A dillemna

[TGPSource]

I have a little bit of a dillemna.

I am a college student.. poor as fuck. I want to get into the adult web industry to bring up some dough. However I am having a hard time setting up sites that are desirable for people to share links with, because I cannot afford to pay a host. I have virtually no money but all the time in the world. I have a whole summer.

The problem is this.. like stated I am having trouble trading links with people as well as submitting my site to link lists and such. Reasons... my sites are on free hosts... and my email account is hotmail.

So here are my questions:
-Where will I be able to post or trade my links even though they are on free hosts?
-Where can I find a good deal on an email provider or should I stick with the hotmail account and keep trying until I find the very few sites that accept hotmail?
-How long and what is the best route for me to start making some decent money with free sites so that I can start paying for hosting and some decent content?
-Where can I hotlink some banners so that I can place my sites in banner share programs

Also I'm willing to trade traffic with anyone through sexlist as I can't run UCJ scripts on my free host.


Thanks
Wouter

[God-o-Sex]

Hi TGPSource!

Why don't you use a freehost which isn't really one? Solution for you: Revsharehosting.

Let me explain. You only have to buy a domain name (very cheap at namecheap.com or directnic.com) and then host it on the nameservers of Revsharehosting.

You get a MySQL database, you can run CGIs (like UCJ), PHP, email forwarding and that is all for free. The clue is, that they take about %5-10 of your sponsor income (you have to signup for your sponsors again using their refcode) and they let you host as many sites as you want for free and without banners. It's like paid hosting. The TGPs will accepts you and you can go for your trades.

Give it a try, I'm a student too and it works great for me:

http://www.revsharehosting.com

If you would like to use my refcode then here we go:

http://www.revsharehosting.com/124

Have many sales

[TGPSource]

Hey thanks.. I'll look into it. I think you might have really helped me here.. if I go for it I'm going to use your referral number.

[Amputate Your Head]

Number 1:

If you're looking to adult as a source of quick and easy cash... you couldn't have chosen a more wrong industry. This is not the place for a fast buck..... it takes some seriously hard fucking work and unholy dedication to make money here.

Get out while you still can.

[TGPSource]

Where do you get off saying that I'm here for a quick buck. I am in this for the long haul. I enjoy creating webpages and I enjoy monitoring people's habits. I get to use what I learn and apply it to a business model that might in the end pay me well. In the meanwhile I learn what I can.. I read what I can. Yes... right now I try to find a way to do everything for free... but that's simply because there is no other way... and I'm fine with that.

All I ask is for some help and tips from people who have experience in the business. If I wanted a quick buc I would put my address here and ask you to send money to a poor college student.. but I'm not... I will not do what every fucking college student does.. and that is to beg for money...

I am here to earn, so please don't assume otherwise

Now fuck off
Wouter

[TGPSource]

btw that last response was more a joke then anything else.. so stay cool

[bdld]

how about getting a job and then saving up that money and investing in the adult biz.

[TGPSource]

Thanks for the tip... but yeah I have a job .. it pays the bills...
The adult industry is something I'm doing for fun... while at the same time persuing the possibility of making something out of it. And yes... I am taking things seriously, I know this isn't all fun and games (sometimes you have to make disclaimers for the certain few)

I was told that adult webmasters were cool people and nice to talk to.. but holy fucking shit.. if you mention the word "free", they just feel like they have to jump down your throat.

Maybe you were all luckier than me and actually had some money to invest, but I'm sure there are plenty people who started of with free site.

I understand that because so much of the internet adult industry is indeed free, that it is draining the life out of our pockets, but just because I am using a free host doesn't mean that I can't sell a product.

I understand there is a stereotypical "get money quick scheme" crowd out there.. I'm not one of them.

Next time either give me a tip on what to do or shut your mouth.

Thanks
Wouter

PS: If you feel like giving me some advice, or showing me your site so I can get an idea of what strategies work... ICQ me at 77706211

[TGPSource]

Again.. no f'ing pun intended so stay cool

[Flash]

I started on a free host with my tgp. Nobody would trade with me either except other newbies. Hop around some of the newbie boards to find trades. Unfortunately, most of the big boys won't play with ya while yer on a free host.
Try to find a cheap pay host like protgp.com (excellent tech support). It's $10/month for 7 gigs
Let me see an url to a couple of your sites....I might post ya.

[TGPSource]

Currently I have two sites

http://tgpsource.xxxnova.com/
and
http://sexaddict.fnpsites.com/

Check em out.. got any tips? Tell me what you think.

Thanks
Wouter

[Flash]

your sites are surpisingly clean for being on a free host.
looks damn nice!
I might be interested in posting the tgpsource site.
Here's a friend's site (kinda like G.G.)
submit here
He might list both of your sites.
Unfortunately, i can't put you in my trade script but i'll add you to my free sites list after you put my link up
What i need from you is the name of the "tgpsource site"
and the url you want traffic to. I get 5k-10k/day. Most is sent thru the trade script.

One other thing....don't have any pop-ups or exits on your site ever. i won't trade with ya and neither will anyone else.
While you're on the free host.... keep your site as clean as possible

Link to me......
Ass-o-Holic TGP
http://www.assoholictgp.net


Once you have my link up, email me ([email protected])
and i'll add you right away.

Good luck and stay in touch.....If you have any ?'s please ask, I'll be glad to help ya.

[TDF]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Number 1:

If you're looking to adult as a source of quick and easy cash... you couldn't have chosen a more wrong industry. This is not the place for a fast buck..... it takes some seriously hard fucking work and unholy dedication to make money here.

Get out while you still can.

agreed.If you cant afford hosting you are definitely in the wrong game.To do this you need at least 10+ hours and countless bottles of eyedrops

[Marv]

Good luck TGPsource. If you love what you're doing more than the money, you won't have problems. Just look around and you can find alot of freehosted sites w/ huge traffics. As for the quality of traffics, it might not be as good, but then again, once you use the money to buy a domain from your dayjob, you can use your existant traffics and play w/ it. One of the site you link to, I think it's Loliangel use to be on a freehost. Now that he establish about 10k a day, he switch it to paid hosting. However, his traffic has been established, and he can use it to trade bigger and bigger.


Good luck

[Mistress]

Hello TGPSource,

I would never believe that with your GREAT interest in this biz you dont have (even) $35 to register your own domain.Unless you are on drugs or something...Come on, it costs a meal...

I would never host my site(s) on free hosts...because it is humiliating myself...Besides, on my TGP your URL:
http://tgpsource.xxxnova.com/

is blacklisted (actually all xxxnova.com!).

Even if my TGP rules are very basic: just no Child Porn, pop-ups, .exe, viruses! I also do not review posts for the approval: I just review cheat reports from surfers.

My advice:
Get your own domain (with that you will get your own domain's email) and host it on some cheap server to see how will it work.

Good Luck to you,
Mistress

[Flash]

Mis,
why do you have xxxnova.com blacklisted?
I haven't seen it blackballed anywhere else.
just curious ;)

[Mistress]

Hello Flash,

It means that there was violation like pop-up window
or exe file...Nobody likes that, right?

It based on my surfer's cheat reports only.

Regards,
Mistress

[TGPSource]

It's very simple. I don't have money, because of these reasons.

I am a college student, I have 2 jobs. I have to pay for school (all of it because I fucked up in High School). I have to pay for a car, a credit card bill, insurance, food, rent, electricity, internet provider... etc... Whatever.. the whole deal... I'm not bitching that I have to pay those things and I know that to many my bills seem rather insignificant. But yes, if I have an extra 35 dollars laying around I will spend it on hosting. Maybe I'm a loser, a fuck up because I can't seem to get out of debt at the age of 19... maybe that's your opinion. But I'll tell you this.. I want to work hard on earning some profits from the adult industry, and the only feesable way for me right now is to start on free hosts.

So just because I'm not having it as easy as you had it (and no.. again I'm not bitching because I'm getting what I deserve) and because I can't afford 35bucs you won't post my galleries, because they have a few extra ads on the top and bottom of the page. That's your personal choice but I know one other thing. If you look at my galleries and see that they are indeed cleaner than most peoples galleries on pay hosts, and your simply blocking mine because it's on a free host... I call that hypocritical, and I don't intent on doing business with you in the first place. I wouldn't be in this industry pursuing an initial free route because I want to.. I'm doing it simply so that in the future I will be able to pay for that host, and the only way I see it at all possible is by putting my site on free hosts.

If you still don't understand where I'm coming from, then I'm sorry of your shallow mindedness. Maybe I'll make it, maybe I won't. I guarantee it won't make a shit worth of difference in your life.... I understand your selfish ways, that's how you get ahead, and that's your choice. I'm different, you don't even know me, so if I were you I wouldn't spend anymore time thinking about it.

Thanks for those who do support the worthy attempts of the few people who use free hosts, and don't write them off immidiately,

Wouter

[Radix]

If I were you I would quit the school and so saved those 35$

I like your site. How much traffic do you have on it?

(Why I wonder? Maybe you can make some extra money on it, just check the link in my sig)

[TGPSource]

I get around 5-8k a day... and I have just signed up with your program.. thanks for the tip... I hope it converts.

Wouter

[Friday]

Hi tgpsource

You have 5k a day and you don't have money?

you can host your site + have a domain name at 100$ a year...

Why not doing it?

btw: how did you get so much traffic so fast?

[Aussiemade]

Hey TGPSource,

Firstly Mate, Don't take the comments so seriously. Everyone has their own opinions and they're not likely to be the same as yours, but that shouldn't matter. You have the right idea and if you're willing to work at it you'll be successful.

A lot of the Webmasters/Mistresses here know their stuff, so take the good advice and use it. If you see something that looks too critical, take it on board and see if there's not something you can do about it, like getting your own Domain Name, but if not, it's no big deal. Shooting back an angry reply will only alienate you from a lot more people than those who've posted here and you never know who's toes you're treading on. Today's perceived enemy my be tomorrow's best ally.

Everyone will encourage you to buy yourself a Domain Name. Sometimes that encouragement might seem a little offensive, but it's probably borne of their own frustration of not having a Domain Name and the realisation of how much things improved when they eventually did get one. It's Still Very Good advice, no matter how it is delivered.

Here's a few things I've learned over the years which might help.

Free Hosts are great for building TGP Galleries and making feeders to your Main Site, but you need to be careful who you choose as a Free Host. Have a look at some of the Bigger TGP's and see which Free Hosts, if any, they list. If the Biggies take these Free Hosts, sign up straight away.

Buy a Domain Name, it's probably the Biggest and most positive step you can take. You don't have to do it today, but it should be #1 on your list of things to do.

The Best Advice I've seen here is from God-O-Sex, with regard to Hosting Options. The AVS and Paysite Hosts, such as Revshare and CyberAge etc, are excellent Options as they allow you Free Space with no ads, and usually have good programs to make you a few Bucks. Look for those Hosts who will allow you to use your own Domain Name, as revshare.pussypics.com looks pretty ordinary, apart from the miriad of other reasons.

Keeping your Galleries clean and maintaining Sites without Pop-up's etc, is also a Critical factor in determining your success. Lots of people will tell you how successful Pop-up's are, but there's a cost to using them and while you're trying to build a foundation you certainly should give them a wide birth. Someone once told said that Pop-up's lead to Profitless Prosperity, not Bad!

Never Cheat! I'm not Pointing a Bone at you here, I'm merely giving some advice. Cheating Surfers, or Sponsors, or other Webmasters is the quickest way to go out of business.

I doubt you'll find any revelations in what I've said, but I guess this post is more a bit of encouragement to you, than anything else.

You'll always get the odd person who will appear to be critical of what you're doing, basically because it's not what they did. Your situation is a lot different to many others, so it will appear a bit alien to them. You DON'T have to do what everyone else does, mainly because if you did we'd all be doing the same thing. Everyone's opinion is worth something, it just varies in degree of usefulness.

[mijoon]

Hey TGPSource ,
Why do you assume that we all had it easier then you ?????
Many of us have had ( or are having ) as hard a time as you .
Some of us in fact have had it much worse !!!!
Best luck anyway

[Flash]

TGP,
Most webmasters started on a free host.
I started my tgp on a free host...kept my site clean....got some big trades.....then made the plunge to buy a name and hosting.
I also made friends with some biggies that helped me. People like : The Hun, Zilla (damn cool guy), Shemp, and Worldthumbs.

Starting on a free host is a good idea. You can experiment with different ideas, make mistakes and not have to pay a BW bill

It will happen for you in due time.
Right now, just enjoy having your own site.Have fun with it.
Before you know it your site will grow fast.

I'll bet that most of the people on this board had their first site on a free host or "practiced" on one.

Everyone needs to remember what this forum is called...."webaster Q & fuckin A". This is where newbies and other webmasters come for help, not for unproductive comments.

We all need to be more helpful to newbies. We were all there once ;)

Good luck to you