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[InsaneMidget]

[Trolleater]

[InsaneMidget]

Banner special has been taken down to $495 for a limited time only!

[mammy]

we are doing paysites for 400 usd with some better quality

[InsaneMidget]

Originally posted by mammy
we are doing paysites for 400 usd with some better quality

Wtf is wrong with you idiot?

Start your own thread.

[mammy]

Originally posted by InsaneMidget





Wtf is wrong with you idiot?

Start your own thread.

sorry man, but i think clients need different companies to choose
it 's business

[InsaneMidget]

Originally posted by mammy

sorry man, but i think clients need different companies to choose
it 's business

Then start your own thread numbnuts.

[TheViper]

from mammy his website:

5 animated banners ......................................$399

Yea very competitive

[mammy]

Originally posted by TheViper
from mammy his website:

5 animated banners ......................................$399

Yea very competitive

=) we are doing impressive banners,
but you didn't catch the idea right
we are doing paysites including 3 tour pages, join and members template, splash and 5 animated banners for 400 usd

[InsaneMidget]

Originally posted by mammy

=) we are doing impressive banners,
but you didn't catch the idea right
we are doing paysites including 3 tour pages, join and members template, splash and 5 animated banners for 400 usd

Here is an interesting article, that reminded me of you.

http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=1098


This is a good part:

"I?ve ranted a little about this before, and I?m doing it again simply because it?s starting to get silly. Prices are plummeting even further now; complete paysite packages are being sold for $400 ? a good designer, one that knows his or her stuff will charge that per page."



Also, maybe you should study the industry a little bit better, most people look for quality, fast, service, before they care about price. WHo cares if they found a great bargain for $400, just a waste of money if the design doesn't convert. Another thing, is under pricing is bad for the whole design industry, not too mention yourself. You've already placed the idea in people's head that you are small time, because you don't have enough confidence in your work to charge more. I charge prices that I think are fair for what I can produce and the level of my current design talent, which is always improving. So yes, competition is good, but help the industry, by competing with your quality of work, rather then how low you can make a price.


AND, I'd still appreciate it if you started your own thread. Which is what everyone else does.

[InsaneMidget]

Any serious webmaster looking for design work, probably won't even look at the "prices" page of your site, but if you drown it in there head that you're cheap, then they'll think your designs are cheap. Almost every client I do work for, asks me how much they owe me AFTER they recieve the finished product.

[KnownStranger]

Originally posted by InsaneMidget
Almost every client I do work for, asks me how much they owe me AFTER they recieve the finished product.

Exactly the way I work, put a smile in their face first, and then talk about money...

Otherwise, they'll think you are either greedy, cheap, or you just don't give a fuck about 'em... bad business.
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If you really like working a whole week for about 300$ (not talking about you here InsaneM), you can always flip burgers you know...

[AdultNex]

Originally posted by KnownStranger


Exactly the way I work, put a smile in their face first, and then talk about money...

Otherwise, they'll think you are either greedy, cheap, or you just don't give a fuck about 'em... bad business.
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If you really like working a whole week for about 300$ (not talking about you here InsaneM), you can always flip burgers you know...

Not a good idea, I always bring a budget or quote upfront. If you're a professional business, you don't want to do a large scale project for nothing.

[KnownStranger]

Originally posted by AdultNex


Not a good idea, I always bring a budget or quote upfront. If you're a professional business, you don't want to do a large scale project for nothing.

putting a smile on their face doesnt mean making the whole thing first... damn...

[MetaMan]

u all suck and cant design shit.

[mammy]

and what's the problem when doing quality design with small price?

[TheViper]

[lim_joe]

Originally posted by mammy
and what's the problem when doing quality design with small price?

i agree with you!!!!! because other people can design and does a better job and faster than others... of course it's up to the designer if they loose money or not!

[InsaneMidget]

It's a fact, underpricing is bad for everyone that designs. I explained this already a bit. Go read an article or read news about the industry to keep current, you obviously haven't been around long enough, or don't take the time to educate yourself on the market you are working in. You should try, rather then make a brainless reply.

[InsaneMidget]

Originally posted by AdultNex


Not a good idea, I always bring a budget or quote upfront. If you're a professional business, you don't want to do a large scale project for nothing.

Larger projects I always require atleast 50% upfront. My point being, however, was that most serious webmasters know it takes money to make money, and don't even look at my prices. Which continues on to my point, that underpricing is just pointless, and why charge a little, when you can get more out of the webmaster? I'm not talking about ripping them off, I'm talking about charging a fair price, rather then these other "designers" charging welfare discounts. If everyone started charging low low prices, it would become an industry standard, and eventually, wouldn't even be worth doing for a living anymore. If anyone thinks differently, please, go to a resource site, or lots of them, and read. I don't nkow why anyone would argue with me over this, are you all looking to give design work out for the lowest price possible? Or are you trying to make a living, and succeed like the rest of us?

[InsaneMidget]

Btw AdultNex, only part of my last reply was towards you.

[InsaneMidget]

Originally posted by mammy
and what's the problem when doing quality design with small price?

and why the hell is the $ sign on the wrong side in your button? Is that a design technique you've learned somewhere?

[AdultNex]

Originally posted by lim_joe


i agree with you!!!!! because other people can design and does a better job and faster than others... of course it's up to the designer if they loose money or not!

True, but people like you bring the industry down. When clients are approached with a very small fee for design work, they tend to think that they can get quality design from better designs for the same low fee.

Btw, don't take this seriously, but your design work is just like all the amateur designers out there

putting a smile on their face doesnt mean making the whole thing first... damn...

Care to explain that?