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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #1

    IPcalypse

    The number of allocatable IPv4s just dropped below forty-three million. #IPv6

    2 minutes ago via IPv4Countdown
    The CLOCK is ticking.
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  • oscer
    Confirmed User
    • Jan 2001
    • 2834

    #2
    They really need to force people like comcast over to IPv6 and take back thier millions of IPv4
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    • Barefootsies
      Choice is an Illusion
      • Feb 2005
      • 42635

      #3
      Originally posted by oscer
      They really need to force people like comcast over to IPv6 and take back thier millions of IPv4
      Agreed. There are a number of those bigger blocks not being used.
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      • oscer
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2001
        • 2834

        #4
        Originally posted by Barefootsies
        Agreed. There are a number of those bigger blocks not being used.
        I know for a fact a bunch of the companies like Level3 have a ton of Idol blocks also Cause of Buyouts and mergers
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        • cooldude7
          Confirmed User
          • Nov 2009
          • 4306

          #5
          less than 11 days., internet is gonna die ??

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          • Barefootsies
            Choice is an Illusion
            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #6
            Originally posted by oscer
            I know for a fact a bunch of the companies like Level3 have a ton of Idol blocks also Cause of Buyouts and mergers
            They are not the only one's. GE, and some other major corporations have enormous blocks they are not even using. There was a listing somewhere I had read a while back.

            The shear number of un-utilized blocks, and their sizes, were incredible.
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            • marketsmart
              HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
              • Dec 2004
              • 20419

              #7
              Originally posted by cooldude7
              less than 11 days., internet is gonna die ??
              icq # 585 $ 517 $ 213

              i dont understand..

              do you want $517 or $213 for your short icq # 585

              i by and sale short icq....




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              • Chosen
                • Aug 2001
                • 63151

                #8
                Originally posted by cooldude7
                less than 11 days., internet is gonna die ??
                Oh no, not the internet, please...

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                • chaze
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 9774

                  #9
                  The price of IP's will go up huge. But ipv6 will be active soon enough.
                  Like the desert needs the rain
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                  • comeplay
                    Confirmed User
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 1435

                    #10
                    Each Class A IPv4 block consists of 16,777,216 total addresses.

                    Here are a few interesting takeaways:

                    1. Hewlett-Packard owns 33,554,432 Class A IPv4 addresses, or 1/128 of the IPv4 space -- apparently more than the countries of India and China combined (unverified).

                    2. The U.S. Department of Defense owns 150,994,944 IPv4 addresses. What the DoD is doing with almost 151 million IPv4 addresses is beyond me. I don't think anyone, or any country, in their right mind needs 150 million IPv4 addresses.

                    3. Massachusetts Institute of Technology owns 16,777,216 IPv4 addresses. No college needs almost 17 million IPv4 addresses for itself. According to Wikipedia, by comparison, some organizations such as Stanford University (formerly owner of the 36.0.0.0 - 36.255.255.255 range), have returned their designated ranges due to IP address shortages in recent years. Perhaps MIT should follow Stanford's lead?

                    4. The IANA has reserved approximately 251,658,240 IPv4 /8 addresses. I know some blocks are reserved for special use, but perhaps the IANA could release some of those blocks back to the world? We have a serious IPv4 shortage on our hands. Why is the IANA holding onto more than 250 million IPv4 addresses?


                    As of 7/29/09, here is a somewhat complete the list of Class A /8 IPv4 holders:

                    * 1.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 2.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 3.0.0.0/8: General Electric Company
                    * 4.0.0.0/8: Level 3 Communications
                    * 5.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 6.0.0.0/8: U.S. Army Information Systems Engineering Command
                    * 7.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 8.0.0.0/8: Level 3 Communications
                    * 9.0.0.0/8: IBM Corporation
                    * 10.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 11.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 12.0.0.0/8: AT&T
                    * 13.0.0.0/8: Xerox Corporation
                    * 14.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 15.0.0.0/8: Hewlett-Packard Company
                    * 16.0.0.0/8: Hewlett-Packard Company
                    * 17.0.0.0/8: Apple Computer
                    * 18.0.0.0/8: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
                    * 19.0.0.0/8: Ford Motor Company
                    * 20.0.0.0/8: Computer Sciences Corporation
                    * 21.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 22.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 23.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 24.0.0.0/8: Comcast Cable Communications
                    * 25.0.0.0/8: Royal Signals and Radar Establishment (UK)
                    * 26.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 27.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 28.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 29.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 30.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 31.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 32.0.0.0/8: AT&T
                    * 33.0.0.0/8: U.S. Department of Defense
                    * 34.0.0.0/8: Haliburton Company
                    * 35.0.0.0/8: Merit Network Inc.
                    * 36.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 37.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 38.0.0.0/8: PSINet, Inc.
                    * 39.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 40.0.0.0/8: Eli Lilly and Company
                    * 41.0.0.0/8: Assigned to Africa, allocated by African Network Information Center
                    * 42.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 43.0.0.0/8: Assigned to Japan; allocated by Asia Pacific Network Information Center
                    * 44.0.0.0/8: Amateur Radio Digital Communications
                    * 45.0.0.0/8: Interop Show Network
                    * 46.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 47.0.0.0/8: Bell-Northern Research
                    * 48.0.0.0/8: The Prudential Insurance Company of America
                    * 49.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 50.0.0.0/8: Reserved by IANA
                    * 51.0.0.0/8: UK Government Department for Work and Pensions
                    * 52.0.0.0/8: E.I. du Pont de Nemours and Co., Inc.
                    * 53.0.0.0/8: cap debis ccs (Germany)
                    * 54.0.0.0/8: Merck and Co., Inc.
                    * 55.0.0.0/8: U.S. Army Information Systems Engineering Command
                    * 56.0.0.0/8: United States Postal Service
                    * 57.0.0.0/8: Societe Internationale de Telecommunications Aeronautiques (France)
                    * 58.0.0.0/8: Assigned to Asia; allocated by Asia Pacific Network Information Center
                    * 59.0.0.0/8: Assigned to Asia; allocated by Asia Pacific Network Information Center
                    * 60.0.0.0/8: Assigned to Asia; allocated by Asia Pacific Network Information Center
                    * 61.0.0.0/8: Assigned to Asia; allocated by Asia Pacific Network Information Center
                    * 62.0.0.0/8: Assigned to Europe; allocated by European Registry
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                    • oscer
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2001
                      • 2834

                      #11
                      Yea kinda a bit overboard
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                      • Spudstr
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 2321

                        #12
                        Originally posted by comeplay
                        Each Class A IPv4 block consists of 16,777,216 total addresses.

                        Here are a few interesting takeaways:

                        1. Hewlett-Packard owns 33,554,432 Class A IPv4 addresses, or 1/128 of the IPv4 space -- apparently more than the countries of India and China combined (unverified).

                        2. The U.S. Department of Defense owns 150,994,944 IPv4 addresses. What the DoD is doing with almost 151 million IPv4 addresses is beyond me. I don't think anyone, or any country, in their right mind needs 150 million IPv4 addresses.

                        3. Massachusetts Institute of Technology owns 16,777,216 IPv4 addresses. No college needs almost 17 million IPv4 addresses for itself. According to Wikipedia, by comparison, some organizations such as Stanford University (formerly owner of the 36.0.0.0 - 36.255.255.255 range), have returned their designated ranges due to IP address shortages in recent years. Perhaps MIT should follow Stanford's lead?

                        4. The IANA has reserved approximately 251,658,240 IPv4 /8 addresses. I know some blocks are reserved for special use, but perhaps the IANA could release some of those blocks back to the world? We have a serious IPv4 shortage on our hands. Why is the IANA holding onto more than 250 million IPv4 addresses?
                        MIT wont give back their IP space they will simply sell it off to other colleges as needed. US government has a strict policy to move to IPv6 so this block could be getting returned. HP would never give back IP space because well they are in managed services as well and this is a valuable asset for them.

                        What needs to happen is APNIC needs to take back a bunch of IP space from china this would free up a TOOOON of space. But why would china want to do that and do the rest of the world a favor?
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                        • rowan
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Mar 2002
                          • 17393

                          #13
                          I say release 0.0.0.0/8 and 127.0.0.0/8! No one is using them!

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                          • Spudstr
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 2321

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rowan
                            I say release 0.0.0.0/8 and 127.0.0.0/8! No one is using them!
                            Nah they need to make use of the Class "E" space first.
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                            • TidalWave
                              Confirmed User
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2706

                              #15
                              Why the hell does the USPS need a /8????

                              56.0.0.0/8: United States Postal Service

                              What the fuck?
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                              • TidalWave
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2706

                                #16
                                I can just imagine the amount of wasted IPs either because of non-use, not knowing that they are unused, or just not knowing what to do with them.

                                So many idiots are in charge of these IT departments.
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                                • Barefootsies
                                  Choice is an Illusion
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 42635

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TidalWave
                                  I can just imagine the amount of wasted IPs either because of non-use
                                  There is a TON from old defunct companies as well that had huge allotments.
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                                  • RycEric
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Apr 2009
                                    • 1313

                                    #18
                                    Interesting... There are also a ton of ISPs whose techs have no idea how to decipher IPV6 addresses. Example.. giving them an IPV6 address and they cannot find it on their network even though it's definitely on their block. This will be fun to watch

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                                    • BSleazy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2002
                                      • 6721

                                      #19
                                      I guess I don't get what millions of ip's are being issued daily for.
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                                      • TeenSluts
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2006
                                        • 1966

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BCyber
                                        I guess I don't get what millions of ip's are being issued daily for.

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                                        • cooldude7
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Nov 2009
                                          • 4306

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by marketsmart
                                          icq # 585 $ 517 $ 213

                                          i dont understand..

                                          do you want $517 or $213 for your short icq # 585

                                          i by and sale short icq....




                                          .
                                          its a 9 digit single account icq number , i used the $ to divide it, so bots wont spam me., i hope so.

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                                          • V_RocKs
                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32449

                                            #22
                                            I have about 3,800 of them... and I ain't giving them back!

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                                            • facialfreak
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 3018

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                              They are not the only one's. GE, and some other major corporations have enormous blocks they are not even using. There was a listing somewhere I had read a while back.

                                              The shear number of un-utilized blocks, and their sizes, were incredible.
                                              GE is a much larger corporation than you know ... run by the Illuminati ...

                                              I think they get a free pass on whatever they want to do with their IPs ...

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                                              • Barefootsies
                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 42635

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by facialfreak
                                                run by the Illuminati ...
                                                What is it with you Canadians and this "Illuminati" conspiracy?
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                                                • Spudstr
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                  • 2321

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by BCyber
                                                  I guess I don't get what millions of ip's are being issued daily for.
                                                  Large chunk are wasted on "seo hosting" and people just putting each domain on it's own ip. Sure here and there it's not much but given the size of the Internet it adds up quickly.

                                                  A large chunk of ips are end users which make the bulk of things.
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                                                  • SinisterStudios
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2003
                                                    • 3087

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Spudstr
                                                    Large chunk are wasted on "seo hosting" and people just putting each domain on it's own ip. Sure here and there it's not much but given the size of the Internet it adds up quickly.

                                                    A large chunk of ips are end users which make the bulk of things.
                                                    There is a hell of alot more waste of ip's out there then seo hosting, so many admins dont have how to subnet properly and in turn waste a TON of ip's. Some of the networks i have tried to clean up have been absolute nightmares.

                                                    We should have a nice supply of ip's coming back onto the market in the next 6 months or so, when arin puts up the vote to reclaim abandoned blocks.
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                                                    • seeandsee
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                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                      • 50945

                                                      #27
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                                                      • Barefootsies
                                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 42635

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Spudstr
                                                        Large chunk are wasted on "seo hosting" and people just putting each domain on it's own ip. Sure here and there it's not much but given the size of the Internet it adds up quickly.

                                                        A large chunk of ips are end users which make the bulk of things.
                                                        IP's are a resource champ. Webmasters have many reasons to do what they want with IP's and how they want to set up their sites and networks. It's a choice they PAY FOR.

                                                        I always love the web hosting companies who talk about 'waste' when it comes to IP's when 90% of the hosting industry it's self is wasteful. You know goddamn well most clients do not need a high end box or Quad core. But they insist on it so you give it to them because they demand it. Clients buy on price more than need.

                                                        It's the same as the home user. 90% do nothing more than check email, surf the web, and maybe download a song or watch some porn. They need nothing more than a netbook type of box, and an internet connection. Yet they are over sold on $500-1000 servers.

                                                        The whole web hosting industry is waste of resources. So bickering about some IP's and how they are used always makes me laugh. If you do not want your clients to USE this resource that's available. Than you can simply charge YOUR clients $5.00 per IP. Hence stopping the waste on your network. Price them out of using them.

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                                                        • facialfreak
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                          • 3018

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                                          What is it with you Canadians and this "Illuminati" conspiracy?
                                                          Us Canadians are not yet as brainwashed as you Americans ...

                                                          We are still free thinkers ..

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                                                          • CyberHustler
                                                            Masterbaiter
                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                            • 28735

                                                            #30
                                                            What a bunch of nerds...
                                                            “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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