How Does CCBill Work?

[The Apprentice]

Newbie alert.
Packed with questions.
Need input.

some sites ask me to sign up with ccbill. What's the deal?

[HarborOfRats]

They are the credit card processor for that particular website. CCbill and other 3rd party processors offer a service to adult webmasters to allow them to accept credit cards and manage their members subscriptions. If you ever paid for anything on the internet with paypal, its a similar concept. Adult websites use 3rd party billers or processors quite extensively.

[The Apprentice]

Thank you.

Why when I try to sign up as an affiliate do I ge prompted with this?:


Make 50% of all sales to iamtrouble.com!
To load your current CCBill data, please enter your ID, username and password.

Current ID

Username

Password

As the story goes, I signed up to it, but it's not making a lot of sense.

[sean416]

Since CCBILL processes all the sales, they also do the tracking. The field your talking about

current id
username
password

is what you use if you want to merge two affiliate accounts together. The first time you sign up to promote your first ccbill affiliate program, you need to click on "create a new account" or something like that. If you show me the url you're talking about I can tell you where it is, but you can probably find it on your own. Then once you've signed up, it'll give you a 6 or 7 digit number as your affiliate id, and it will let you chose your username and password. If you ever want to sign up for a new program (under ccbill) you just use that affiliate ID, username and password and it will load all of your data so you dont have to do it again and again. It will also make both accounts in the same admin panel so when you login you can see both.

I hope I didnt just further confuse you.

[The Apprentice]

Originally posted by sean416
Since CCBILL processes all the sales, they also do the tracking. The field your talking about

current id
username
password

is what you use if you want to merge two affiliate accounts together. The first time you sign up to promote your first ccbill affiliate program, you need to click on "create a new account" or something like that. If you show me the url you're talking about I can tell you where it is, but you can probably find it on your own. Then once you've signed up, it'll give you a 6 or 7 digit number as your affiliate id, and it will let you chose your username and password. If you ever want to sign up for a new program (under ccbill) you just use that affiliate ID, username and password and it will load all of your data so you dont have to do it again and again. It will also make both accounts in the same admin panel so when you login you can see both.

I hope I didnt just further confuse you.

Thank You

Not at all confusing, that's exactely where I'm at.

The part that I don't understand is where the money comes in. Because I didn't give them my CC number or anything. (actually I gave them my social security #, for reasons I do not comprehend.)

Right now there's a little section in my admin pannel holding a few affiliates I found that I felt we're cool sites to advertise and potentially make a little money peddling thier memberships. But I don't understand who's going to pay me. Or am i supposed to be paying them?

[sean416]

You gave them your mailing address and your name. That's all you need to give them in order for them to be able to send you money.

How do you make money?
You need to put links to those sites on web pages where people will click them. You need to use your specific linking code in order to get credit for the traffic you send. Now assuming someone clicks on your link and goes to that site, and then signs up for the members section... you will get paid.

To be honest though, this is extremely basic stuff.. so I think its best you check out a place like xbiz, or ynot (just do google searches) and read some tutorials and get a better grasp of exactly what it is we do.

[The Apprentice]

Originally posted by sean416


You gave them your mailing address and your name. That's all you need to give them in order for them to be able to send you money.

How do you make money?
You need to put links to those sites on web pages where people will click them. You need to use your specific linking code in order to get credit for the traffic you send. Now assuming someone clicks on your link and goes to that site, and then signs up for the members section... you will get paid.

To be honest though, this is extremely basic stuff.. so I think its best you check out a place like xbiz, or ynot (just do google searches) and read some tutorials and get a better grasp of exactly what it is we do.

Lolz, Thank You

Yes, it is extreemely basic. I learned that from my experience with TopLists. But that only taught me how to trade links- Not make money- which I have yet to do. Well, that's not exactely true, but yea...

It just seemed too good to be true.
There's gotta be a flip side to this.

Do you know how strict they are with having the correct info? And is CCBill the main squeeze? What about iBill? Which of the two is the spin-off?

[sean416]

Well if you already run a top list, then you already have traffic, and he who has traffic is king. If all you're trying to do is make some money off your top list then this is easy. Just take a banner from one of your sponsors you signed up for, get your linkiing code and put a banner at the top of the page or the bottom, or somewhere inbetween. People will click on it, when they sign up for the site you'll get credit. It's not too good to be true. Rather then a company paying you to place their banner on their site, they're simply paying you if you send them sales. It's cheaper for them, offers you more flexibility and control and it's the over all way of making money online.

A lot of programs dont use CCBILL or IBILL they have cascading billing, which means ccbill or whoever processes for them will send them the checks, and then from there they will send you the check. Its really only the smaller programs that have CCBILL pay you directly. Check out these sponsors:

Nastydollars.com
TopBucks.com
TrafficCashGold.com
LegendaryLars.com (web cams)
RealityCash.com

Those programs are larger and pay you directly. They'll also offer you something like $30-$40 per sign up. So instead of getting $10-$12 and having to wait three or four months to make $40 from that sign up, they pay you a one time flat rate of $40 (known as PPS = Pay Per Signup).

IBILL has been having major problems with the bank that processes for them, and have lost all credibility with most webmasters. If you're looking to promote programs, in my opinion I would only sign up for those who either use CCBILL or pay you directly.

If you want, post your url here and I can try and help you out a little better.

[HarborOfRats]

CCBill and other billers also manage the affiliate tracking of the website owners using hosted programs on their side. These programs keep track of all the referring traffic sent by each affiliate by reading an affiliate code off the referring link. When you sign up you should be given your own personalized affiliate link that you use to promote your sponsor website. That link should look like this:

http://www.mysponsor.com?affid=xxx where xxx is your affiliate code that tells the program to pay you for each signed up referral.

You then take that link (or banner , image etc with a link) and you promote it somewhere - either on your website, mailing list, ezine, pay per click ad, etc.

Hope this helps.

[The Apprentice]

Originally posted by HarborOfRats
CCBill and other billers also manage the affiliate tracking of the website owners using hosted programs on their side. These programs keep track of all the referring traffic sent by each affiliate by reading an affiliate code off the referring link. When you sign up you should be given your own personalized affiliate link that you use to promote your sponsor website. That link should look like this:

http://www.mysponsor.com?affid=xxx where xxx is your affiliate code that tells the program to pay you for each signed up referral.

You then take that link (or banner , image etc with a link) and you promote it somewhere - either on your website, mailing list, ezine, pay per click ad, etc.

Hope this helps.

I see. It's all comingtogethernow.

So we, the affiliates, pay nothing, while the advertisers sites cash out to CCBill for their services.
And if you're runnning a "pay-per-click-" ad, CBill records those clicks so they can catch cheaters, as well as know where their trafic is effective the most.

Anything else?

[sean416]

Originally posted by The Apprentice
And if you're runnning a "pay-per-click-" ad

CCBILL does not do pay per click. So no site that you promote via CCBILL will pay you per click. All CCBILL affiliates use revshare. Revshare is where you get a % of the sale. It is the sponsor who decides how much you get, so you should take this into consideration when signing up for someone. The average is 50%, but some pay 60% and others only pay 30%. But what that means is if somone who clicked the banner or link on your site, and goes to the site you are promoting, and then signs up for the members section (say it costs $20), that means you will get $10. If that user stays a member for 1 year, then every month you will get another $10.

Originally posted by The Apprentice
CBill records those clicks so they can catch cheaters, as well as know where their trafic is effective the most.

CCBILL tracks which users you send to them in order to keep track of how many sales you are sending. They do not keep track so that can see who's cheating, or who's the most effective.. cause quite frankly, they dont care. No one will ever say "you're not sending enough sales so take down our link" it's not in anyones best interest to do that. Have a look around at some porn sites... look at this:

http://teenpinkgalleries.com/galleri.../teen_pink.htm

See the pictures in that gallery? thats why surfers go to that page. Now see all the links saying 'Click here for more' etc. Those are links to sponsors that site is promoting with their linking code so they get credit for all the sales they send.

[The Apprentice]

Thanks. :-)

Not what I ment, but still, thanks.

I was under the impression the ccbill stores your stats for YOU in your admin cp so YOU the webmaster can know what ads are effective... but not to take them down- for market reaserch.

I would never sign up to a billing company that didn't provide me with the refferers I'm paying.

[Diligent]

Umm.. I'm haven't promoted CCBill sites myself yet but...

I'm pretty sure You can check Your stats in Your CCBill-account, have a hard time
seeing them keeping them away from webmasters and only sending that data
to the sponsors.

Since You direct Your visitors to any CCBill-site with a linking-code to CCBill
and not to SomePaysiteUsingCCBill.com... who else could properly track the traffic?