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[NLCash]

Hi all,

I'm new as you can tell but have been reading for the last couple years.

Anyhow, I have a few bucks to spend in the online adult biz and was thinking of paying a few models and escorts (of certain niches) to let me shoot some video footage so I can provide content. My question is, would that be a lucrative way to get into the business if marketed right?

Also, how much is exclusive rights for a 30 min video going these days?

Thanks in advance...

[Spunky]

Welcome to the board

[Kristian]

Welcome - now go fuck yourself!

[BOSS1]

welcome... it all depsnds on quality of model/ acts performed/ quality of film and production

[zand_stein]

Welcome to the board ......
hope to enjoy the forum......

[NLCash]

Thanks gus

[da man]

you're gonna need best of luck

[kazper]

Welcome to the board and good luck with your original content!

[martinsc]

welcome

[kesey]

Hey There,

You'll notice no one answered your questions because the answers are not easy. Here's a couple suggestions:

As for filming escorts and and models . . . if the models have a niche, that might work, from toe sucking to hair combing, there's a fetish out there that sells. But it's hard to sell it because there's already so much out there. So you might want to make a small investement, shoot a scene, then go to AEBN and see if they will put it on their site. They will post 30 minutes clips, but you don't get paid unless people download and view them. It works for some people.

Suggestion 2: If you know a stripper, an escort, or a nasty girl with an MBA, let her do your marketing. Film her. Create a site for her. Get her, really her, to answer e-mails. Give her business cards and T-Shirts. Get her to bring the guys in. It will take a long time even then, but you have a much better chance of getting people to dish out cash if they get to interact with your talent.

Suggestion 3: Find someone else who has cash and expertise and split the cost of doing a site and doing the work.

I have no idea what exclusive rights for a video goes for these days because DVD distributors are swamped with content they can't sell and I don't even bother contacting them. Web sites will pay a producer for shooting a custom scene, but they generally pay established guys who have been doing it for a long time, who have studios, and can hire top talent.

Kesey Seven
Anal

[Cash]

Welcome to GFY

[alexxx]

escorts & strippers = unreliable... especially if they are meth heads...

welcome to gfy & good luck

[kesey]

escorts & strippers = unreliable... especially if they are meth heads...

welcome to gfy & good luck

LOL. Couldn't agree more. Go with the nasty girl with an MBA. I'll tell you who is the biggest turn on I've worked with lately: Fucking Harmony Rose. She's the real deal: Smart, beautiful, tough, easy to work with, and loves, just loves to fuck. The dream site would be to find a girl like Harmony and have her be your main talent, interact with the customers, and whatnot. Here's a promo of the shoot we did:

Harmony Rose: The Pussy Handshake

Kesey Seven
www.webelez.com

[VTcash]

welcome to GFY

[million]

Welcom to GFY and good luck!

[JustDaveXxx]

I shoot custom exclusive content. I have been shooting for 6 years. its expensive.

female talent: $900-$1100 for B/g
male talent:$500-$900 depending on the guy.. John strong cost me $900 to pound ashly jenson and stephenie cane in a 2 on 1 scene. He was way worth it! 45 minutes strait!! 1 cut and every angle he gave me was very open. then you have location fees, $100 an hour if you got a good guy your out in 2 hours. Stills photographer, $250-$500 per shoot. u need good stills for your box cover or for your website. Stills sale everything! he will bring in Strobe gear for the box shots and a be very proficient at hardcore stills. and there is a trick to shooting hard cores. face,open eyes, and penetration or just penetration in every shot. and keep the man ass out of the pics!!

then you need to have a competent director and he costs $500-$1500 or all your money is a waste!! every body thinks its easy. its not!! every single thing that happens in the scene, i mean everything!! every position, every story line in the scene is from the mind of the director!! Its hard! Steven Speilberg would fuck it up! its not like shooting and indy move. everything is hand held. and you will fuck away a lot of money learning.. trust me.. not trying to scare, just inform.

ashly jenson: $1100
agency fee: $100

stephenie cain: $1000
agency fee: $100

john strong:$900.. well worth it!!

Location: $200

make up: $150 per girl. Trust me, u need make up!!

PA: $100. need a personal assistant to help with moving gear around or u will pay another $100 per hour for long load in and load out.

I'm the director and the photographer.

My client paid me just under $5,000 for that particular scene. It was top notch on everything and exclusive. he got all of the 2257's and model releases, tapes and photo disks.

In short it is very expensive worth it if u have the money but i would recommend buy recycled content to start and use your time and effort building a good cash program until u can afford custom content shooters.

Dave

Kesey i like what you have to say on everything.. But i will disagree on partnering up with any porn chick on any site!! they are all very nuts and think they are worth way more than they are!! at the end, they will never finish what they start and will seriously let you down at a greater expense than doing it on your own.. I know this because i see it day in and day out. I deal with girls and shooters all day. girls talking about firing there web-masters and shooters getting flaked on with content trade shoots.

any further questions ask me anytime..

Dave

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[JustDaveXxx]

Fun stuff...

[dakota1358]

Welcome to GFY

[rayadp05]

I have been shooting my own exclusive content for nearly 4 years now for my paysite and I have always paid $100 for b/g scenes. As far as the male talent, that has always been myself so I have never had to pay any male performers. I have a few guys that shoot the b/g scenes for me and a few of them are willing to shoot for free.....but a couple of them charge $30 per scene. I make everything back that I spend within half a day with new signups to the site so it's no big issue for me.

I have never paid a competent director (as JustDaveXXx stated in his post) and as far as the location, I have always shot in my own home so no location fees either. Not to mention, I have shot nearly 300 girls and have only had approximately 6 of them to ask me to up the rates.

I don't bother with agencys either. Why pay someone to hook you up with a girl to shoot when you can just go out in public and pick them up yourself? It sounds a little difficult but believe me....90% of the girls on my site were approached by myself and asked to model for the site. Alot of them accepted the invitation....and alot of them did not. (And yes, I update my site every single week with new and fresh female talent.)

Bottom line....if you want to avoid agency fees....you need to go out and bust your ass and part of that involves taking risks as far as the girls shutting you down. If a girl shuts you down...no worries. There are plenty of them out there! Just do not remain in the same location for too long....otherwise, you may have security called on you if you are working in a public facility such as a shopping mall or a place that is similiar to that.

As far as the photographer costs, I shoot all of my own content so I do not need to pay for the solo nude modeling stills. The makeup costs?....I shoot the girls just as they are once they arrive at my house so I have never paid to get a girl to put on makeup. And that leads me to the conclusion of my post.....

I respect what JustDaveXXx is saying but I think that he is making this out to be alot more than it really is. In my personal opinion, he is paying WAY too much....but then again, maybe he specializes in content that I do not specialize in shooting....and the type of content does matter. I shoot amateur shit. If you are shooting "porn stars" or "playboy" shit then you WILL pay alot more than what I pay but I guess the reason why it works for me is because I shoot full on amateur girls and that type of particular content matches my websites niche. Some of the girls are totally hot....and some of them are totally not. You see the girls exactly as they are once they appear at my house for the shoot. So again, the rates as far as paying performers depend on the type of content that you shoot.

As far as your question if whether or not this a lucrative way to get into the business if marketed right.....sure, it definately can be...but you need to know what you are doing. I don't sell any of the content that I shoot as it is all copyrighted and exclusive to my site but either way...whether your shooting for your own paysite or shooting content for resell (which is what I understand that you want to do from your post)....it still depends on the type of content and the girls that you are shooting....(porn star girls = more money....amateur girls = less money).....And the amateur niche is a damn good niche to be involved with since alot people are into the real looking "girl next door" type of look....and I don't mean that fake playboy "girl next door" shit either.

Good luck to you bro...

[Mickey Mouse]

Escorts and strippers are the worst and I think you'll soon realize that. People automatically think of them, but they are more difficult to work with and will want more money on top of that. I've been traveling overseas for almost 6 years now, so I'm a bit out of touch, but I'm from the States. When I was there shooting, models were traveling around the country and would contact all studios in towns they'd be in prior to arriving. I'm sure things are the same and that you can get your name on that list.

We also placed ads in newspapers seeking models which really worked well for us. We'd shoot the pros too, but I found that never-before-seen gals sold much better for us and were a hell of a lot cheaper. This was many years ago, but we paid $100 per hour for solo work, $150 per model for girl-girl, and $300 per hour for boy/girl. Add an extra $50 per hour if anal was involved. Add an extra $100 for each additional guy doing her. The guys we paid $50 period as our customers didn't care who the guy was just as long as there was one. We had two really ugly guys that I doubled their pay to $100 per shoot because they always performed well. Doesn't matter what the guy looked like and actually the uglier the better as customers liked seeing an ugly dude scoring with a hot chick. Yet, while it wasn't important for us what he looked like, his performance was always important because a bad performing guy sure can ruin the shoot--the woman can fake it, but the guy can't. You'll find that "most" guys can't perform with all the people watching and directing. The ALL say they can, but most won't be able to.

If the model was from Cali they'd get pissed when we talked per hour (because they felt their way of doing things was the only way and the right way) so we'd pay them per day or weekend. That rate would generally be between $900 for a day and up to $2000 for a 2-day weekend. Most we ever paid a pro was $2000 for a day, most were ok with less. We had a very nice studio with private room, jacuzzi, etc so we had the models stay there which saved on us paying for them a room. Some of the Cali brats we'd put up in hotels though.

I'm traveling now and I pay 3rd world rates which I am too embarrassed to tell you about.

Just keep in mind that being a primary producer sucks. It's a lot of work, and even more risk.

[rayadp05]

And just to let you know....when I shoot, I always shoot a minimum of 2-3 hours of solo nude modeling...which is $100 per hour and at times, a b/g scene which is also $100 per hour. That's $300-$400 that I make back within half the day (not including affilate sales and signups from my own doing as far as promoting) so.....the amateur niche....definatley a way to go.

[JustDaveXxx]

Rayadp05.. You are very right on what you say.. I give numbers on the higher end. when a client wants particular girls i shoot there requests.

Harmony cost $1300 for a DP. La Direct set her rate. I will shoot 2-5 scenes a day and if i tried to go around the agents i would get band from booking from them. When ur shooting as much as i shoot agents are very good. they guarantee that they show up on time an knowing what's expected of them. someone like me who works everyday shooting doesn't have the time to find new girls. and if i tried going around LA direct or gold-star I would get black listed. That would kill me. They have about 200 girls combined. i have scene it happened to other shooters. I have shoots that were given to me as a result of a shooter being black listed from La direct. Off subject a bit but good information to take into account.

and as for guys. girls sell the scene and guys drive the scene. amateur guys cant do DPs. they just cant. also most amateur guys cant open up to give u the shot u need and if they can, they cant do it for long. At $500 guys around here get hard and generally keep open. u can shoot with 5 or so cuts. But at $600-$1000 guys less cuts and huge dicks. Manwell Farra, Steve Holms, Erik Everhard etc. These guys are all performer of the years. its not for there acting ability. lol. They come in and do there job and do it very well without wasting my time! especially when its a DP.

personally i rather "see" a huge dick pounding the shit out of a girl strait through relentlessly opposed to a girl getting fucked and u cant really see much. and if there is cut after cut that kinda makes me loose interest. No disrespect to anybody out there..

In my town if u can get hard and your on time, your rate will be $400-$500. Because other shooters will want to shoot the guy. its a harder job than people think. Supply and demand..

This is the down side in working in porn Valley.


Rayadp05, Much respect to you for doing what you do. I love amateur and shoot it, but i shoot it with new to the biz girls. that is my only choice. your way is defiantly better.

And much respect to everybody that does it the way Rayadp05 does it. its very hard and the risks are very high, but the rewards are great if done right. Sorry guys about the soap box stance. i just thought my experiences might help someone with there choices.

[rayadp05]

Rayadp05.. You are very right on what you say.. I give numbers on the higher end. when a client wants particular girls i shoot there requests.

Harmony cost $1300 for a DP. La Direct set her rate. I will shoot 2-5 scenes a day and if i tried to go around the agents i would get band from booking from them. When ur shooting as much as i shoot agents are very good. they guarantee that they show up on time an knowing what's expected of them. someone like me who works everyday shooting doesn't have the time to find new girls. and if i tried going around LA direct or gold-star I would get black listed. That would kill me. They have about 200 girls combined. i have scene it happened to other shooters. I have shoots that were given to me as a result of a shooter being black listed from La direct. Off subject a bit but good information to take into account.

and as for guys. girls sell the scene and guys drive the scene. amateur guys cant do DPs. they just cant. also most amateur guys cant open up to give u the shot u need and if they can, they cant do it for long. At $500 guys around here get hard and generally keep open. u can shoot with 5 or so cuts. But at $600-$1000 guys less cuts and huge dicks. Manwell Farra, Steve Holms, Erik Everhard etc. These guys are all performer of the years. its not for there acting ability. lol. They come in and do there job and do it very well without wasting my time! especially when its a DP.

personally i rather "see" a huge dick pounding the shit out of a girl strait through relentlessly opposed to a girl getting fucked and u cant really see much. and if there is cut after cut that kinda makes me loose interest. No disrespect to anybody out there..

In my town if u can get hard and your on time, your rate will be $400-$500. Because other shooters will want to shoot the guy. its a harder job than people think. Supply and demand..

This is the down side in working in porn Valley.


Rayadp05, Much respect to you for doing what you do. I love amateur and shoot it, but i shoot it with new to the biz girls. that is my only choice. your way is defiantly better.

And much respect to everybody that does it the way Rayadp05 does it. its very hard and the risks are very high, but the rewards are great if done right. Sorry guys about the soap box stance. i just thought my experiences might help someone with there choices.

Let me know if you are ever in the need for fresh male talent because I have worked for several companies doing adult videos and I can also do DP scenes. However, you are 100% correct in that alot of guys THINK that they can do it but in most cases, they just don't hold up. I have no problem keeping it hard and providing the right angle for shooting. Two of the videos that I performed in (out of about 75 of them) required me to do b/g scenes with 4 girls at once and they had to be a full 30 minute scenes with absolutely NO cuts...pulled it off just fine. These were not videos for my website either. They were jobs that I had obtained through various video production companies.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know because I am always looking for ways to further my adult acting career and I do not charge very much at all. And not only that but I would be willing to do the first video for free....just as a thank you for giving me the opportunity to show you what I can do. If you are interested then you can hit me up on ICQ at 353842428.

[Cuteshooter]

I have been shooting my own exclusive content for nearly 4 years now for my paysite and I have always paid $100 for b/g scenes. As far as the male talent, that has always been myself so I have never had to pay any male performers. I have a few guys that shoot the b/g scenes for me and a few of them are willing to shoot for free.....but a couple of them charge $30 per scene. I make everything back that I spend within half a day with new signups to the site so it's no big issue for me.

I have never paid a competent director (as JustDaveXXx stated in his post) and as far as the location, I have always shot in my own home so no location fees either. Not to mention, I have shot nearly 300 girls and have only had approximately 6 of them to ask me to up the rates.

I don't bother with agencys either. Why pay someone to hook you up with a girl to shoot when you can just go out in public and pick them up yourself? It sounds a little difficult but believe me....90% of the girls on my site were approached by myself and asked to model for the site. Alot of them accepted the invitation....and alot of them did not. (And yes, I update my site every single week with new and fresh female talent.)

Bottom line....if you want to avoid agency fees....you need to go out and bust your ass and part of that involves taking risks as far as the girls shutting you down. If a girl shuts you down...no worries. There are plenty of them out there! Just do not remain in the same location for too long....otherwise, you may have security called on you if you are working in a public facility such as a shopping mall or a place that is similiar to that.

As far as the photographer costs, I shoot all of my own content so I do not need to pay for the solo nude modeling stills. The makeup costs?....I shoot the girls just as they are once they arrive at my house so I have never paid to get a girl to put on makeup. And that leads me to the conclusion of my post.....

I respect what JustDaveXXx is saying but I think that he is making this out to be alot more than it really is. In my personal opinion, he is paying WAY too much....but then again, maybe he specializes in content that I do not specialize in shooting....and the type of content does matter. I shoot amateur shit. If you are shooting "porn stars" or "playboy" shit then you WILL pay alot more than what I pay but I guess the reason why it works for me is because I shoot full on amateur girls and that type of particular content matches my websites niche. Some of the girls are totally hot....and some of them are totally not. You see the girls exactly as they are once they appear at my house for the shoot. So again, the rates as far as paying performers depend on the type of content that you shoot.

As far as your question if whether or not this a lucrative way to get into the business if marketed right.....sure, it definately can be...but you need to know what you are doing. I don't sell any of the content that I shoot as it is all copyrighted and exclusive to my site but either way...whether your shooting for your own paysite or shooting content for resell (which is what I understand that you want to do from your post)....it still depends on the type of content and the girls that you are shooting....(porn star girls = more money....amateur girls = less money).....And the amateur niche is a damn good niche to be involved with since alot people are into the real looking "girl next door" type of look....and I don't mean that fake playboy "girl next door" shit either.

Good luck to you bro...

$100 for b/g??

Am I an idiot for paying models $35 to $50 for 10-15 minute HJ scenes???

[rayadp05]

Why would you be an idiot for paying that? I have always paid $50 for 10-15 minute HJ scenes. As far as the full sex scenes....you'd wanna pay more than that.

[Cuteshooter]

ok

Yeah, i'm starting a new project and added you as a sponsor this morning. I must say I admire your work and thanks for your post.

Raya,

do you show the girls your site? I've been showing girls at least one of my sites but in the beginning I didn't (before I had it up)....

[rayadp05]

Yeah, i'm starting a new project and added you as a sponsor this morning. I must say I admire your work and thanks for your post.

Raya,

do you show the girls your site? I've been showing girls at least one of my sites but in the beginning I didn't (before I had it up)....

Sure, I always show them the site. In alot of cases, I will give them a free username and password to the members area so that they can look at and save their pictures. I just explain to them that the content is copyrighted and that they have no rights to the pictures but that if they want to save them for their personal use then that is fine with me. I have never had a problem with providing the girls access to their pictures. I don't always give them access to the site but I will if they ask to see the pictures.

[JustDaveXxx]

rayadp05.. I love your site!! and i see your in LA. well at least your records are in LA. I can give you work. And If your decent i can get your work with all of my friends. Craven Moorehead, Rick Shameless, Hush Hush, etc. Let me know what you do and ur rate. handjobs, BJs, Rough Bjs, B/g, B/b/g, etc.

Its always good to get a good stable of studs. not all do handjobs and bj's. and fail at rough bjs. Good stuff dude!! I still so blown away on how u got so many 1st time girls. so cool!! That Rocks!

[rayadp05]

rayadp05.. I love your site!! and i see your in LA. well at least your records are in LA. I can give you work. And If your decent i can get your work with all of my friends. Craven Moorehead, Rick Shameless, Hush Hush, etc. Let me know what you do and ur rate. handjobs, BJs, Rough Bjs, B/g, B/b/g, etc.

Its always good to get a good stable of studs. not all do handjobs and bj's. and fail at rough bjs. Good stuff dude!! I still so blown away on how u got so many 1st time girls. so cool!! That Rocks!

Thank you for the compliments. I'm glad that you dig the site. I used to live in Los Angeles for 10 years but I relocated out to Florida about 3 years ago. However, I still go to Los Angeles from time to time and would like to meet with you sometime when I am out there. I have and always will shoot my own content but when I first started my site, I purchased a few small galleries from an adult content producer. That is the address that you are referring to from Los Angeles on my 2257 page.

Out of all of the girls on my site, there are only like 4 or 5 that were not shot directly by me but all of the others were and of course, the newer girls continue to be shot by me as well. I have always been very serious on keeping the site updated weekly and in the beginning stages of the site, there were a couple of weeks here and there when things were pretty dry and there was nobody to update with so that's why I bought the content. However, I have not had that problem in 3 years and the site is regularly updated with exclusive girls every single week to this day.

Anyway, I do thank you for giving me the opportunity to work for you and I will definately be in touch.

[LeRoy]

Nice site I signed up too. rayadP05. I set up some cool blogs. Oh yah the content. I am just starting out too. I have a partner that does the shooting. He is always getting new girls too. We like to keep the costs pretty low. My content provider has been in the biz for a long time. So that's a plus. I started out doing it myself . Getting the girls is a bitch. They are so flaky. If you are new then it is even harder. the total cost for a scene is 600-800. Thats just for the girl. My content provider provides his own dick so that's a plus. He also directs, shoots and edits everything. Thank God for POV .
If you are a rookie at shooting then you had better be prepared to spend some $$. Also be prepared to make no $$$ for quite some time too. I found the content provider on Craigs List . They are out there because webmasters like to cut and run on them.
So now it has been a year for me in the biz. I have spent over 10k and spent 60-80 hours a week reading threads to learn as much as I can. I have set up some blogs a fake TGP's and no $$$ yet. My pay sites aren't up yet so I really don't know whats in store for me in the future. Here is the last shoot I did for myself. My content provider charged me 500. I got a solo scene and a BJ scene.I also got to put a site reference on her Lefty's Porn Page . It's for my TGP that I want to set up.They did a bunch a good shots for box covers and freesites.The glamour pics are very important. They are your your bread and butter. I have a rookie photographer and I hate him. He sux and doesnt know shit about shooting porn. If you have a rookie lenseman. Run away from him now as he will be your demise.

[JustDaveXxx]

RAYADP05, contact me, i can get u work. I have a production company out in miami. I go back and fourth to miami. I have a particular shoot partner who left a particular company, who shoots on a particular bus. We are working on a new ass sight, and handjob site. I can pay u for male talent and scouting talent. this is no bullshit!! My partner is a bit nuts but he will make you laugh a lot. lol

d222 i like ur page good work. ur right, Photography is so important. pics are everything! my pics got me where im at now. porn photography is a unique talent.

Dave

[rayadp05]

Thank's guys for signing up with the affiliate program. I am sure that you will see very positive results from promoting my galleries. My other affiliates are doing great with turning over sales so as long as the galleries are being promoted then turning over sales should be very easy for you.

JustDaveXXx...I have added you to my ICQ contact list so I will be talking with you later. Thank's again bro....

[kesey]

I
Kesey i like what you have to say on everything.. But i will disagree on partnering up with any porn chick on any site!! they are all very nuts and think they are worth way more than they are!! at the end, they will never finish what they start and will seriously let you down at a greater expense than doing it on your own.. I know this because i see it day in and day out. I deal with girls and shooters all day. girls talking about firing there web-masters and shooters getting flaked on with content trade shoots.

any further questions ask me anytime..

Dave

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Hey, man, that made me laugh. But in all fairness: Katja Kassin is not nuts; she's clean, sober, smart, totally on the level. Harmony is steady as a rock. Amber Rayne is a really cool chick, too. And Sandra Romain, hell, I'd like to marry her. But, yeah, your point is well taken. It would be tricky to team up with a model. I guess I'm just wishing. I always think about Heather at www.ideepthroat.com. I'm pretty sure they've done very well because Heather did the live webcams and answered customer e-mails. Do I know you, Dave? I'll be shooting in LA in a week or two . . . through the green door, up the stairs, red door on the left -- ring a bell? Just kiddin. I know there's a lot of studios.

Later.

Kesey
www.webelez.com

[JustDaveXxx]

I love amber.. she is a sweet heart.. Kaja, i have been shooting scenes for her site for ama Joe. shes way cool. But doing business with most girls is like having a bad girlfriend. I tried it way back in the day with courtny cums and Taryn thomas.. we are still really good friends, but talk about a waste of time and money!! I learned a lot with those 2. it wasn't super bad, i was smart enough to killed both projects before i could have really been fucked over!!

as far as do u know me?? Im the buff guy that hangs out with Craven Moorehead, rick shamless and alan eigan. we are the crazy fuckers in the corner..lol

contact me when u come into town.. [email protected]

[gwkg]

rayadp05, mikey mouse and cuteshooter:

Can you please post a pic or 2 so I can see what the girls look like that fuck for 100, give hand jobs for 35 and do anal for 350 on video?!?!

What city are you guys shooting in?

[rayadp05]

rayadp05, mikey mouse and cuteshooter:

Can you please post a pic or 2 so I can see what the girls look like that fuck for 100, give hand jobs for 35 and do anal for 350 on video?!?!

What city are you guys shooting in?

Just click onto the picture in my sig and that will take you to my site. There are plenty of pictures of the girls on my tour pages. However, keep in mind that most of these girls are NOT experienced porn industry girls. $100 per hour sounds pretty good to them since alot of them are making $200 per week working at burger joints and places that are similiar to that. The more experienced the female talent is, the more money you are going to pay. Girls that have never done anything at all in the industry and that are working for $7.00 per hour just to help pay the rent....less money. And of course, looks have nothing to do with this....all types of girls need money....hot looking or not....and since I specialize in shooting many different types of amateur girls, that works out fine for what I am doing.

But again, it is important to remember that these are girls that were approached by myself at shopping malls, amusement parks, movie theaters....real amateur girls who have no experience whatsoever in the adult industry so these are not porn star girls that are used to shooting all of the time for higher rates. There are a few girls on my site that have worked for the industry but again....this is a very small percentage. I would say that about 90% of them are VERY amateur girls that I have met out in public and have come to know on a friendship basis.