Image Protection?

[Mogulman]

I've got a client looking for a way to "completely block" image theft from their website. I know a few tricks to prevent most people from lifting images, but actually stopping everyone...!? Is that possible? Does anyone have some info. on viable encryption techniques?

[Mogulman]

I found some information on an encryption program called HTML Guardian. Anybody used or heard about this?

[belenkox]

Hi, I think that its impossible to protect your images from everybody. It's possible to protect them from simple users, but not from advanced ones. About code locking... I had a program called CodeLock... Well it makes your html code look like:
v=''; x="!G*5HSGX]TI*4LXQP*4TYFPMG*4*61*J*J[7G*J*JHXH*4LXQP*4824*4Xverwmxmsrep*J*JIR*6!I)4H)4E !Glxqp!I)4H)4E!Glieh!I)4H)4E!Gxmxpi!IYrxmxpih!G*Jx mxpi!I)4H)4E!G*Jlieh!I)4H)4E!Gfsh}*4fkgspsv!H*6*74 44444*6*4xi|x!H*6*7JJJJJJ*6*4pmro!H*6*7JJJJ44*6*4z pmro!H*6*7JJJJ44*6!I)4H)4E!GHMZ*4EPMKR!H*6girxiv*6 !I*4)4H)4E*4*4!Gxefpi*4epmkr!H*6girxiv*6*4gippwteg mrk!H*64*6*4gipptehhmrk!H*64*6*4fsvhiv!H*64*6!I)4H )4E*4*4*4*4!Gxv!I*4)4H)4E*4*4*4*4*4*4!Gxh!I*4!Ge*4 lvij! and so on and on. Off course its hard for beginners to understand wtf its written here. But advanced webmasters can decode it.

[Babaganoosh]

It's nearly impossible. The only thing I have been able to do was to dynamically load images in flash, thus prevent users from right clicking and "save as". Check into that, it may be your only option.

[Mogulman]

Yeah, we've used the flash trick before. My suggestion was to break up images into a ton of little one so it would take forever to try and lift an image. I don't think they're concern is well founded enough to get too elaborate. It's not worth my time for the size of the project.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback people.

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by Mogulman
Yeah, we've used the flash trick before. My suggestion was to break up images into a ton of little one so it would take forever to try and lift an image. I don't think they're concern is well founded enough to get too elaborate. It's not worth my time for the size of the project.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback people.

Split the image into 6 Parts. Most people are too lazy to put the image back together.

[pornanza]

gotta love print screen

ryan
http://pornanza.net

[zzgundamnzz]

Originally posted by pornanza
gotta love print screen

ryan
http://pornanza.net

Ok, then convert all images into 1 sec .wmv 's. Can't print screen them

[xxxoutsourcing]

HI,


it's possible to store the images in the MYSQL database and have php pull them from the database and embed them in the page, if teh user clicks to save the image it just downloads a php file and not an image file.

No good for tgp stuff of course!

[Amon-Ra]

Here's a nice tip too:

Use tables. Set your image as background of a cell and then put a transparant gif into that cell as just an image.

But, it's always possible to theft images.

[perfecthost.ws]

Here is a idè..:


Use a script it is a hahahahahaha script that script does that only if you use it with a hahahahahaha from a pointed url then the site workes or else it redirect`s to the main page.. then blok the right click and encrypt the source code with a good program and make some directorys like

jøasdljasjdgjalgj/image1.gif << just a ide

it`s a great script try it out im sorry but i dont have it try searching on google or something

[OzMan]

1) watermark your images

2) use marcspider to search for your images on other websites

http://www.digimarc.com/products/ima...er/default.asp

3) Sue the crap outta the offending website

4) retire

[hyatla]

Originally posted by OzMan
1) watermark your images

2) use marcspider to search for your images on other websites

http://www.digimarc.com/products/ima...er/default.asp

3) Sue the crap outta the offending website

4) retire

this is about the best solution I've ever seen, but it hard to execute. How about if that offender is in another country? How about that offender only used a few pictures, does that worth a lawsuit? ... It's almost impractical to really sue some small websites, I guess.

[Dopebitches]

cool

Thanks for the info

[OzMan]

Originally posted by hyatla


this is about the best solution I've ever seen, but it hard to execute. How about if that offender is in another country? How about that offender only used a few pictures, does that worth a lawsuit? ... It's almost impractical to really sue some small websites, I guess.

Yes sueing is not practical in a lot of cases.. you have to prove the site made money off your images etc etc but threatening from an attorney usually works


Depending on how many images we are talking about

if it's just a few the simplest way would be to scramble the page, disable right click/view source/ save as etc etc which i believe the above mentioned program HTML Guardian does in one click

[Digital Debutantes]

not much help, but may help...


http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex9/noright.htm

[Mogulman]

That's more options than I thought would come around. Good lookin' out.

Thank you.

[hyatla]

Originally posted by OzMan


Yes sueing is not practical in a lot of cases.. you have to prove the site made money off your images etc etc but threatening from an attorney usually works


Depending on how many images we are talking about

if it's just a few the simplest way would be to scramble the page, disable right click/view source/ save as etc etc which i believe the above mentioned program HTML Guardian does in one click

Truth being told, I myself used some pictures from some foreign country's sites. about 20 pictures, my site is free, just have some sponsor banners and I am not making any money anywhere, yet.

What's the usual practice here? Shall I put a notice on my site, saying something like: contact me if you found I stole your copyrighted material, and I will take down immediately.

I did see some of these notes on somebody's site. Point is, does this really protect my ass?

[Mogulman]

Originally posted by hyatla


Truth being told, I myself used some pictures from some foreign country's sites.

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Boo this man!!!

[hyatla]

Originally posted by Mogulman
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Boo this man!!!

Ok, I will go delete them right now. Where are you guys getting copyrighted, legal materials, if you don't want to stick to the sponsors?

Even sponsors, I have found some infringers. I tend to think the Internet is a huge swaping place.

[OzMan]

Originally posted by hyatla

Ok, I will go delete them right now. Where are you guys getting copyrighted, legal materials, if you don't want to stick to the sponsors?

Even sponsors, I have found some infringers. I tend to think the Internet is a huge swaping place.

Most sponsors have lots of free content
if not buy some yourself to increase the chances it won't be seen everywhere

[Adultnet]

Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
HI,


it's possible to store the images in the MYSQL database and have php pull them from the database and embed them in the page, if teh user clicks to save the image it just downloads a php file and not an image file.

No good for tgp stuff of course!

Nice idea , In a mysql database or a txt file

[phreaki]

Here is your problem:
Unless you eventually want to pay a fee for every picture you want to protect, there is never going to be a surefire way to protect them.

Being over-protective with an activeX plugin that -even- stops screen caps is possible. Digimarc is great.

But is all that truly worth the actual money you may lose to the casual piracy....

Weigh your options, because there is gonna be a lot of them.

Split your images up, then you have more calls to your webserver. Use a database to call images that has been split: now you involve a script and a database in a mundane function.

IMHO all these options may cost more in the long run than the cost of the piracy.

http://www.icecoldcash.com
BSD Doesn't Play

[evilregis]

There are lots of options but for everything you can do to stop someone from stealing an image, there is a way for them to get around it. Disable right-click? User disables hahahahahahahahahaha. Break the images into multiple smaller images... screen cap. About the nazi ActiveX control that disables screencaps, I'm not sure that that is flawless either, I could be wrong, but it would only prevent the screencap fromm working while the window had focus. So if you opened up say, Notepad over top of the browser, shrunk it down to it's smallest size, moved it out of the way of the image and capped that, I am pretty sure it would cap the whole screen. I could be wrong...