SEO question

[gfx3]

I launched my site about 2 months back, it was easely found by all big spiders.
My site contains 4 different pages, it's a text tgp wich is the main page and most important one.
The site is updated daily and all big spiders inktomi, google, msn, baidu etc... visit my site every single day.

Google indexed all my pages but when I do a search only the irrelevant pages like advertising, send page to a friend appear in the top results.

Google doesn't seem to like my main tgp page (ok it's not search engine friendly since it has around 400 links on it) but other tgp sites like worldsex appear with their main page in the search results.

I did some studying on seo, changed my title, adjusted the key words and description. I have pages linking to me and all that.

I think my page is in the sandbox, I do get around 100 hits from google a day so that's not that bad but I think my site is quality so it should rank much better.

A mistake I made is that I registered my domain name for only 1 year, should it help me if I register it for several years now? Google won't think my site is used for spamming this way.

Is the fact that all big spiders visit my site each day a good sign for the future? Can I expect to see my site jump upwards in like 6 months or a year?

I'm not an idiot but also not an seo expert, a few pointers about the behaviour of the spiders would be welcome.
Ow yes my pr rank is 0 right now.

My personal opinion is that google just sucks big time these days, I don't like the engine like I did one year ago. If I search something all results point to ebay, kelkoo or crap directories. A year back google would lead you to the correct information. Pages that have good content but don't care about seo or don't have many sites linking to them are dropped way back in the results.
I had a non adult site and it was on 3th position for the most important keyword but after google started with all the pr crap it dropped to position 300 or lower. Still the same site with the same content


Greetings,

GFX3

[twan]

I don't think google cares or can see if you registered your domain name for 1 or 10 years.

The fact that spiders are visiting your site every day is a good sign, but you must find out what you are doing wrong or maybe what you did wrong. You might even have fixed it already. Google is a strange thing.

[gfx3]

I think google knows for how long a domain is registered. I looked at about a dozen tutorials and many time the domain registering thing was mentioned.
Google looks at this because in the past many 1 year domain were used to network a certain site so they were spam sites to hype 1 particular domain.

This seo thing goes way above my head, google labs, all those math things, stupid pr, punished if a site that google doesn't like links to you and so on.
It's just stupid the whole thing. Well I don't need google so I won't break my head on it. It seems like if you have a blog with pr5 and you sell linkspots for that blog google will punish you.
Google thinks they can build the perfect engine just by logical calculations but I think they are very wrong on that part.

I registered a domain a little time ago, not the one for my site but one that I don't use, 2 weeks later that domain showed up in google, nobody knew about it and I didn't submit it to google so google spiders all new registered domain and will also know for how long the domain is registered.

Some work on domain names was done by people on these boards, for sunporno.com but when I look at that page well it's just "free porn" advertising from the beginning to the end.

I guess I will just have to have patience and keep doing what I do now and in a year or so my site will get it's boost it deserves.

Perhaps I'm gonne score when the .eu comes out next year, will make a nice seo page then

I think that google is also behaving like this to keep it's shareholders happy, they have to maintain their image of a progressive and innovating company otherwise their shares would flunk. Google is just a script, nothing more nothing less.

Ow another thing I read, google seems to hate affiliate links and links with ?????? in it. Google gets confused by this, this also sucks when you are in this industry.

[FreeAgent]

This thread might be of some help...
http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/...ad.php?p=68395

[gfx3]

Thanks for the link, I think I will just sit it out for now and let an SEO guy look at my site in about a month or 6 from now. There are many ways to get traffic without use of the engines. I'm at around 4k uniques a day, 30% daily returns since I launched my site 7 weeks ago. Best day I had so far was 4.8K.
I'm very happy with those ratios but this is just the beginning. I'm going for quality so google or no google sooner or later the engines will appreciate my site. I don't want a hype on the site and am planning to launch my big marketing campaign in a few months.
I notice a lot of volatility lately (yesterday 600 uniques in an hour) so this indicates to me traffic will explode, I hope to get to 40k a day by november 2006, I don't know what will happen once the engines start working for me but that's for later. This week is kinda crappy because of the x-mas thing but I'm sure they will get better again after the holidays.

Greetings,

GFX3

[Goldmaniacs]

What is the site URL so people can give you more specific feedback

[josian]

i sincerly recommend you try Google Site Map Maker, it does wonders

[gfx3]

Thx for the feedback. I booked some results the past few days. Yesterday when I checked google again my SEO work paid off, google doesn't hate my main index page anymore. I found out why as well, my title was to long, it had a length of 106 characters and to be SE friendly you must stay under 80. Now my main page is right on top when I search for my domain. Still in the sandbox for keywords but the index page isn't punished anymore Google also shows my site description so no complaints about that.

I will check out the google sitemaps, did some reading already on that subject. I also submitted to DMOZ, hope they let me in, even wrote a friendly mail to the editor of the category. In the past I got listed in dmoz with a non adult site so fingers crossed.

The msn spider is also acting strange, it visits every single day but I can't find my site in the results, not even a single page.

I will keep studying on the subject, try to get on dmoz, perhaps yahoo later on, and try out the sitemaps. All little bits will help to get a higher ranking.
Trying techniques like buying an old domain, adding to subdomain to trick google could end up in a punishment sooner or later and if google drops your page because your title is a tiny bit to long it's not even worth the risk IMO.

Thanks for the help so far, if you know more about seo feel free to post as everyone can learn from eachother, seo is very complex so certain things could clear up if you talk about it, for example I know for sure now that google spiders registrar info on domain names, it pays attention if the name changes owner, for how long it's registered etc.... I'm planning to register my domain for an extra 3 years, perhaps it will benefit me.

Greetings

GFX3

[gfx3]

Ok did some checking on google sitemaps, from what I read google sitemaps only seems usefull if you have a site with over 100 pages. If this is the case the regular google spider might have problems with indexing all pages.
Mine has 4 at this moment, might grow but won't reach 100 pages any time soon.
The big downside of sitemaps is that you have to upload a recent version of the sitemap every single time you make a change to the site, in my case every day. You are forced to do this because the amount of times you change your site has an effect on your ranking. With all this said google sitemaps isn't for me

[Amnesic]

I don't think google cares or can see if you registered your domain name for 1 or 10 years.

The fact that spiders are visiting your site every day is a good sign, but you must find out what you are doing wrong or maybe what you did wrong. You might even have fixed it already. Google is a strange thing.

yes.. they have a patent on that

[inthedark]

I launched my site about 2 months back, it was easely found by all big spiders.
My site contains 4 different pages, it's a text tgp wich is the main page and most important one.
The site is updated daily and all big spiders inktomi, google, msn, baidu etc... visit my site every single day.
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GFX3

The Google sandbox will last 3 months to over a year, not much you can do except remove as much ambiguity from your page as possible and wait.

In my experience, the sandbox if less lengthy for porn sites as opposed to mainstream, so thats a plus

While you wait try to get some links from sites on the first page of the search for keywords you want to rank on but don't go crazy getting recips, trust rank seems more important than page rank now

good luck