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I don't think there are many big programs on processor specific backends these days. Yes, there are a few. I'm not saying there aren't any.
Most large affiliate programs realize they need a lot more flexibility than these included systems provide. They realize that they need to own their business and their data, not resell under a processor's affiliate program.
I don't think there are many big programs on processor specific backends these days. Yes, there are a few. I'm not saying there aren't any.
Most large affiliate programs realize they need a lot more flexibility than these included systems provide. They realize that they need to own their business and their data, not resell under a processor's affiliate program.
I am of course biased.
Yeah well I can trust my traffic to a ccbill progam because I know some random BROgram isnt going to bang my customers card with hidden cross sales etc. So tired of this fly-by-night-quick-hit-fuck-the-customer shit.
Yeah well I can trust my traffic to a ccbill progam because I know some random BROgram isnt going to bang my customers card with hidden cross sales etc. So tired of this fly-by-night-quick-hit-fuck-the-customer shit.
Just some friendly advice... No need to go throwing three letter words around!
True Amateur Models is converting very nicely and is a CCBill program. The member retention is also very strong and steady. Alot of traffic coming into the site (Alexa Rank - 14,636) and jam packed with 100% exclusive content of real amateur girls modeling and getting down into hardcore action. The affiliate program can be found here: True Amateur Cash. Hope to see you aboard as an affiliate.
Most large affiliate programs realize they need a lot more flexibility than these included systems provide.
Flexibility to cross-sell our valued customers and not have to pay their affiliates until they choose to.
Originally posted by TMM_John
They realize that they need to own their business and their data, not resell under a processor's affiliate program.
Why exactly do they need to own their customers' credit card information?
It just struck me that NATS has a lot riding on cross sales don't they? All these piece o crap new sites with 4 and 5 words in the domain name started solely for the purpose of having more sites to cross sell to/from is really what keeps NATS in business, yes? Quality product, don't get me wrong. Always thought NATS was really cheap for what you get. Just sayin. Maybe they'll just raise the price if the cross-sale thing goes haywire.
Flexibility to cross-sell our valued customers and not have to pay their affiliates until they choose to.
Why exactly do they need to own their customers' credit card information?
It just struck me that NATS has a lot riding on cross sales don't they? All these piece o crap new sites with 4 and 5 words in the domain name started solely for the purpose of having more sites to cross sell to/from is really what keeps NATS in business, yes? Quality product, don't get me wrong. Always thought NATS was really cheap for what you get. Just sayin. Maybe they'll just raise the price if the cross-sale thing goes haywire.
Yeah you is.
Don't waste your breath with him, it's not worth it!
Flexibility to cross-sell our valued customers and not have to pay their affiliates until they choose to.
Why exactly do they need to own their customers' credit card information?
It just struck me that NATS has a lot riding on cross sales don't they? All these piece o crap new sites with 4 and 5 words in the domain name started solely for the purpose of having more sites to cross sell to/from is really what keeps NATS in business, yes? Quality product, don't get me wrong. Always thought NATS was really cheap for what you get. Just sayin. Maybe they'll just raise the price if the cross-sale thing goes haywire.
Yeah you is.
Putting blind faith in anything for payments is a bad idea. That includes any software, any processor, or any company. Know who you're doing business with.
I never said anything about needing customer's credit card information. NATS does not keep credit card info. What I was referring to was owning their affiliate data, owning their rebills, pointing their links at a domain they own, etc.
Lots of programs that do not run on NATS do cross sales. Every major processor does cross sales. Lots of NATS customers do not do cross sales. Our business is hardly based upon cross sales.
For every person who complains our price is too high there seems to be someone who thinks it is too low. I think that means we're in a pretty good spot with it.
Who are you btw? Or are you just going to hide behind the anonymous nick?
I don't know why you're against NATS and/or epoch..Compared to all the sites I promote the ones that use the CCbill backend took the biggest nose dive in conversions..
I don't know why you're against NATS and/or epoch..Compared to all the sites I promote the ones that use the CCbill backend took the biggest nose dive in conversions..
programs appear and disappear these days very fast. webmasters can't rely on autonomous back-end (epoch allows epoch stats programs to pay webmasters on their own and it doesn't consider the fact that program didn't pay epochstats webmaster as a fraud). so in general if we compare ccbill to any other back-end there's really no comparison
only solid programs with good history can start with nats, for newbies it'll be a disaster. they won't get any affiliates and they won't be able to afford such program :2cents
Flexibility to cross-sell our valued customers and not have to pay their affiliates until they choose to.
Why exactly do they need to own their customers' credit card information?
It just struck me that NATS has a lot riding on cross sales don't they? All these piece o crap new sites with 4 and 5 words in the domain name started solely for the purpose of having more sites to cross sell to/from is really what keeps NATS in business, yes? Quality product, don't get me wrong. Always thought NATS was really cheap for what you get. Just sayin. Maybe they'll just raise the price if the cross-sale thing goes haywire.
Yeah you is.
double that
most of programs running shady x-sells according to our list are nats based
most of programs not paying webmasters are nats based
most of programs having all kinds of issues with webmasters are nats based
it'll be the same with any other the most popular autonomous back-end. it's not as much about nats, as about people using it. although CCBill could't be used in those shady ways nats is being used
I guess your question has been answered and now everyone with a ccbill program is throwing their hat in the ring so I'll go ahead and do the same - SIG!!! :-) . I also promote ExploitedCollegeGirls and their sister site BackRoomCastingCouch and do well with both. I also promote AmateurAllure which is not a CCBill site but run by two of the best guys in the biz, and do well.
I'm not sure why you want the biggest when you should be looking for the best with the sites that are going to make you the most money. The size of the company should not matter, though you can count on the "biggest" programs having the most saturated content, which may actually lead to less sales.
As an affiliate, I make the most money with small micro niche sites that most of you don't know about. Don't underestimate small, amateur sites, as they usually know their niche better than most.
I'm not sure why you want the biggest when you should be looking for the best with the sites that are going to make you the most money. The size of the company should not matter, though you can count on the "biggest" programs having the most saturated content, which may actually lead to less sales.
As an affiliate, I make the most money with small micro niche sites that most of you don't know about. Don't underestimate small, amateur sites, as they usually know their niche better than most.
Why do you always have to go and make sense of things. There's no room for that here.
Affiliates can promote SpookyCash via either CCBill or Epoch. If I had to guess, I'd guess FTV is the biggest, so no claims in that dept, but we're established with extensive sales tools, regular updates, and a long track record.
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