Complete TGP Guide: Beginner to Intermediate

[sean416]

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[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by sean416
I dont mean to be an asshole, but I thought I'd offer my opinion on some of these matters.

If you're just starting out, heres a way to start a TGP with $50 instead of $5000.

1. Get a domain name at godaddy.com, yes their TOS (terms of service) makes you a hoe to their pimpin back hand, but for the most part you're safe. especially when you're just starting out.

2. use a virtual host. use a hosting company like webair.com and they'll allow you to upgrade as neccessary.

3. Do a text link TGP rather then a Thumb TGP. It will save you bandwidth, it will save you from buying programs, and hey, they're still awesome.

4. download http://www.scriptarchive.com/rand_link.html and use this for all of the links to your galleries. This is a random link generator.. meaning each time somebody clicks on the link a new gallery will appear. You can also divide it into categories like babe, teen, fetish, etc.

5. sign up for as many sponsors as you can with free hosted galleries. and also put your link trades into the database to force traffic to the sites your trading with.

6. put a couple banners on your site to either sites you want to promote, products, whatever you think will bring in the dough!

7. Now your new $50 TGP is pretty much self maintenenced. So with your extra time start building your own galleries with 3 reciporal links with of course one of those links being yours. Just another way to get some more traffic.

The reason I say this, is a lot of people want to get into the adult biz, pour out thousands of dollars and give up shortly there after. This way you wont have spent all that money for nothing should you decide this isnt for you.

One last thing I wanted to say, this isnt to diss anyone, but dont think anyone is doing anything for free here. All of the links to the sponsors all have zzgundamnzz referral codes in them, meaning, he will be making money off of every dime you make. Now im not saying his credibility is shot, heck, the least he deserves for providing you with a tutorial on how to make thousands of dollars a month is a finders fee. All I mean to say is make sure you research what you're getting into before you blow all your money on it, what was said in this post is just one mans opinoin and not a guaranteed recipe to make money. If you know anything about our economy you should know the fallacy of composition. What's good for one person is NOT neccessarily good for all.

Best of luck!

If your going to threadjack atleast give right information...

You talked about inserting a link to a trade randomly into the text TGP script.

- How are you even going to know if your TGP is being productive?

- How would you even know what people click on?

- What happends to unproductive trades?

They get as much as regular trades and thats how you get assed out and fail in running your TGP.

1. What people do need to do is grab a free TGP script like:
Auto Gallery
http://www.jmbsoft.com/software/ag/

2. And then a Free Trade Script like:
Awgtrade
CJultra
TTT
Arrow Trader Lite

3. Go to http://www.sponsorhostedgalleries.com
Signup to as many sponsors that have your niche.

4. Import them into auto gallery. Get the first click to gallery and skim 60-50%.

5. Run a table of 6-8 Thumbs at the top. Skim them.
These thumbs will help your productivity while using minimal bandwidth.

6. Your done.

[zzgundamnzz]

BTW where the hell did $5000 come from?

Most people can get decent Thumb TGP for as little as $260... dedicated hosting plus 160K of decent feeder traffic.

[sean416]

lol. whatever dude. I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, you're the best im the worst. I'm completely wrong and everything I said was intentionally trying to throw people off of your proven method of success. It is hard, but in light of your responses, I just had to face the facts.

But I will be a stick in the mud about one thing, I said it before and I say it again... Good luck to everyone, including you zzgundamnzz

[sean416]

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
- How are you even going to know if your TGP is being productive?

- How would you even know what people click on?

- What happends to unproductive trades?

Sorry to go back on my word, but just for the sake of the people reading this thread I figured I should respond to the relevant counter criticism that was raised in the above quotation.

You would know what people clicked on based on your affiliate stats.

Unproductive trades would easily be recognized in your web stats.

And as zzgundamnzz reckoned earlier, a TGP's productivity is based on the $$$ earned. Therefor to check your TGP's productivity I would refer to your bank statement.

Now, I would like to make it clear that doing things the other way that was outlined in this thread would be A LOT more productive and easier (once you get the hang of things). You'd probably also make more money. What I was trying to achieve was some balanced input showing another way of doing things.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by sean416
lol. whatever dude. I'm sorry for hijacking your thread, you're the best im the worst. I'm completely wrong and everything I said was intentionally trying to throw people off of your proven method of success. It is hard, but in light of your responses, I just had to face the facts.

But I will be a stick in the mud about one thing, I said it before and I say it again... Good luck to everyone, including you zzgundamnzz

You know what... I don't really care what you think. All I wanted to do was share information that I thought would be useful. So what if I stick my ref codes to sponsors. If they don't make money I don't make money. The more successful the people I refer become the more successful I become.

I haven't seen too many people write articles about building a thumb TGP.

Whats your beef with me anyway?

Say whatever you want...

In the end you're just clearing up my ICQ messages from people asking for free help.

[sean416]

One last thing I wanted to say, this isnt to diss anyone... ...Now im not saying his credibility is shot, heck, the least he deserves for providing you with a tutorial on how to make thousands of dollars a month is a finders fee...

and I thought I made it clear that i wasnt trying to start 'beef'? I think you're a bit too defensive. But no hard feelings over here champ.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by sean416
and I thought I made it clear that i wasnt trying to start 'beef'? I think you're a bit too defensive. But no hard feelings over here champ.

Why not... this thread needs some GFY drama

[Khun]

Sorry for the newb question but I still dont really get what skimming is. Can you explan that in a little bit of detail?

[QuaWee]

excellent thread.

[sean416]

Originally posted by Khun
Sorry for the newb question but I still dont really get what skimming is. Can you explan that in a little bit of detail?

If someone clicks on a link but doesnt get the gallery he clicked on, instead he is redirected to another TGP that you are trading traffic with thats a skim. Now say you're talking about an 80% skim. That means 80% of the time he'll get the gallery and 20% of the time he'll get the other TGP. But I'm not 100% sure about that, it could be the other way around. 80% could mean that he gets the other TGP 80% of the time. That just seems a bit high to me but with some of the thumbnail TGP's out there it is quite possible.

Thats the type of skimming they're talking about.

[Khun]

Cool, thanks. I am working trying to set this up at the moment. I will post and let you guys know how well it goes for me when I get all the pieces together.

[zzgundamnzz]

one bump for July 4th

[Dagwolf]

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz

1. What people do need to do is grab a free TGP script like:
Auto Gallery
http://www.jmbsoft.com/software/ag/
.

zzgundamnzz : Not to side against you, I think this is a great thread and I'm following it closely. I just thought I should correct a little misunderstanding

The above script randomizes links to galleries, not to traffic trades. In other words, you can list URLs of 10,000 galleries in a text file (which the script accesses) and 50 links on your tgp page, and each time a visitor comes to your site he'll be faced with a different list of galleries for a long, long time; If all these galleries are yours and have your referral code on them, you keep all the traffic for yourself.
If all these galleries are sponsor-hosted, then you get all the money from the sales AND don't have to pay the gigantic bandwidth bill.

Either way, it eliminates the hassle of submissions/reviews. However, it DOES mean that you have to build or find all these galleries yourself and submit them to other TGPs yourself (or buy traffic).



Keep us updated! I love this thread.

[Khun]

Well, I just bought my ServerMatrix box. Wish me luck getting it running.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by Khun
Well, I just bought my ServerMatrix box. Wish me luck getting it running.

Good Luck

Been very busy with my newsite http://cutesexygirls.net

But if anybody still needs help hit me up on ICQ:
294942395

[Alltopnotch]

why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by Alltopnotch
why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...

Don't know...

[Khun]

Originally posted by Alltopnotch
why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...

Why, whats wrong with it?

[saamo]

Originally posted by Alltopnotch
why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...

Just a shot in the dark, but my answer would have to be "to help other people make money, and in turn make a percentage off the money they make"

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by saamo
Just a shot in the dark, but my answer would have to be "to help other people make money, and in turn make a percentage off the money they make"

[zzgundamnzz]

one more bump

[Adultnet]

very good guide, thanks

[italianninja]

thats a cool tutorial. comus is the best there is. my advice to you all is, choose a niche, babes, pornstars, blowjobs, footjobs whatever, there are alot of nichies out there, choose one and work on it. thats the mistake i first made, i didnt choose a niche and my tgp was too general.

[adultpixel]

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
one more bump

@zzgundamnzz:
just wanna say thank you for taking the time to write your great tutorial. I think, it's this kind of quality postings, which make it worth, to read adultwebmaster-boards for webmasters, who are into learning something and looking for helpful information.

thank you!

cheers,
adultpixel

[pood]

Originally posted by Alltopnotch
why the fuck you gonna post shit like this for any lil newbie to come along and read...

w
t
f
are you retarted?

[fuzzylogic]

Originally posted by italianninja
thats a cool tutorial. comus is the best there is. my advice to you all is, choose a niche, babes, pornstars, blowjobs, footjobs whatever, there are alot of nichies out there, choose one and work on it. thats the mistake i first made, i didnt choose a niche and my tgp was too general.

really? maybe thats what my issue is. did you keep your general tgp anyway, or toss it for a niche?

[fuzzylogic]

can u post a place to get trades? thx. then i will know what to look for so i can find more myself.

also, i was using trial comus but it kept skimming out to xxxonfire.com. i did not want to pay for something when i am not making money with yet, so i replaced it with a fake tgp.

so, trial comus skims at 2%? skimming is that it takes clicks away from your site. therefore, 1 out of 5 clicks to a thumb goes to xxxonfire.com, right?

[fuzzylogic]

here is another question:
if one buys a shitload of tgp traffic, how does that convert? it is mostly foreign, china traffic and they don't have a cc.

[fuzzylogic]

Originally posted by fuzzylogic
can u post a place to get trades? thx. then i will know what to look for so i can find more myself.

also, i was using trial comus but it kept skimming out to xxxonfire.com. i did not want to pay for something when i am not making money with yet, so i replaced it with a fake tgp.

so, trial comus skims at 2%? skimming is that it takes clicks away from your site. therefore, 1 out of 5 clicks to a thumb goes to xxxonfire.com, right?

correction:
i was lossing one out of five clicks to xxxonfire.
THATS NOT A 2% SHAVE

how do i get a shave that low?

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by fuzzylogic
correction:
i was lossing one out of five clicks to xxxonfire.
THATS NOT A 2% SHAVE

how do i get a shave that low?

If you were loosing 1 out of 5 clicks to Comus that means it was 20% skim.

You gotta get yourself a free trial key. All you need is an email and domain to register for the trial.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by Dagwolf
zzgundamnzz : Not to side against you, I think this is a great thread and I'm following it closely. I just thought I should correct a little misunderstanding

The above script randomizes links to galleries, not to traffic trades. In other words, you can list URLs of 10,000 galleries in a text file (which the script accesses) and 50 links on your tgp page, and each time a visitor comes to your site he'll be faced with a different list of galleries for a long, long time; If all these galleries are yours and have your referral code on them, you keep all the traffic for yourself.
If all these galleries are sponsor-hosted, then you get all the money from the sales AND don't have to pay the gigantic bandwidth bill.

Either way, it eliminates the hassle of submissions/reviews. However, it DOES mean that you have to build or find all these galleries yourself and submit them to other TGPs yourself (or buy traffic).



Keep us updated! I love this thread.

Or you could stick it at the bottom of your thumb TGP... add some traffic broker links and make cash just because people clicked.

[I'm Registered]

Part 1:
Do a text link TGP rather then a Thumb TGP.
***********************************
Can an experienced pimp explain the pros and cons of text-link over thumb TGP?

Some of the big name TGPs out there are text-link TGPs (thehun, worldsex etc).

Does 1 style convert better, have greater earning potential for the TGP site owner?

Also if you go with the text-line style, is there scripts out there to accomodate this type of TGP - (comus??).

Part 2:
Also does software like Comus allow you place banners and other advertising text-links and then either sell the ad-spots or promote sites via their affiliate progs?


Keep pimpin!

[BlackElf]

Originally posted by I'm Registered
Part 1:
Do a text link TGP rather then a Thumb TGP.
***********************************
...
Part 2:
Also does software like Comus allow you place banners and other advertising text-links and then either sell the ad-spots or promote sites via their affiliate progs?


Keep pimpin!

Yes you can put whatever you want, it just helps you place (and manage) the thumbs links on your pages.

Sorry I'm not an experienced pimp so cant help you on the first part.

zzgundamnzz, thanks for a great By the way - thank for a great tutorial

[Jaden]

Thanks gundamn What an awesome post!

[sean416]

Originally posted by I'm Registered
Part 1:
Do a text link TGP rather then a Thumb TGP.
***********************************
Can an experienced pimp explain the pros and cons of text-link over thumb TGP?

Some of the big name TGPs out there are text-link TGPs (thehun, worldsex etc).

Does 1 style convert better, have greater earning potential for the TGP site owner?

Also if you go with the text-line style, is there scripts out there to accomodate this type of TGP - (comus??).

Text link TGP's are the classic method and Thumb TGP's are relatively new. Most of the larger TGP's are text link because they're older.

As for which one is better, Thumb TGP's get more traffic, text link tgp's are better on bandwidth and usually have better conversion ratios. So it depends on if you're making the TGP to make money, or if you're making it to build traffic.

[czarina]

guys:
how do I see in TTT what skim % the sites that I'm trading with have?
For that matter, how do I see it in Comus also?

Also, comments and suggestions welcome about adultswebsites.com

Thanx in advance.,

XOXO,
Czarina

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by czarina
guys:
how do I see in TTT what skim % the sites that I'm trading with have?
For that matter, how do I see it in Comus also?

Also, comments and suggestions welcome about adultswebsites.com

Thanx in advance.,

XOXO,
Czarina

If you right click on a Comus link you get something like:

60&t

#&t = skim

[pornguy]

In Coums what is this and how sould it be set???


Thumb trade script suffix (ie. &link=gal&s=60)

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by pornguy
In Coums what is this and how sould it be set???


Thumb trade script suffix (ie. &link=gal&s=60)

This is how your trade scripts used by comus.

What you put in depends on what traffic script your using.

[pornguy]

I am using TTT

So what would go in that section..?

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by pornguy
I am using TTT

So what would go in that section..?

Ever try clicking the "?"

[pornguy]

Yes. I also tried to put in the code that they have there,

And guess what!





































It don't work!

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by pornguy
Yes. I also tried to put in the code that they have there,

And guess what!





































It don't work!

I would say thats your problem then

[fuzzylogic]

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
http://www.zzgalleries.com

About 2-2.3K a month...

this is a fake tgp, huh?
where do you buy your traffic?
lastly, is first three clicks to galleries then rest to trades a good ratio?

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by fuzzylogic
this is a fake tgp, huh?
where do you buy your traffic?
lastly, is first three clicks to galleries then rest to trades a good ratio?

I buy my traffic here:
http://traffic-for-sale.com

Depending on your site its not difficult to produce 105% with that traffic.

First 3 clicks to galleries is too much... you gotta have 400%+ productivity just to survive with first 3 clicks.

[zzgundamnzz]

Traffic Trading Tips:

- Don't set extremely high return ratios.
- Don't force traffic that you don't have.

Doing these will make your site collapse into itself. We all want to send 200% fixed return to trades or force 1000 per hour but sometimes thats just not possible.

Instead stick with a return of 120-130% with a maximum of 150% return. You'll notice that your trades will grow and become steady.

- Let the trade script manager handle the traffic.
- Only force to your Key trades if you need to

[christianrod30]

I read but I want somebody to build a TGP to me and apply the scripts on the page. Anybody could help me?

[Alltopnotch]

/\ ill do it for a price...

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by christianrod30
I read but I want somebody to build a TGP to me and apply the scripts on the page. Anybody could help me?

I could do it for $150

- Install of Thumbmanager
- Install of Trade Script

- Configuration of Thumbmanager
- Configuration of Trade Script

This is only for the install and configurations.