For Sale: Cleantgp.org + Hosting + All code + Galleries + Custom PHP CMS

[testpie]

Why am I selling it?
I don't really have the time to work on it anymore, and the whole concept of a "clean TGP" doesn't seem to be one that somebody who is new to the industry can pull of easily - i'm sure if some bigger players got hold of it, they could put it to much better use: perhaps using it to exlusively promote their paysite (yet appear to the casual surfer as an unbiased TGP site). I also want to concentrate more on my blog and other mainstream projects.

Details
Domain: http://www.cleantgp.org
Hosted with: Dreamhost (1 yr package, 20 GB space, 1 TB bandwidth)
Up since: 12 May 2006
Alexa traffic rank: [1 wk avg] 429,104 | [3 mo. avg] 843,025
Alexa reach (per million): [1 wk avg] 4 | [3 mo. avg] 0.9
(Source and other traffic graphs: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...w.cleantgp.org)
Traffic: [Total Page loads] 1,461 | [Total uniques] 1,149 | [Avg uniques/day] 22
(N.B. I have not included today in the avg uniques per day figure, as i experimented with ~1,500 visitors worth of Choker traffic, although the totals do include these visitors)
(Source: StatCounter (installed for past week) - http://my.statcounter.com/project/st...599187&guest=1)
WHOIS details: http://whois.domaintools.com/cleantgp.org

Revenue
As yet, the site hasn't made anything (it's only been up for approximately 25 days, and due to it's current nature cannot exchange links) and uses Sapphic Cash and Spunk Bucks for monetisation.

About the site
Basically, my goal was to orginally create a completely-free TGP site that was clean of all adverts, links, skims and so on - hence the name "CleanTGP". This involved a few galleries of around 15 thumbnails being posted, upon which a visitor could click a thumbnail to see a larger, more detailed image and then click on again to take them to the affiliate's FHG.

However, after seeking advice, the site was changed to the traditional TGP format you see today, and currently has a customisable number of galleries on each page, and a number of automatic features such as pagination.

What you will get

• The domain and hosting until they expire (www.cleantgp.org, registered until 12 May 2007)
• The current design and all CSS files relating to it
• All 1099 galleries that are currently on the site (the NATS referral codes can be changed for you before i hand it over)
• CSV dump script (custom made by me, allowing you to input a CSV dump from a NATS affiliate and it will generate all galleries by downloading and resizing the thumbnail, adding all data to the CleanTGP backend, and checking that each gallery within the CSV dump has a picture and isn't a fake, etc.)
• The custom CMS backend, with:
  • Manual add gallery facility
  • Manage galleries facility (paginated, allows you to edit any of the galleries - including the image's ALT code and the affiliate URL)
  • Statistics - total visitors (doesn't match StatCounter figures because i only started using StatCounter a week or so ago), total galleries, date last gallery was added & list of galleries sorted by number of hits
  • Manage users facility
  • Tiered user ranked system [Admin, Moderator and Viewer: Admin - Can perform all operations within the system | Moderator - As Admin, but without the ability to add/edit/delete users | Viewer - Can only view statistics (no ability to modify anything, useful for affiliate accounts)]
  • Logging facilities (logs logins/logouts, additions of galleries, modifcations to galleries, deletion of galleries etc.)
  • Backup features - allows for a full-site (including MySQL database and all thumbs, etc.) backup as a ZIP, which is stored on the site and offered for download & a database-only backup, which is stored on the site and offered for download
  • Multi-user level password and login protected access, with cookies

  
  
• The old CMS system code (whereby there were galleries with many thumbs, and a thumb could be clicked to enlarge it), with:
  • Manage galleries feature (modify affiliate URL)
  • Gallery statistics (hits, add date etc.)
  • Statistics (number of galleries, last gallery addition date, table of all galleries with number of images in and number of hits)
  • Access log (to detect any hacking attempts)
  • Traffic statistics - total visitors, last visitor date and time, list of referers, most recent referer etc.)
  • Donators list - used to add and edit any donators to the site
  • Single user-level password protected access, with cookies

  
  

I've probably missed a bit, but that's as much as i can think of at the moment

Price
I'm quite open to most offers, although i would appreciate a decent offer, as i have put many weeks-worth of time into coding all these features, submitting galleries, whoring the site out and so on.

I don't really have a set level in mind - but if you are interested, just e-mail me at cleantgp[at]inbox[dot]lv or hit me up on ICQ, 214366067 and i'll be more than willing to discuss it with you.

I can accept payment by PayPal or ePassporte.

Other
If you want to know anything else, just feel free to drop me an e-mail (cleantgp[at]inbox[dot]lv) or hit me up on ICQ (214366067) and i'll get back to you as promptly as i can.

Finally, apologies to Hoarder for emulating his for sale format :D.

[PussyTeenies]

good luck!

[gooddomains]

bump for you

[ffmihai]

man so many details...
tell us traffic and price and url and its enough

[testpie]

man so many details...
tell us traffic and price and url and its enough

Traffic: [Total Page loads] 1,464 | [Total uniques] 1,182 | [Avg uniques/day] 22
(N.B. I have not included today in the avg uniques per day figure, as i experimented with ~1,500 visitors worth of Choker traffic, although the totals do include these visitors)
(Source: StatCounter (installed for past week) - http://my.statcounter.com/project/st...599187&guest=1)

Price
Make what you feel is a reasonable offer, considering the weeks-worth of work that have gone into developing the site.

URL
http://www.cleantgp.org

[PRaskind]

I like the format, loud and clear

[tenderobject]

ill this later. will you sell the cms incase?

[testpie]

ill this later. will you sell the cms incase?

Do you mean will i sell the CMS seperately?

[testpie]

Bump for some offers.

[tunafox]

Seriously dude, with no traffic, no google PR, no sales, & hosted on dream host you would be lucky to get $10 for it.

Also in reference to your url cleantgp.org:
Is it easy to remember: No
Type in traffic: No
Dot com: No
Sorry but the domain name is also worthless.

The hard work you have put into it may be a factor in your mind, but unfortunately to everyone else it don't mean squat.

I really do not mean to be an arse but someone has to say it how it is.

Now what to do about it:

First make sure to get the thumbnails the same size and use a decent table so your images are evenly spaced. Seriously man the site needs lots of work.

Next get yourself a decent backend tgp rotator script such as Comus Thumbs(Free ~2% skim), get a decent trade script like AT3(Free ~2% skim), buy some more choker traffic, get a few trades, once setup properly the site will almost run on auto pilot.

BTW: There is no money in TGP.

[testpie]

Seriously dude, with no traffic, no google PR, no sales, & hosted on dream host you would be lucky to get $10 for it.

Also in reference to your url cleantgp.org:
Is it easy to remember: No
Type in traffic: No
Dot com: No
Sorry but the domain name is also worthless.

The hard work you have put into it may be a factor in your mind, but unfortunately to everyone else it don't mean squat.

I really do not mean to be an arse but someone has to say it how it is.

Now what to do about it:

First make sure to get the thumbnails the same size and use a decent table so your images are evenly spaced. Seriously man the site needs lots of work.

Next get yourself a decent backend tgp rotator script such as Comus Thumbs(Free ~2% skim), get a decent trade script like AT3(Free ~2% skim), buy some more choker traffic, get a few trades, once setup properly the site will almost run on auto pilot.

BTW: There is no money in TGP.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but a quick appraisal on just the domain at LeapFish gives:
Estimated base value: $264
Estimated actual value: $11,616
(Source: http://www.leapfish.com/analyze.php?url=cleantgp.org)

Even if those figures were slightly wrong, you can still assume at least $75 for just the domain - but i'm selling the rest of the site, a custom PHP CMS backend, the old PHP backend, all the galleries and lots more too - how do you know there isn't any type-in traffic? Even I haven't been monitoring that, so how can a third-party like you know?

As for saying a two word domain is difficult to remember - it's worth bearing in mind that you are on a site that is essentially three words (Go Fuck Yourself), so your comment there also bears little truth, but then again, whether or not something is easy to remember is a very subjective thing.

[tunafox]

I can register the new domain name cleantgp.BIZ at ipower for $2.95 - So your cleantgp.ORG would have to be worth the leapfish domain estimate of $264 to $11,616.

Also I did a leapfish analysis of domain cleantgp.BIZ and it is worth $219 to $7,994 so maybe I should register it at ipower and sell it on here for at least $75! Definately some money in it for someone.

Is cleantgp two words? I did not know tgp was a word, more an abbreviation of thumbnail gallery post, so wouldn't that make four words?

Seriously dude there is no type in traffic for that domain, stop kidding yourself. BTW Typein traffic is not bookmarked traffic.

[testpie]

I can register the new domain name cleantgp.BIZ at ipower for $2.95 - So your cleantgp.ORG would have to be worth the leapfish domain estimate of $264 to $11,616.

Also I did a leapfish analysis of domain cleantgp.BIZ and it is worth $219 to $7,994 so maybe I should register it at ipower and sell it on here for at least $75! Definately some money in it for someone.

Is cleantgp two words? I did not know tgp was a word, more an abbreviation of thumbnail gallery post, so wouldn't that make four words?

Seriously dude there is no type in traffic for that domain, stop kidding yourself. BTW Typein traffic is not bookmarked traffic.

Well it's nice that you've picked me as a random target to pick on - it is much appreciated.

Yes, the Leapfish analysis is rough - but would your cleantgp.biz have been developed into a TGP, had any PHP scripting work done to it, or promoted at all?

So you are honestly telling me you cannot remember the string TGP, when most porn surfers learn what this means upon their first encounters into the world of online pornography? That argument holds about as much water as saying gambling players might confuse "chip" to the "Fish and Chip" variety...

Had you cared to read my above post, you'd have seen that i said the logging software does NOT log type-ins, so accusing me of saying i am using bookmarks as type-ins is bullshit - and once again, how can you know that there is no type-in traffic if i don't know? Did you transform into my server last night and monitor yourself?

Please, do continue to scathe my sale for no reason - what comes around goes around, boyo, and you had no prior provocation to do this.

[thebigstorm]

leapfish is a joke, if you are basing the value of your site off that site, you need to rethink your options

[madko]

are u interested in trading your tgp with some design services?

[testpie]

are u interested in trading your tgp with some design services?

I'd much more prefer the cash.

[Relish XXX]

ok your script when pear shaped when I tried to do :

you just got another bookmarker to cleantgp...ME!

[Relish XXX]

Just figured out what it is. You cant use img on this forum.

[testpie]

Bump for some offers of cash - just post it here.

[FrankHolland]

$75 ... you give that to me and I'll think about taking over your site.

[testpie]

$75 ... you give that to me and I'll think about taking over your site.

What exactly makes it so bad then, considering there are much crapper domain-only deals that are selling on GFY?

[Juilan]

You'd be better off keeping it as an example of your CMS and selling your CMS to people repeatedly starting now.

[testpie]

You'd be better off keeping it as an example of your CMS and selling your CMS to people repeatedly starting now.

While that is a very good idea, i'd rather sell that whole lot as a package as soon as possible, so that i've got some funding to concentrate on other projects.

[tunafox]

Dude, believe it or not I am actually trying to help you. Perhaps it is time to listen to what other people are saying if you want to be successful in this biz.

The thing everyone is trying to tell you is that your site is worth very little in it's current state, now that being said if you spend some time on it and listen to peoples recommendations then you will be well on your way to getting somewhere.

Now don't take this personally but anyone with a half decent knowledge of tgp scripts could replicate your site using free tools in around an hour or so. Now taking that into consideration maybe you can understand why no one is interested in purchasing your tgp.

[testpie]

Dude, believe it or not I am actually trying to help you. Perhaps it is time to listen to what other people are saying if you want to be successful in this biz.

The thing everyone is trying to tell you is that your site is worth very little in it's current state, now that being said if you spend some time on it and listen to peoples recommendations then you will be well on your way to getting somewhere.

Now don't take this personally but anyone with a half decent knowledge of tgp scripts could replicate your site using free tools in around an hour or so. Now taking that into consideration maybe you can understand why no one is interested in purchasing your tgp.

The thing is that i'd like the funding as soon as possible, so although i realise the site could be developed more (as could any site), i'd rather sell it now for slightly less and give somebody else the opportunity to develop it, so that i can continue with my other projects.

[HadesPass]

For whatever it's worth I came here with 9 developed TGP sites on old domains that were all PR3 with lots of Google links and each site had a custom built very clean professional looking template. I had all kinds of low ball offers from $50-$100. A few were more serious than that but in the end I decided to keep and develop them myself.

At the end of the day it's not about what the site(s) should be worth or how much time you've put into them, it's only about what someone is willing to pay.

Also, GFY isn't the best place to sell your stuff.

Not knocking GFY. This is still my board of choice and I post my domains and such here too. But you might have better luck if you venture beyond GFY with your sale.

[tunafox]

No one is going to give you anything for your site in the state it is in.

[testpie]

Alright - you win. I'll spend some more time devloping it instead.

[tunafox]

Hey man, I noticed you fixed the irregular sized images and table spacers and it looks heaps better.

Just a few more pointers:
Make the image borders 1px solid rather than dashed.

Make the image tables fixed width or get it sorted so that there is not an unequal number of images in the last row of each image table.

Eg. When I look at it at my screen resolution I have 3 rows of 9 images and 3 images in the final row. Now my screen resolution is irrelevent, but your tables need to have an even number of images in each row.

It is probably also a good idea to stop everything jumping around when the page loads. Should be simple to fix, just add width and height attributes to the img tags.

You should also get rid of the text: "Welcome fans of porn!" it is just a space waster and is un-necessary. It also detracts from your main site heading.

Make all clicks on images open up in a new browser window.

Signup with a few more different sponsors that have good hosted picture galleries to add some variety for your surfers.

Do those few things and you will have a good looking clean tgp

[testpie]

Hey man, I noticed you fixed the irregular sized images and table spacers and it looks heaps better.

Just a few more pointers:
Make the image borders 1px solid rather than dashed.

Make the image tables fixed width or get it sorted so that there is not an unequal number of images in the last row of each image table.

Eg. When I look at it at my screen resolution I have 3 rows of 9 images and 3 images in the final row. Now my screen resolution is irrelevent, but your tables need to have an even number of images in each row.

It is probably also a good idea to stop everything jumping around when the page loads. Should be simple to fix, just add width and height attributes to the img tags.

You should also get rid of the text: "Welcome fans of porn!" it is just a space waster and is un-necessary. It also detracts from your main site heading.

Make all clicks on images open up in a new browser window.

Signup with a few more different sponsors that have good hosted picture galleries to add some variety for your surfers.

Do those few things and you will have a good looking clean tgp

Thanks for the tips - i've taken nearly all of them onboard, apart from the fixed image tables, as this would just mean lots of whitespace for those with a resolution of higher than 800 * 600 (this is the most common lowest resolution, hence any fixed-width sites must cater for it).

[tenderobject]

Hey man, I noticed you fixed the irregular sized images and table spacers and it looks heaps better.

Just a few more pointers:
Make the image borders 1px solid rather than dashed.

Make the image tables fixed width or get it sorted so that there is not an unequal number of images in the last row of each image table.

Eg. When I look at it at my screen resolution I have 3 rows of 9 images and 3 images in the final row. Now my screen resolution is irrelevent, but your tables need to have an even number of images in each row.

It is probably also a good idea to stop everything jumping around when the page loads. Should be simple to fix, just add width and height attributes to the img tags.

You should also get rid of the text: "Welcome fans of porn!" it is just a space waster and is un-necessary. It also detracts from your main site heading.

Make all clicks on images open up in a new browser window.

Signup with a few more different sponsors that have good hosted picture galleries to add some variety for your surfers.

Do those few things and you will have a good looking clean tgp

what he said!

when you have developed you cms don't forget to give us a free copy

i have a question do you need to update the site evryday or you can set how many galls you can show on the mainpage for each day or is it rotating? would be nice if its rotating so you don't need t update it everyday and put galleries. might put all your sponsors galls and stuff sign on more sponsors with the same quality galls that you have right now.

[tunafox]

I just looked at your site and it is looking good, really good. Now buy some choker traffic and set traffic to a consistant rate every day, get a few trades and you will be well on your way to making your first sale.

[testpie]

what he said!

when you have developed you cms don't forget to give us a free copy

i have a question do you need to update the site evryday or you can set how many galls you can show on the mainpage for each day or is it rotating? would be nice if its rotating so you don't need t update it everyday and put galleries. might put all your sponsors galls and stuff sign on more sponsors with the same quality galls that you have right now.

Will do .

At the moment it already randomly rotates galleries to prevent stagnation, but obviously the more galleries you add, the more random it will get - which leads to it being much fresher than the traditional "daily add" TGPs.

I just looked at your site and it is looking good, really good. Now buy some choker traffic and set traffic to a consistant rate every day, get a few trades and you will be well on your way to making your first sale.

Thanks very much, but i've already bought traffic from Choker for CleanTGP in the past, and other than to boost my stats for a few days, it didn't really do much for me.