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  • DVTimes
    xxx
    • Jun 2003
    • 31658

    #1

    server question

    How come servers do not crash these days?

    OK, they do a bit, but there was a time servers were crashing all the time.

    Is it the hardwear is more reliable these days or is it the softwear has less bugs?

    And on a side note if you want to run a server, how hard is it to do or learn?

    Do people self teach or do they go to college/uni for this stuff?

    Also how hard is it to do scripts and stuff?
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  • Barefootsies
    Choice is an Illusion
    • Feb 2005
    • 42635

    #2
    Better hardware.

    Better programmers/written scripts.

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    • AdultKing
      Raise Your Weapon
      • Jun 2003
      • 15601

      #3
      Server hardware has become much more reliable over the years, Linux and FreeBSD has matured and is less prone to crashes.

      Learning is not too difficult, mastering takes many years. I've been working with various incarnations of *nix for over 25 years and still wouldn't consider myself expert.

      Some of your questions are really 'how long is a piece of string' , do you want to just run your own server / VPS or do you want to become a guru ?

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      • Cyber Fucker
        Hmm
        • Sep 2005
        • 12642

        #4
        If you are with a reliable company then you are crashproof, and even if somehow crash occurs a reliable company will detect it and will sort it withing a minutes so you won't notice it. If you are with a crap company then you may expect crashes all over again. I think that not much has changed over the last years. Of course there are more stable SSD drives but even such drive may crash and this is not about it.

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        • Domain Broker
          So Fucking Banned
          • Oct 2004
          • 2427

          #5
          Judging by your posts on here you won't be able to do it if you studied 24 hours a day for 48 years.

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          • fatman1
            So Fucking Banned
            • Oct 2005
            • 340

            #6
            They do crash these days, i'm not sure you're right about that. Hardware is better, i'm not sure about more reliable, though - there are so many different server options out there that it would be impossible to say. Are cars more reliable these days?

            Some people goto college, some people self teach. It don't have to be hard to run a server, i'm running Ubuntu on one of mine and its really easy - installing and updating software is just a matter of learning a few commands.

            Learning programming/scripting is a whole other thing and a little harder to learn perhaps but it does go hand in hand with server admin.

            Get Googling.. "linux commands" or "linux tutorials" or even "server admin tutorials" should give you some nice results and get you some idea of what is involved. same goes for scripting.. "php tutorials" or "perl turorials" .. just take a look

            good luck!!

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            • Cyandin
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2008
              • 1723

              #7
              Global analysts noticed that since www.dedico.com came around, server crashes decreased dramatically!

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              • redwhiteandblue
                Bollocks
                • Jun 2007
                • 2793

                #8
                Originally posted by DVTimes
                Also how hard is it to do scripts and stuff?
                It's really really hard. I mean, really really really hard. You should just get someone to write any scripts you want for you, like me for example but it'll cost you about one million pounds.
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                • signupdamnit
                  Confirmed User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6697

                  #9
                  If you're going to use a linux based server (most still do but some use Windows or unix) and you want to learn to admin it yourself then your best bet is to at least have a machine locally with that OS loaded on it. Then use the local machine to learn by spending some time each day with it. Switching over completely to Linux (as your Desktop) might help you learn faster as well since it will be more of an immersed experience.

                  Based on the questions you are asking I would not even consider it until you have a good six months experience first.

                  You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                  • oscer
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 2834

                    #10
                    I would say better hardware and more redundency also the newer management Systems probably helped a bit too
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                    • AdultEUhost
                      ORLY?
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2579

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DVTimes
                      How come servers do not crash these days?

                      OK, they do a bit, but there was a time servers were crashing all the time.

                      Is it the hardwear is more reliable these days or is it the softwear has less bugs?

                      And on a side note if you want to run a server, how hard is it to do or learn?

                      Do people self teach or do they go to college/uni for this stuff?

                      Also how hard is it to do scripts and stuff?
                      Better technology, servers are much stronger and more capable of doing what they are made for. Most people have dual or quad cores so servers are running at ease.

                      Secondly development is running fast these days, more and more people start contributing in open source software like Linux etc, more patches are published faster. While a few years back a lot of stuff was still cutting edge, these technologies have matured into stable environments now.
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                      • XSV
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 1214

                        #12
                        Besides what has been stated, being able to easily load up on RAM now doesn't hurt either.
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                        • ArsewithClass
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 7957

                          #13
                          Originally posted by fatman1
                          They do crash these days, i'm not sure you're right about that. Hardware is better, i'm not sure about more reliable, though - there are so many different server options out there that it would be impossible to say. Are cars more reliable these days?

                          Some people goto college, some people self teach. It don't have to be hard to run a server, i'm running Ubuntu on one of mine and its really easy - installing and updating software is just a matter of learning a few commands.

                          Learning programming/scripting is a whole other thing and a little harder to learn perhaps but it does go hand in hand with server admin.

                          Get Googling.. "linux commands" or "linux tutorials" or even "server admin tutorials" should give you some nice results and get you some idea of what is involved. same goes for scripting.. "php tutorials" or "perl turorials" .. just take a look

                          good luck!!

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                          • DVTimes
                            xxx
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 31658

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                            www.adulthosting.com Very reliable & reasonable costs
                            F*ck me. I wodered how long it would be before you posted some crap to get your sig in.

                            So gary, why not tell us your advanced knoledge on servers.

                            Or do you know f*ck alll, like you know sod all about anything else?
                            XXX

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                            • ArsewithClass
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 7957

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DVTimes
                              F*ck me. I wodered how long it would be before you posted some crap to get your sig in.

                              So gary, why not tell us your advanced knoledge on servers.

                              Or do you know f*ck alll, like you know sod all about anything else?
                              Im a producer, I could try to teach you how to shoot decent footage, but you're probably not too capable of learning.


                              No crap in my post, just an url to a great web server www.adulthosting.com You must be looking at the crap that you wrote in the first post to this thread.

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                              • ArsewithClass
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 7957

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ArsewithClass
                                Im a producer, I could try to teach you how to shoot decent footage, but you're probably not too capable of learning.


                                No crap in my post, just an url to a great web server www.adulthosting.com You must be looking at the crap that you wrote in the first post to this thread.
                                The crap in our first post asking why technology has improved... like what a dumb thread.

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                                • oscer
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jan 2001
                                  • 2834

                                  #17
                                  I would say better hardware and more redundency also the newer management Systems probably helped a bit too
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                                  • alias
                                    aliasx
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 19010

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by fatman1
                                    They do crash these days, i'm not sure you're right about that. Hardware is better, i'm not sure about more reliable, though - there are so many different server options out there that it would be impossible to say. Are cars more reliable these days?

                                    Some people goto college, some people self teach. It don't have to be hard to run a server, i'm running Ubuntu on one of mine and its really easy - installing and updating software is just a matter of learning a few commands.

                                    Learning programming/scripting is a whole other thing and a little harder to learn perhaps but it does go hand in hand with server admin.

                                    Get Googling.. "linux commands" or "linux tutorials" or even "server admin tutorials" should give you some nice results and get you some idea of what is involved. same goes for scripting.. "php tutorials" or "perl turorials" .. just take a look

                                    good luck!!
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                                    • VHNet
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2005
                                      • 386

                                      #19
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                                      • mlove
                                        the guy
                                        • Apr 2005
                                        • 764

                                        #20
                                        Servers do crash. I deal with crashing servers all the time. Usually hardware related issues though. Now that LSI owns 3ware, all of 3ware's products have gone to shit. Also, hard disk issues pop up at least once a week. A friend of mine works at the NCSA supercomputing facility, they deal with failed hard drives & memory all the time. Luckily, server-market people are finally starting to see the importance of raid.

                                        I'm self taught, and work at a datacenter. I started using linux in 1999, started using freebsd in 2001, and have been working here since 2007.
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