Question on programs

[richrich]

Hi,

Over the last 10 years, I have made a lot of money from adult dating sites e.g adult friend finder, sexsearch.com etc etc. 10 years ago it was new and not too hard. These days everyone does it, the markets flooded etc and its generally a looser. For that reason I have been looking at other options and programs that are available.

I see a lot of the users on here do a lot of promotion for lots of the adult content providers like pussy cash, AW empire, traffic cash gold etc etc. These all seem to offer niche porn content and pages and content you can promote. I have seen lots of people pushing these products, posting up screen shots of figures and stats showing fantastic conversions and profits.

so really, how genuine are these? If you have found a great product that converts so well and is making you lots of money, why would you put a post up telling everyone and start having to share the market? I love porn and in 30 seconds can find plenty of sites offering thousands of movies and pictures, 100% free. I could not imagine every needing to pay for anything porn related so struggle to see how these programs make so much 'alleged' cash and conversions. Are all the people signing up just plain stupid?

Having been in the adult dating sector for over 10 years, I have seen all the tricks of skimming off the top, fake figures and useless stats and admin panels and so on. Can anyone recommend a good, legitimate program?

Maybe I am wrong but I cannot quite see how people would spend money on something that can be had for free via google.

Any words of wisdom appreciated.

Cheers

[fatfoo]

richrich, you are from the UK and you seek words of wisdom. You seem to be freely offering information to people. Here are some rhymes for you:

Your business at 10 years is like a young king
To build a strong empire you can banish a bad thing
I have made much profit from dating gold
Choose gold of the highest carat for you to mold
Try to get paid in earnest, my good friend
Sites are broken soles for you to mend
You seek conversion, that's the key
All you need is one good friend, you see
Friendship leads to peace and profit
A night you might see a cat in heat
A bird will tell a bird's eye view
Speak to many, not a few
I wish you good luck on the day of Thor
You might reply if you want some more
richrich, write an interesting tale
Train of thought rides on a rail

[richrich]

Thanks fatfoo, I am from the UK. I am not offering information, just explaining how I see things and asking for people to offer a thought. These programs must make money else they would not exist but I struggle to see how given what they say people pay for and convert well on can be found for free in Google in seconds.

Clearly a lot of what is on offer is misleading, people saying how great a product is are clearly making money from referals else why share?

Clearly some programs are far better than others. Was just after other peoples views. I can offer 10 years experience on the area of adult dating, was just hoping others with experience of these programs could offer a few words of wisdom.

It pays to do your research, ask questions etc.

Cheers

[paperboy]

I had the same feeling you have and that's exactly the reason why I dedicate some of my time to the Gaming industry. Don't get me wrong I love porn, more than anything else, but the gambling business is growing big all around the world.

I own gambling related sites for sports and casino mainly, but I get lots of conversions from my adult traffic. So why don't you give it a try? partners.betus.com

Cheers!

[richrich]

Thanks paper boy - I would love to get out of the porn arena. I know gambling is huge but what stopped me looking at gambling was the difficulty I saw in getting any decent traffic that may lead to conversions. To rank in search engines for gambling is impossible when you looking at the millions the big boys spend to be at the top.

To buy decent traffic for gambling e.g ppc, google ad words, yahoo, msn etc is a non starter, about £1/$1.50 a click and ripe with click fraud too.

Trading links within porn to porn is easy (hence why I have remained in the porn sector) but cannot see too many options as porn site owners don't really want gambling links and many mainsteam sites either don't want them or want a fortune to place links / banners as they know its a high value market.

If you don't mind me asking (and appreciate you don't want to give you secrets away) what areas have you found work for gaining traffic that converts outside of porn?

I also looked at loans as loan companies pay big money for leads but like gambling, to obtain traffic is hugely expensive, google ppc in the UK is about £2 a click for loans!

cheers mate

[Paul Markham]

The Internet is now well established and after the Internet bubble burst those coming into it have a good game plan. The days of easy money are over, what ever you promote. So put your eggs into a few baskets and see which ones work for you best.