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  • crazyy
    Registered User
    • Nov 2008
    • 68

    #1

    ID/ 2257 Question

    Not asking for legal advice, just people's opinion based on their experience. Is photo ID from a job acceptable as a secondary form of ID?
  • Tatiana
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2007
    • 354

    #2
    As I know, this is not acceptable, the best would be if second ID is for example drivers license.
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    • purecharlie
      Confirmed User
      • May 2009
      • 625

      #3
      Photo ID from a job? Do you mean like an employers ID card? I would say this is NOT acceptable as it has basically been produced by civilians (you could produce one yourself easily enough). Basically it should be a government document of some type which is why Drivers Licenses or Passports are the norm.

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      • NBBCash Matze
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2009
        • 1368

        #4
        Originally posted by Tatiana
        As I know, this is not acceptable, the best would be if second ID is for example drivers license.
        yes, drivers license or passport.
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        • jvela666
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          • Jul 2007
          • 169

          #5
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          • lacuna
            Confirmed User
            • Mar 2006
            • 1950

            #6
            According to the law and regulations, the ID must be government issued:

            The picture identification card must be issued by a United States or State government entity for any performer who is an American citizen, whether the production occurs in the United States or abroad. A producer abroad may rely on foreign government identification cards for foreign performers, but must maintain a copy of that identification. Producers may not rely on a foreign identification card for a foreign citizen when production occurs in the United States, but must check a United States identification card in that circumstance.
            See 56 FR 77437
            • Click here for full-text of applicable laws and regulations.
            • Click here for summaries.
            • Click here for official DOJ FAQ.


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            • crazyy
              Registered User
              • Nov 2008
              • 68

              #7
              Thank you for all the posters who took the time to offer their opinion. I am still slightly confused though. Lucky I only deal with a limited number of models on a ongoing basis so its not a big deal.

              Going back to my original question. I understand a primary id must be government issued. The question pertains more to whether a secondary id is meant to supplement a primary (in which case an employee id would be acceptable) or actually be a substitute for a primary id (in which case it must also be government issued).

              Like everyone should I ask for divers license/ state id and passport. But not everyone has a passport and honestly I would rather have a secondary photo id from an known legit employer or university rather than a social security card with no photo.

              Like I said, thank you to all posters (especially lacuna for the links). I prefer to ask these questions before I actually end up in a situation rather than after.

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              • lacuna
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2006
                • 1950

                #8
                While most producers ask performers to provide a secondary ID, the law and regulations do not require you to do so. Reviewing a secondary ID is more a tool for you to use to verify that the primary ID is legitimate. With that in mind, any picture ID should serve this purpose, whether it be from a school, employer, or whatnot. The key criteria here is whether it makes you the producer comfortable in relying on the performer's primary government-issued ID.

                I advise my clients to have their performers sign an affidavit whereby they swear that their identification document(s) are legitimate. You can view and/or download copies here.

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                • pornlaw
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1902

                  #9
                  You dont need any secondary ID. And unless the first ID is written in crayon, you can rely on it. At a winter XBiz 2 yrs ago, the agent in charge of inspections indicated that unless a producer has reason to suspect the first ID is false the FBI will not hold that producer responsible if the ID is fake.

                  Nor would a liquor store be held responsible for a solid fake ID. People in this industry go way beyond with what is required by law.
                  Michael

                  www.AdultBizLaw.com

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                  • brassmonkey
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                    • Sep 2005
                    • 77396

                    #10
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