I will remember this & see when you enter in adult biz & how you grow with this kind of shitty start.


Also I told you while our discussion that never ever try to cheat with anyone in this biz. otherwise people will not take any time in damaging your reputation. Just always give your nest & be fair with everyone.

But in starting you did the thing I warned you about & currently you don't even have any reputation among people around.

goodluck kid

[JackTrade]

leave it alone and get on with things.. arguing over the internet is pointless...

[chris355]

To intex: For an experienced webmaster you're the moron here, the kid offered free work and wants learning in return.
First: If he feels you're not the right person he want to learn from, he as all rights to say no thanks.
Second: He didnt try to damage your reputation, You started to shit on his tread. And that make you look like a little bitch.
Third: If i was him, I would have said no thanks the same.

[sh0gun]

thanks chris...

intex, dude, get over it... I don't want to work with u. Normally I didn't even owed u an explanation but I thought I'd be honest and tell you I don't consider u experienced and I had a feeling u lied about your domains. That is what got us here, so don't accuse me of being dishonest.

If u think I lied about anything make it public and I will explain myself. Stop saying you're gonna print our whole discussion cuz, like Chris said, you're starting to look like a little bored housewife looking to fill her time with some soap opera-style drama.

so, please get the fuck of my thread!

[Bell]

what's the domain you want help promoting ??

have you done any other sites - besides this one you want help with ??
which ones ??

are you also for hire for php work ??

~Bell (Patricia)

[sh0gun]

HI Patricia, my one and only site is famouswebcam.com

It's custom coded by me. I haven't done any other sites.

Yes, I haven't done freelancing in a while now cuz I've been involved with adult biz and I am almost running out of money, so yes, I am available.

What do you need? Contact me on icq or at

support
at
famouswebcam
com


Stef

[tenderobject]

Oh yeah what do you know about me ?
hit me on ICQ & I will show you my experience & how fast I grew in this field & I will also give you whole list of questions & answers that kid & me discussed.

& fuck thing was started by him in this thread.Check above. I was pretty good towards him but he started bad with me.

Also do not start fuckin until you don't know about the people you are talking about.

Also check the hell things he lied about above & I mentioned the right thing happen.

I hope you will take back your words after all is cleared.

i see your point here.. did you give atleast any proof that you are knowledgable in this field/biz? i'm not questioning your experience/skills etc.. this guy is taking work for in exchange with some advice/knowledge from people who are atrleast stable in the biz.. maybe if you just gave him a little bit of proof of what you have..

you don't have to give your acct infos for each sponsors you have. you know that.. if i was this guy i would probably ask thousands of question just to make sure both time and effort would not be wasted. it might be the guy reacted that much or trying to much just to protect him.. i would certainly be vigilant also since this industry if full of crap, scumbags, con etc etc and i for sure if you are here long enough you know about that... just my 2 cents. hope you guys could settle this up.. goodluck..

anyways, what script are you using with imagewaste?

[intex]

i see your point here.. did you give atleast any proof that you are knowledgable in this field/biz? i'm not questioning your experience/skills etc.. this guy is taking work for in exchange with some advice/knowledge from people who are atrleast stable in the biz.. maybe if you just gave him a little bit of proof of what you have..

you don't have to give your acct infos for each sponsors you have. you know that.. if i was this guy i would probably ask thousands of question just to make sure both time and effort would not be wasted. it might be the guy reacted that much or trying to much just to protect him.. i would certainly be vigilant also since this industry if full of crap, scumbags, con etc etc and i for sure if you are here long enough you know about that... just my 2 cents. hope you guys could settle this up.. goodluck..

anyways, what script are you using with imagewaste?

hey I know what you are saying & I completely agree with your. Neither him & no me want to waste our time but he never asked me for proof for domains while discussion & in this thread he started lying about things thats what I don't like about him. This shows what type of person he is.

Also please check about I showed all the proof & he also apologized to me but in a fuckin manner again & still lying about things.
check my post at 09:50 AM
& his post at 10:05 AM
& he is saying he don't want to work with me as I ever asked him to work for me. Oh what the hell he think he is ?

Imagewaste was a free script with only one uploading at a time & nothing at all. So the coder works for me did all the modifications I needed & as my coder is going to make a new script for me, I might sell that script to someone in need.

[sh0gun]

Neither him & no me want to waste our time but he never asked me for proof for domains while discussion & in this thread he started lying about things thats what I don't like about him. This shows what type of person he is.

Dude stop saying I lied, here's where I asked for proof:

"stefanvesca (8/2/2007 7:08 PM):
listen instead of talking about things that could be, why don't you show me your biggest site (with proof) and I will decide whether or not I want to work for u. How's that?"

This was towards the end of the converstaion where both of us got kinda hostile.

You say I have an attitude? Is this attitude?

"stefanvesca (8/2/2007 4:27 PM):
is there anything I can help u with?"

"stefanvesca (8/2/2007 4:28 PM):
that is what I am asking for. Nothing for free"

"stefanvesca (8/2/2007 4:31 PM):
I truly respect that. becuase I am in the same position as you were. I am not trying to disrespect any established webmasters out there, I am just trying to get ahead"

huh?

now please stop telling people I started lying and tell me exactly what the lies are so I can prove you wrong.

[ParNxtaR]

ssssshhhhh.. now now... easy boys...

[intex]

Dude stop saying I lied, here's where I asked for proof:

"stefanvesca (8/2/2007 7:08 PM):
listen instead of talking about things that could be, why don't you show me your biggest site (with proof) and I will decide whether or not I want to work for u. How's that?"

How the hell in this whole world the fuckin sentence above shows that you wanted to see the proof of my domains ?
I gave you url of site but before & fuck man when did you ask proof for those domains. Who the hell could say he asked me domain proof with his above question

[intex]

ssssshhhhh.. now now... easy boys...

I am trying man & I tried to keep away from this thread but the kid want to go far ahead with his lies.

[sh0gun]

big thanks to all the stand-up guys who added me to icq and trust me...

intex, let's give it a rest man, I think we've bored enough webmasters here. Let's call it a communication problem, ok?

[sh0gun]

you are so persuasive I'm thinking of buying that spot on your sig peace?

[gooddomains]

work 25 hours a day and you will be rich in no time ;-)

[sh0gun]

lol... that is what I'm doing...

[tenderobject]

you are so persuasive I'm thinking of buying that spot on your sig peace?

hmmm.. after reading again your last reply.. i think youve offended him or something.. and don't forget you are just starting in the biz..... not need for that kind of attitude

[KimJI]

sh0gun.

In case you are searching for a partner, let me know. I got several undeveloped domains and ideas we could develop together if you are dedicated to your work.

Send me a email with some details/links to your programming, and lets see if we cant find a deal

See sig for details. Im going to bed now, but I will check my mail in the morning.

[intex]

you are so persuasive I'm thinking of buying that spot on your sig peace?

what the hack man

even after you apologized to me, you show that fuckin attitute & you want settlement & even now again you started fucking.

Well now I will stand up on what I said from starting you are liar, cheater & a fuck hell shit. This is your start & lets see how far you go until you change yourself or your ip address, your user name, ICQ, etc.

because there are no place for cheaters/liars in internet adult biz.

[sh0gun]

hmmm.. after reading again your last reply.. i think youve offended him or something.. and don't forget you are just starting in the biz..... not need for that kind of attitude

I am not trying to mock anybody. I just thought that there is so much tension on this thread, and a joke might be a good ideea.

I do have a lot of respect for other webmasters cuz I'm starting to realize that this job is not easy

Stef

[tenderobject]

I am not trying to mock anybody. I just thought that there is so much tension on this thread, and a joke might be a good ideea.

I do have a lot of respect for other webmasters cuz I'm starting to realize that this job is not easy

Stef

goodluck then..