DOJ aint givin' money back, they are just firing up the pirate ship and building up the treasure chest to go after the bigger fish after gobbling up the easy shit no one will give a shit about.
so who would be the bigger fish? ccbill?
DOJ doesnt freeze bank accounts unless they are sure they have it all figured out. another bloody mess in the 2010 porno dead pool. more to follow im sure. get out while u can.
The Department of Justice works hand in hand with the IRS. Many reasons for closing down an account, Money Laundering is the biggest reason especially with what has happened in Georgia with the DOJ seizing 6.7 million of a big programs money. Second , they issue 1099 to people and if they continued to issue checks to the same people after receiving a statement from the IRS that those clients are delinquent in paying their taxes they will also intervene. I know from the amount of 1099 misc employment statements that I get back that many talent do not pay taxes or even report them. This year I sent out 160 of them and received back approximately 50% of them back. Many of these talents are connected to their own websites that get paid thru Webmaster checks and probably ignore the nice letter from the IRS. Amazingly enough this year not one talent have called to find out where there 1099 is. This year I received the nicest one from the IRS that a talent owes $151,950 in taxes for the years 2007 and 2008. I can no longer issue a check to that person. Maybe they want to work free but when have you ever heard of talent working free.
well hope they get it fixed...for their sake...and the sake of affiliates who need payments from them
i dont see it as being a huge deal to most companies...they already prepare their payouts in a format...they can just as easily pass it on direct to epasporte..and just hire someone to cut checks
bump in the road...not the end of the road.
as far as the govt agent going on vacation
well..i have been in a similar situation....while waiting for my wifes PR card, we were at 2.5 years into the process...and i had started calling daily....then finally i got hold of a person...he told me he would handle it and not to worry...but he was going on vacation the next day....but he said someone else was going to handle this...and indeed it was.
so i suspect there is another agent available to discuss this with webmaster checks
This type of thing used to happen from time to time in the early days of adult.
I remember a scarey time back in like 99 or 2000 when Epoch actually wasnt able to cut checks for awhile- it eventually got resolved, but it was a nail biter for sure.
The thing to remember here is not to jump to any conclusions- it might be an IRS thing, it might be some big nasty DOJ/laundering/gambling fiasco, or it might just be some kind of fuckup that will get resolved.
I've always found it odd that a large company would want to rely on some 3rd party to do their checks when something like this could happen and turn everything upside down on them overnight... but thats me. You can hire one or two people to cut checks on a frikkin laser printer every 2 weeks.. why take a risk?
In the long run, the guys really on the hook here are the sponsors- they sent their money to webmaster checks (which may very well not have done anything wrong to their knowledge) and here comes the DOJ and everything is in the abyss.
The sponsors now have to claw their way out of the mess, and the poor guys at webmaster checks (giving them the benefit of the doubt here, as we should until we know more) have just had their business relationships jeopardized.
I hate to see things like this happen, but I've seen it go both ways- so its not necessarily a stick in the eye, but its too early to tell. I guess this will be a test of the sponsors to see who can come through. But do keep in mind they didnt see it coming either, and its a total pain in their ass as well.
This kind of thing has been in the business since day one- sucks to hear its still happening, but honestly it happens alot less often these days than it did back in the beginning.
Somebody did something wrong somewhere for this to happen, but its too early yet to find out what and why for sure- nothing much to do except hope your sponsor can take care of you in the short term until the dust settles.
We very recently became aware of an issue regarding our bank accounts being frozen by the Department of Justice and our attorney?s are working diligently to resolve this issue immediately and correct the error in how the DOJ handled this issue. Unfortunately, the Agent in charge of the case, took this action and then went on Vacation. We believe this is not related to our business practices and, therefore, should not have impacted our valued clients.
We apologize for not informing you of this problem sooner, but we assumed that we would resolve this overnight as we would not have expected to have to wait for someone to return from Vacation. We are certain our business has all necessary licenses and registrations, has followed all rules and regulations to the best of our ability, and we know we will have a favorable resolution to this as soon as we have opportunity to speak with the case agent.
We, and our attorneys, are working as rapidly as possible to resolve this issue. We will work hand and hand with each of you and your affiliates to ensure that we resolve this matter in a timely manner, with as little impact as possible. If you are a client and we have not communicated yet, please use the below link to access our contact information and call or email us, be assured that we will keep our clients updated as we progress through this process.
I think this whole thing is just the another attack from the Gov to disrupt studios. Do you see them going after the tubes running CP? Have you seen them try to enforce any rules on the people trying to put all of you out of work?
The whole thing is a joke, and IMO just the gov trying to kill of what few of you remain in anyway they can
I was referring to Mulder conveniently going on vacation.
I have no doubt in my mind that they have had all their funds seized due to one of their clients being investigated
how could you have no doubt unless u have inside info? if one of their clients is being investigated then its some biller's client too. i didnt see a post about ccbill's or epoch's accounts being frozen.
i dont see the logic. everybody in this business is intertwined.
Sigh I got two returned Webmaster checks today I thought I was in the clear because I had deposited them a week prior to the shit hitting the fan. Sent the sponsors in question an email and I am awaiting their reply.
how could you have no doubt unless u have inside info? if one of their clients is being investigated then its some biller's client too. i didnt see a post about ccbill's or epoch's accounts being frozen.
i dont see the logic. everybody in this business is intertwined.
That is a very untrue statement. There are many ways to bill without either of those 2 businesses. Further if you were to do something shady it would not be on CCBill or Epass it would be on a foreign merchant account. Just look at history to prove what I am saying.
I'll say it again, how long until someone attempts to open up an alternative?
There already are alternatives. Chexx I believe is still in operation and a new one opened up a couple weeks back, I think it's called iPayAffiliates, or something like that.
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There already are alternatives. Chexx I believe is still in operation and a new one opened up a couple weeks back, I think it's called iPayAffiliates, or something like that.
so what is the catch?? what happened exactly?? What law they broke, if any?
the only good thing about all this is that you can see how many people still work in adult.. people who never enter the forum or never post and lurk around, but now they jump all together and show up.
They froze the accounts Monday and we're finding out now?
That's lovely. Not like anyone might have deposited any checks in between Monday and today.
Yeah, I got a bounced check from them this week. Wish I had known sooner, but what can you do. Luckily it was only one check that I tried to deposit, and it was from a sponsor I don't push that hard so it wasn't big, my condolences to those of you who have been affected in bigger ways. Let's hope this works out soon!
We wanted to update you on the banking situation you were made aware of earlier this week. Our attorney was able to get hold of and have a conversation with Baltimore Assistant US Attorney General Richard Kay earlier this afternoon. He made it clear that they discovered one of our clients had proceeded to send payments for transactions that originated on gambling websites. As you should know, we do not process for gambling transactions and have very stringent processes and policies to help ensure such.
As said previously, we are certain our business has all necessary licenses and registrations, has followed all rules and regulations to the best of our ability, and we expect to have a favorable resolution to this as soon as Mr. Kay has a chance to review our due diligence policies and procedures early next week. This is very good news!
We wanted to update you on the banking situation you were made aware of earlier this week. Our attorney was able to get hold of and have a conversation with Baltimore Assistant US Attorney General Richard Kay earlier this afternoon. He made it clear that they discovered one of our clients had proceeded to send payments for transactions that originated on gambling websites. As you should know, we do not process for gambling transactions and have very stringent processes and policies to help ensure such.
As said previously, we are certain our business has all necessary licenses and registrations, has followed all rules and regulations to the best of our ability, and we expect to have a favorable resolution to this as soon as Mr. Kay has a chance to review our due diligence policies and procedures early next week. This is very good news!
We wanted to update you on the banking situation you were made aware of earlier this week. Our attorney was able to get hold of and have a conversation with Baltimore Assistant US Attorney General Richard Kay earlier this afternoon. He made it clear that they discovered one of our clients had proceeded to send payments for transactions that originated on gambling websites. As you should know, we do not process for gambling transactions and have very stringent processes and policies to help ensure such.
As said previously, we are certain our business has all necessary licenses and registrations, has followed all rules and regulations to the best of our ability, and we expect to have a favorable resolution to this as soon as Mr. Kay has a chance to review our due diligence policies and procedures early next week. This is very good news!
I've always found it odd that a large company would want to rely on some 3rd party to do their checks when something like this could happen and turn everything upside down on them overnight... but thats me. You can hire one or two people to cut checks on a frikkin laser printer every 2 weeks.. why take a risk?
Most the companies using Webmaster Checks are not US-based. It can actually be a huge pain in the ass to pay affiliates using such an antiquated and primarily american system such as checks.
ATLANTA ? The parent company of Brazzers has filed a motion to dismiss the forfeiture of $6.4 million the U.S. government is seeking after authorities traced numerous transactions involving the Canadian adult company and third-party credit card processors, including those in Israel.
Six more bank accounts connected to online gambling have been seized by the Maryland US Attorney's Office. These were all Wachovia Bank accounts held by a company called Forshay Enterprises, Inc., with authorities claiming the monies are related to money laundering activity. Thus far, 15 accounts have been seized in connection to this ongoing investigation. A company called Electracash, Inc. had its accounts seized in the last couple of weeks as well. Accounts tied to processors owned by Edward Courdy and Michael Garone were targeted last year.
WASHINGTON - An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.
lots of gambling busts revcently, my take on this is that Brazzers (or some other client) tried sneaking in gambling proceeds through webmasterchecks, hopefully all they have to show is that they were not aware, they do not accept gambling, and thats it
So this explains it somewhat...
Originally posted by marktruman
We wanted to update you on the banking situation you were made aware of earlier this week. Our attorney was able to get hold of and have a conversation with Baltimore Assistant US Attorney General Richard Kay earlier this afternoon. He made it clear that they discovered one of our clients had proceeded to send payments for transactions that originated on gambling websites. As you should know, we do not process for gambling transactions and have very stringent processes and policies to help ensure such.
As said previously, we are certain our business has all necessary licenses and registrations, has followed all rules and regulations to the best of our ability, and we expect to have a favorable resolution to this as soon as Mr. Kay has a chance to review our due diligence policies and procedures early next week. This is very good news!
Where did you hear this?
On a side note, that Attorney General's office is about 45-50 minutes from me. Should go give him a swift kick in the ass!
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