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  • Hinc
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2004
    • 2577

    #1

    Getting traffic from hackers?

    Hello,

    Ok, this may sound entirely foolish (and feel free to tell me if it is ) - but I was thinking....the hackers/bruteforcers etc have these huge password forums, in which they post passwords to paysites to surfers - either for free it seems, or they charge people to access all or parts of the forum.

    From a webmaster point of view, of course this is wrong and annoying - not mentioning potentially expensive if they´re managing to use up loads of bandwidth to freeriders. But. Most of us have protection software of various kinds, that tries to prevent the hackers from accessing, and if they do, try to rule out breached passwords by IP checks and all. So in the big picture, at least i´ve never had any serious problems with their efforts - theyve gotten in a couple of times, then posted it somewhere public it seems - as the pass has gotten disabled by the multiple IP checker.

    Anyway. Some of these password trading forums seems to have HUGE amounts of users. I´ve seen some with like a 100.000 users, and seemingly big amounts of them online. Now, in some ways - thats a good audience for marketing. Theyre certainly interested in porn, sometimes its event segmented in niches (gay, fetish etc) so you´d hit a niche specific audience, furthermore links posted wouldnt be considered spam as theyre looking for exactly that.

    So. Would it be an idea to actually post either real passes (that of course wouldnt last long, because they´d be either auto or manually disabled) or simply fake passes at these forums.

    If its posted like: http://www.sexsite.com Login:sexy Pass:woman you would actually send people to your main page, you know theyre after porn and might get tempted, they might get a short sneak-peak of your members area - but else they´ll just be exposed to the usual sales pitch from the main page.

    Of course I´m aware, that a big load of these are pure freeriders, that wouldnt pull out their creditcard however horny they got, but the same could be said - maybe even more so - for TGP´s, toplists etc....and some percentage might just fall for it.

    Secondly, it might attract more hackers (or whatever they call themselves) - but then, if they finally found an extra pass, that´d actually somehow just be another guy doing the promo for you (of course given that the security at the site isnt all messed up and spits out all the passes and never disables them)

    What do you think?
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  • erehwon
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2003
    • 3759

    #2
    What do I think? I think you're fucking nuts, and here's why...

    1. Many of your sponsors would cancel your account if you were caught advertising or being mentioned on hacker/password trading sites.

    2. Nothing is worse than a hacker scorned, piss them off the wrong way and your website being compromised is going to be the least of your troubles, I know a few mark's that went on vacation and a number of hackers shut off their power, water, and gas but unsuspended their morning paper and added two more so they would really pile up on the driveway.

    3. Traffic is cheap, buy some Chinese traffic, its basically shit, but it would work better for your trades than some 16 year old kid with no credit card and really pissed off that he can't see Paris Hilton naked on your site.
    Money NEVER $leep$...

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    • Hinc
      Confirmed User
      • Oct 2004
      • 2577

      #3
      Hello,

      Thanks for the input, I´m not quite sure I agree though.

      1. Numerous very well known sites seems to have hacked passes posted on these forums every day. Bangbros, milfhunter etc etc seems to be there constantly. I dont see what sponsors would cancel a paysite account based on a password to the site having been posted. But I might be missing something?

      2. First of, most of these "hackers" dont know the first thing about hacking. They have some program to bruteforce their way into pornsites and thats about the level of their skills, I think its a vast exageration of 99,9% of the "hackers" skills to even consider them being able to do anything remotely like that. And secondly, it wouldnt upset anyone that passes were posted, quite to the contrary, seemingly thats all they ever do at these places, and it´d be just like any other post there.

      3. Maybe you´re right, I havent tried it yet, so I cant say exactly how the traffic rates. I would suppose though, that it´d be significantly better than popups, chinese traffic etc, given that the users (not the hackers) are to some extend segmented to the niche and looking for porn.
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      • erehwon
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2003
        • 3759

        #4
        Originally posted by Hinc
        Hello,

        Thanks for the input, I´m not quite sure I agree though.

        1. Numerous very well known sites seems to have hacked passes posted on these forums every day. Bangbros, milfhunter etc etc seems to be there constantly. I dont see what sponsors would cancel a paysite account based on a password to the site having been posted. But I might be missing something?
        This from Streamray's T&C, and is pretty much standard boiler plate material...

        2.3 That You will not use any form of mass unsolicited electronic mail solicitations, news group postings, IRC posting or any other form of "spamming" as a means of promoting Your Website or for the purpose of directing or referring users to any Streamray Inc. Websites. You further acknowledge and agree that We have the right to immediately, and without notice, terminate your participation in the Program if we, in our sole and exclusive judgement, conclude that you have engaged in the use of any form of mass unsolicited electronic mail solicitations, news group postings, password selling or trading, warez, IRC posting or any other form of "spamming". NOTE: WE HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR SPAMMING. IF YOU SPAM, YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM WILL BE TERMINATED, YOU WILL BE BARRED FROM FUTURE PARTICIPATION IN THE PROGRAM AND ALL FUNDS OTHERWISE DUE TO YOU WILL BE FORFEITED TO THE COMPANY.


        2. First of, most of these "hackers" dont know the first thing about hacking. They have some program to bruteforce their way into pornsites and thats about the level of their skills, I think its a vast exageration of 99,9% of the "hackers" skills to even consider them being able to do anything remotely like that. And secondly, it wouldnt upset anyone that passes were posted, quite to the contrary, seemingly thats all they ever do at these places, and it´d be just like any other post there.
        My hard work is something I don't want to chance with that .01% with a clue, its the quiet ones you have to watch out for.

        3. Maybe you´re right, I havent tried it yet, so I cant say exactly how the traffic rates. I would suppose though, that it´d be significantly better than popups, chinese traffic etc, given that the users (not the hackers) are to some extend segmented to the niche and looking for porn.
        I don't sell traffic, but you are better off buying it to feed the trades than to chance losing everything to a flash in the pan.
        Money NEVER $leep$...

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