Stashi, please explain

[Gman.357]

Stashi (Rich), now that your site isn't being hijacked, and I can see it again, I found something that troubles me.

I noticed you are running my pre-paid ads through your trade script, with a skim of 40%. Like this:

https://ttt-out.php?pct=40&link=Bubb...ubblebutts.com

I know you were not doing that when the ads were originally paid for and placed on the site, because I checked them.

One of the main reasons for me pre-paying for ads in certain positions on a website is to get clicks. Skimming the clicks to go to trades (even though you trade with some site I own) doesn't fulfill your obligation.

I sent you a message on this via ICQ about 30 min ago. No response yet. So maybe this will get your attention quicker.

I understand maybe you didn't realize doing this is a bad thing, but the ads were paid for in full, so altering the HTML to them after they were approved is not something that's appreciated.

Please respond. Thank you.

[Theo]

this makes sense, I have never seen skimming on ads of anytime.

[Theo]

btw, i dont know how this script work,is it skimming or just tracking the clicks? Many webmasters seems to do that. It might be this case as well.

[Snazzy]

This is taken directly from the TTT admin script:

Skimming: "ttt-out.php?pct=50&url=http://www.example.com"

[Tuga]

Skimming 40% from payed adds...

[Gman.357]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
btw, i dont know how this script work,is it skimming or just tracking the clicks? Many webmasters seems to do that. It might be this case as well.

It's TTT. It's definitely skimming, because when I clicked on the ads, they went to blank pages. I found this unusual at first, because my site was coming up when accessed independantly.

I clicked a couple more times, and my site came up. I checked the HTML, and noticed he was skimming 40% on the ads. I clicked a few more times, and noticed it redirecting to a page that was NOT my site.

Then I looked at his toplist, and noticed all his trades were deleted, which would account for the clicks going to a strange blank page and this 404 page he had put up.

See what I mean here: (pics at the top)

http://www.pleasuredvds.com/ebony/index.shtml

[Snazzy]

If you wanted to just track clicks you would use the following line of code:

ttt-out.php?link=advertisement&url=http://www.example.com/

[detoxed]

I hope you didnt prepay too much for those spots.

[Mutt]

i've been following these threads.........uh.........i think it's possible this guy is just in over his head and not really trying to screw people over.

Looks like he is trying to run before he walks.

[Fletch XXX]

skimming on ads?

[Gman.357]

Originally posted by detoxed
I hope you didnt prepay too much for those spots.

Well, I just want to hear his explaination.

[Machete_]

Originally posted by Tuga
Skimming 40% from payed adds...

LIL2RICHIY ROX

[Gman.357]

Originally posted by Mutt
i've been following these threads.........uh.........i think it's possible this guy is just in over his head and not really trying to screw people over.

Looks like he is trying to run before he walks.

The term for these ads actually expired just the other day. I'm not sure he was even aware of that until I mentioned it a few hours ago to him.

I have no way of knowing how long he's been running these through his script, because he wasn't using the usual tracking code I put on my pre-paid ads.

Anyway, Rich... go ahead and remove those ads. Your site is dead right now, and there's no trades in your script for some reason. I don't know how long you have been directing traffic through your script to those ads, but if it's longer than yesterday, it really isn't something that's appreciated.

[Theo]

Originally posted by Mutt
i've been following these threads.........uh.........i think it's possible this guy is just in over his head and not really trying to screw people over.

Looks like he is trying to run before he walks.

honestly i believe the same.

[Tuga]

He is more dumb than a cheater. That's why I dont care how many times he says he's sorry. He will never stop doing stupid things.

[Gman.357]

Also, if this was done as a favor to me or something (continuing the ads after the term expired yesterday), skimming them through the script still isn't appreciated.

Some of the girls on those pics are exclusive to my paysite, and I pay for ads on many other sites using the same display. When a surfer clicks one of those girls, I don't want them seeing another free site that I don't own, or another paysite on your 404.

That's not what I use them for.

Thanks.

[TDF]

I love bubblebutts

[Gman.357]

Originally posted by toodamnfli
I love bubblebutts

They love you too!

[TDF]

Originally posted by Gman.357


They love you too!

I know... ;)

[aleck]

skimming on pre-paid ads. a new word in the biz

[Stashi]

Hey G-Man

Not sure if this was posted before or after our convo on ICQ?

Either way, i shot you a msg back on 3/29/03 that would explain that ....


You have sent a message!
wanted to let you know i changed the links on some of your thumbs, made it point to trades because traffic was dropping. couple still point to your bubblebutts and ill definately not drop it after the 1 month is up since you didnt get a full month with all 5 thumbs. Ill leave it up for you for free.
And the user was out



I never heard from you about that, i just assumed you got the message and didnt care .... but now i remember in another thread you said your ICQ has been fucked up?


This must be before we spoke on ICQ because i explained to you this FUCK had deleted the script files for the trade script, and when i reloaded the script it didnt keep the trade list. I thought it would just pull from the dB, but it didnt.

[Stashi]

i was also gonna say "wtf cant you send me an icq instead of going direct to public?!?"

But then i saw you actually did send it while i was out, heh


sorry bout that.

[aleck]

strange explanation

[Theo]

when you see:

And the user was out

90% of the time, the other part won't receive the message for some reason

[aleck]

on icq?

[Stashi]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
when you see:

And the user was out

90% of the time, the other part won't receive the message for some reason

really?

I get alot of messages when in N/A mode ... not sure if thats same thing?