Do you think customized ccbill join forms make a difference?

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  • mmcfadden
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 5099

    #1

    Do you think customized ccbill join forms make a difference?

    I'm still up in the air about this one.

    Anybody have some good sites that use ccbill customized join forms? Do they work for you better then the default forms regarding conversions?

    Just a general question but if you could post your url example when describing that would be very helpful ;)
  • SBJ
    So Fucking Fabulous
    • Apr 2003
    • 11387

    #2
    you should ask Paul at ccbill about what he thinks on this topic cause I heard he does great things on join forms

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    • Barefootsies
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      • Feb 2005
      • 42635

      #3
      No I do not.
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      • mmcfadden
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2008
        • 5099

        #4
        Originally posted by SBJ
        you should ask Paul at ccbill about what he thinks on this topic cause I heard he does great things on join forms
        Do you have an ICQ for this named Paul?

        Somebody must have a couple sites that they think have a good custom form that increase the overall conversions... it's only the last step to an impulse purchase decision and would think that the form itself would likely be the last and final selling point to an online purchase.

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        • MediaGuy
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          • Sep 2004
          • 5500

          #5
          Though we don't use them, I would venture to state that yeah, a customized, CCBill-branded join page might make a difference in whether or not a surfer/potential customer converts...

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          • trevesty
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            • Aug 2006
            • 3810

            #6
            Originally posted by mmcfadden
            Do you have an ICQ for this named Paul?

            Somebody must have a couple sites that they think have a good custom form that increase the overall conversions... it's only the last step to an impulse purchase decision and would think that the form itself would likely be the last and final selling point to an online purchase.
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            And yes.. he's very good with custom join forms.

            I don't think it's the MAIN factor, but it's definitely a contributing factor to better ratios.
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            • The Porn Nerd
              Living The Dream
              • Jun 2009
              • 19787

              #7
              Hey man, we went through customizable form HELL for three months this year, from Jan-March. We were seeing conversions plummet for three or four of our sites. We use cascading billing with Epoch so I switched cascades to Epoch - they use differant, simpler forms - and conversions skyrocketed.

              So we wanted CCBill to 'copy', as best they could, the Epoch Join forms. They wanted to design custom forms for us. We objected - no, we KNOW what the Epoch forms do, COPY those.

              They gave us three forms, over two+ months. Conversions PLUMMETED. Then they finally gave us forms that were as close to the Epoch ones as possible. Sales returned to acceptable levels.

              Having said all of the above, we've notcied some strange sales patterns over the past month. The credit cards have changed their rules, and many of them went into affect in April, so perhaps that's why. April is tax time in the US, too, so maybe that was it. We're gonna wait a few months and continue the forms testing with A-B testing and perhaps another third-party biller. perhaps our own merchant account. We'll see.

              But I would say, overall, not to 'trust' what CCBill designs for you. LOL Or rather, to be fair, because they really were helpful, is to have a good testing mechanism in place and just test test test everything yourself. YOUR sales are what's important anyway. Good luck!
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              • SBJ
                So Fucking Fabulous
                • Apr 2003
                • 11387

                #8
                Originally posted by mmcfadden
                Do you have an ICQ for this named Paul?

                Somebody must have a couple sites that they think have a good custom form that increase the overall conversions... it's only the last step to an impulse purchase decision and would think that the form itself would likely be the last and final selling point to an online purchase.
                I guess you missed my sarcasm in my post about your thread from a month ago.. " I would love to hear 1 cheerleader for CCBill"

                nevermind but I myself don't worry about the join form but for sure think that a custom designed join page with ccbill buttons will always convert 10 times more than someone that just uses the ccbill join page.

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                • mmcfadden
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5099

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SBJ
                  I guess you missed my sarcasm in my post about your thread from a month ago.. " I would love to hear 1 cheerleader for CCBill"
                  didn't miss it homie...

                  i wanna see some fucking join forms... I want to see...

                  www.metart.com recurring below button...

                  i wanna know that a peon like me does not deserve to be treated like a client who values success...

                  My values...thoughts,have no merit....

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                  • mmcfadden
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5099

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MisterPeabody
                    YOUR sales are what's important anyway. Good luck!
                    your good peeps man...

                    I've had mad problems cascading, trying other processors.

                    But one thing is for certain...

                    PAUL from ccbill...

                    will change your forms for certain

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                    • BestXXXPorn
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                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2277

                      #11
                      A/B Test, A/B Test, A/B Test...
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                      • mmcfadden
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5099

                        #12

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                        • mmcfadden
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5099

                          #13

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                          • Paul Markham
                            Too old to care
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 52942

                            #14
                            Hard to tell, but a lot of customers out there know and trust CCBILL.



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                            • Bhunter
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 1119

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Paul Markham
                              Hard to tell, but a lot of customers out there know and trust CCBILL.
                              that's what i've been thinking too..

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                              • DamianJ
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                                • Jul 2006
                                • 15808

                                #16
                                Originally posted by BestXXXPorn
                                A/B Test, A/B Test, A/B Test...
                                Thank you.

                                It's not even hard to do...

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                                • BVF
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                                  • Jan 2002
                                  • 13975

                                  #17
                                  I think the sales pitch needs to be made BEFORE the customer even gets to the join page...

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                                  • Bhunter
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2006
                                    • 1119

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by BVF
                                    I think the sales pitch needs to be made BEFORE the customer even gets to the join page...
                                    Yup i agree

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                                    • mmcfadden
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Oct 2008
                                      • 5099

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BVF
                                      I think the sales pitch needs to be made BEFORE the customer even gets to the join page...
                                      The sales pitch is your site.

                                      I know what you are saying though... "what you get is etc. etc." when you join this site.

                                      I've even checked out your pre-join page.

                                      That being said, your processor page, and the manner in which it is explained and shown is absolutely one of the most important factors to making a sale, hands down, absolutely, no doubt in my mind.

                                      Back to my question... any ccbill custom forms that either you promote or own that have done better for you sales/percentage wise then the default?

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