How do YOU optimize for search engines?

[Bozena X]

I know relatively what it means, BUT I don't have any experience with it. So before I randomly click on links on how to SEO my porn site, do you fellas know of any good tutorials or articles on the topic, if not would somebody be neighborly enough to help me understand? Any help is as always greatly appreciated.

[Dynamix]

Here's what I do when building a new site and optimizing it for SE's:

1) Organize a list of keywords that I want to focus on.
For a restaurant in town here I chose cafe,restaurant,bistro,duluth,minnesota,lake,view.
For a lawfirm: attorney,law,lawyer,trial,case,injury,sue
For my design site: tgp,design,templates,pre-made,cartoon,css,comus

2) Use those keywords prevalently in your site, META tags, and title
My meta tags include each of the keywords I focus on, then after those I add more specific keywords. The title is packed with relevant keywords. Paragraphs of copy include the keywords. Link text includes the keywords. Headers on the page (<H1></H1> tags) include the keywords. Make sure they're EVERYWHERE.

3) Get in-bound links
If you have other sites, link to your new site. Ask friends to link to your site. Add your site to directories. Every time you link to your homepage, do so via the full URL instead of just /index.html.

4) Enhance your site with Google Analytics
If you haven't heard of Analytics, research it. It's an invaluable tool that allows you to see, among other things, how people found your page and which visitors visit which pages. You need only add a small Javascript snippet to each page. Following the paths of your surfers will allow you to update your keywords and structure your site based upon their tendencies.

5) Create and submit a sitemap
Google Sitemaps allows you to tell the google spiders what pages are in your site, how important they are, and when they were last modified. Do a google search for 'sitemaps' or 'sitemap generator' and I'm sure you'll find loads of information on how to use the service.

6) Update regularly (or trick the search engines into thinking you do)
Search engines tend to like pages that are updated often. Make changes to your site as regularly as you can. I put a small timestamp on my sites using PHP that says "This page last updated " followed by the date and time the page was accessed.

7) Sit back and wait.
In my own PERSONAL experience, letting Google and other search engines "find" your site is more beneficial than submitting to their database. Once your site is online with other sites linking to it and a sitemap submitted, it shouldn't be more than a few days before you're listed. IF you aren't listed within a few weeks, then submit away - but leave that as a last resort.

[free4porn]

good advice dynamix

[HouseHead]

Pick out your Keywords and work with them, traffic from SE doesnt come all at once, it does take time. A good Traffic counter is a Must, find one with a 'came from' section and other SEO options.. It will help you out. ICQ if you have any questions

[Bozena X]

Invaluable information, thank you all.

[Marco Porno]

So Dynamix, you're saying using the old school: <H1></H1> tags does help in SE ?? Does it help to simply have bold text instead?

[Dynamix]

So Dynamix, you're saying using the old school: <H1></H1> tags does help in SE ?? Does it help to simply have bold text instead?

Absolutely - if you give emphasis to the keywords, the search engines notice

[baX]

Dynamix said it all in 7 easy steps

[Juilan]

Here's what I do when building a new site and optimizing it for SE's:

1) Organize a list of keywords that I want to focus on.
For a restaurant in town here I chose cafe,restaurant,bistro,duluth,minnesota,lake,view.
For a lawfirm: attorney,law,lawyer,trial,case,injury,sue
For my design site: tgp,design,templates,pre-made,cartoon,css,comus

2) Use those keywords prevalently in your site, META tags, and title
My meta tags include each of the keywords I focus on, then after those I add more specific keywords. The title is packed with relevant keywords. Paragraphs of copy include the keywords. Link text includes the keywords. Headers on the page (<H1></H1> tags) include the keywords. Make sure they're EVERYWHERE.

3) Get in-bound links
If you have other sites, link to your new site. Ask friends to link to your site. Add your site to directories. Every time you link to your homepage, do so via the full URL instead of just /index.html.

4) Enhance your site with Google Analytics
If you haven't heard of Analytics, research it. It's an invaluable tool that allows you to see, among other things, how people found your page and which visitors visit which pages. You need only add a small Javascript snippet to each page. Following the paths of your surfers will allow you to update your keywords and structure your site based upon their tendencies.

5) Create and submit a sitemap
Google Sitemaps allows you to tell the google spiders what pages are in your site, how important they are, and when they were last modified. Do a google search for 'sitemaps' or 'sitemap generator' and I'm sure you'll find loads of information on how to use the service.

6) Update regularly (or trick the search engines into thinking you do)
Search engines tend to like pages that are updated often. Make changes to your site as regularly as you can. I put a small timestamp on my sites using PHP that says "This page last updated " followed by the date and time the page was accessed.

7) Sit back and wait.
In my own PERSONAL experience, letting Google and other search engines "find" your site is more beneficial than submitting to their database. Once your site is online with other sites linking to it and a sitemap submitted, it shouldn't be more than a few days before you're listed. IF you aren't listed within a few weeks, then submit away - but leave that as a last resort.

Nice workflow post Dynamix.

Additionally I use IBP for optimizing pages and competition. Agree on submitting to major SE's only as a last resort.

[clickricky]

about your point 7) sitback and wait
why do say to let the SE find your site? cause I have been doing research on this subjects for weeks now, readding site, book, SEO companies etc and they to submit your site,
are you saying that for the adult site or wesite in general?

[Dynamix]

about your point 7) sitback and wait
why do say to let the SE find your site? cause I have been doing research on this subjects for weeks now, readding site, book, SEO companies etc and they to submit your site,
are you saying that for the adult site or wesite in general?

Found this on the web, it sums the theory up for the most part:

Unless today is your very first day on the Internet, you might have heard that inbound links into a website are extremely important in establishing its search engine ranking. If a search engine can't find you by itself through crawling the web, then your website doesn't have any inbound links. If so, you'll never achieve a decent search engine ranking so what's the point in registering?

Like I said, that was just something I realized in my own personal experience. The difference between sites I've submitted by hand to Google, sites that I've submitted using an auto-submit service, and sites that I've let Google find - is huge.. Google has given more importance to the sites it has found itself time and time again (in my own experience).

[fetishblog]

www.masterstats.com is a free stats site that has a good SE Stats section that shows which Engines they came from and the search queries used in getting to your site!

[CyberHustler]

IBP 9.0 <--DOWNLOAD THAT AND REGISTER!

[Bozena X]

could I expect much se traffic for my new site www.porncapitalist.com ? Probably not I am assuming because I only service oversaturated niches. And have I used too many keywords in the meta, I heard there is a thing as too much?

[Chr0makey]

Great post Dynamix

[AV9898]

Here's what I do when building a new site and optimizing it for SE's:

1) Organize a list of keywords that I want to focus on.
For a restaurant in town here I chose cafe,restaurant,bistro,duluth,minnesota,lake,view.
For a lawfirm: attorney,law,lawyer,trial,case,injury,sue
For my design site: tgp,design,templates,pre-made,cartoon,css,comus

2) Use those keywords prevalently in your site, META tags, and title
My meta tags include each of the keywords I focus on, then after those I add more specific keywords. The title is packed with relevant keywords. Paragraphs of copy include the keywords. Link text includes the keywords. Headers on the page (<H1></H1> tags) include the keywords. Make sure they're EVERYWHERE.

3) Get in-bound links
If you have other sites, link to your new site. Ask friends to link to your site. Add your site to directories. Every time you link to your homepage, do so via the full URL instead of just /index.html.

4) Enhance your site with Google Analytics
If you haven't heard of Analytics, research it. It's an invaluable tool that allows you to see, among other things, how people found your page and which visitors visit which pages. You need only add a small Javascript snippet to each page. Following the paths of your surfers will allow you to update your keywords and structure your site based upon their tendencies.

5) Create and submit a sitemap
Google Sitemaps allows you to tell the google spiders what pages are in your site, how important they are, and when they were last modified. Do a google search for 'sitemaps' or 'sitemap generator' and I'm sure you'll find loads of information on how to use the service.

6) Update regularly (or trick the search engines into thinking you do)
Search engines tend to like pages that are updated often. Make changes to your site as regularly as you can. I put a small timestamp on my sites using PHP that says "This page last updated " followed by the date and time the page was accessed.

7) Sit back and wait.
In my own PERSONAL experience, letting Google and other search engines "find" your site is more beneficial than submitting to their database. Once your site is online with other sites linking to it and a sitemap submitted, it shouldn't be more than a few days before you're listed. IF you aren't listed within a few weeks, then submit away - but leave that as a last resort.

Well done by Dynamix.
I append something:

1. Add this tags into your <head>
<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="ALL">
<META name="SPIDERS" content="ALL">
<META NAME="REVISIT-AFTER" CONTENT="2 DAYS">
Search engine uses robots and spiders to access your site. These tags will help you. Let they come every 2 days.

2. Add niche on your keywords like japanese-idol, japanese-adult-gallery... They are got high score then normal keywods.

3. Get in-bound and out-bound traffic. The best is the same niche traffic. Don't link to the different niche sites. Remember add your link in your posts here. You will get much in-bound traffic from boards.

4. Search engines like words but not pictures so you should write more words on your site. Add hyperlink on any keywords and add keywords on picture 'alt' tag will get plus.

5. Also keywords in your URL. Use static folder name rather than a dynamic path. For example /start'sname/start'sname.php. Remenber to focus in 3 layer. SE won't keep the records after 4th layer as I know.

6.You can also add many repeat keywords in your HTML as remark. User won't see the remark area in HTML but SE will.

7. In my experience check your rank in search engine every 2 monthes is enough.

[Bozena X]

copy that av9898, making changes now. Any specific ideas on how best to keyword my site seeing how it has generic niches? the site is www.porncapitalist.com

[AV9898]

copy that av9898, making changes now. Any specific ideas on how best to keyword my site seeing how it has generic niches? the site is www.porncapitalist.com

Once you built a site you should decide it by yourself. If I can figure out a good niche and keywords I will built a site quickly and I won't tell anybody
Just try to think more about your site. I never say it's easy because there are tons of sites in this field. Good luck.

[bdld]

and of course never forget that incoming links is by far the most important factor when it comes to ranking well in google.

[StarkReality]

Right, it's all about incoming non-reciprocal links (A->B->C triangle link trades) with your keywords in the anchor text.

It's sad, but as far as google is concerned, your success depends 95% on the links pointing to your site and 5% for on-page optimization.

[thebossxxx]

good solid info...

[Pedronas]

keywords and lots of backlinks

[martinsc]

great thread
lots of info here...

hint: don't forget the other search engines... google is not the only one....

[leftybogs]

i recommend link building, in other words advertise your site by joining forums, yahoo grroups, creating blogs, articles about your site.. create a link to your site or exchange links to other site.. let people know that your web site exist.....good luck!!!

[VicD]

use a linkdumpsubmitter to create back links

[AZNNC]

how do you guys deal with google sandbox? nothing to do but wait?

[AZNNC]

use a linkdumpsubmitter to create back links

Where do you find these? Are there any free ones?

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

5. Also keywords in your URL. Use static folder name rather than a dynamic path. For example /start'sname/start'sname.php. Remenber to focus in 3 layer. SE won't keep the records after 4th layer as I know.

i'm not sure i understand what you're getting at in this point. are you saying as opposed to mydomain.com/thispage.php i should layer up directories with keywords in them like so? mydomain.com/keywordhere/thispagewithkeyword.php?

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

oh, and how many keywords in my metatags are too many?

[peeperpimp]

oh, and how many keywords in my metatags are too many?

no more than 30 would be a good amount...

[DjSap]

thanks for all the information, really useful thread...

[Dynamix]

Where do you find these? Are there any free ones?

Aqua's may still be around but most have died off. I'll be re-vamping mine (LinkWhore) shortly and re-releasing it

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

no more than 30 would be a good amount...

would i be wrong in believing that using less keywords, and more targeted keywords i would be at an advantage? or can i pile 30 in there without making a difference?...

[Bozena X]

would i be wrong in believing that using less keywords, and more targeted keywords i would be at an advantage? or can i pile 30 in there without making a difference?...

I have heard that less and more targeted keywords are better. When I spy on the source of some of the bigger websites around, I never see more than say 5-10 keywords. But then again they are allready huge websites, so I wonder if it's advantageous for a smaller one to generalize mroe? But in the end its all about those who link to your website is what it seems, so I guess I should concentrate more on that

[porn blogger]

do what I do and write google love letters every valentines day, and if you're lucky enough to share a birthday with google, like I am. Give them all of the gifts that you recieve for your birthday...

you REALLY need to grease em up.

[boobshare]

So Dynamix, you're saying using the old school: <H1></H1> tags does help in SE ?? Does it help to simply have bold text instead?

If you don't want the huge default font you can easily modify it with some CSS... this example goes inline in your <head> section

<style TYPE="text/css">
<!--
H1 {font-size: 24pt; font-style: bold; font-family: comic sans ms, arial; margin: 2px 2px 2px;text-align: center; }
-->
</style>

[Amnesic]

I have 2 step now.

Buy a old domain with backlink.

Change the <title

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