Does the Magicjack work?

[DeadFidel]

$3.33 a month...this is the kind of shit that seems 2 b 2 good 2 b 4 real. ...and it's a fucking 1/2 infomercial. The over sell is too middle American. The target is wrong.

[docputer]

I have one and it works fine. I got a magicjack and bought a one year plan, then I just renewed for 5 years.

[Twig]

yes...............

[BVF]

It works....Mine is plugged into the laptop right now.

[fatfoo]

Never heard of it. Never tried it.

[dallasnovelty]

i know quite a few people who have switched and seem to like it just fine with no difference in service.

[theking]

$3.33 a month...this is the kind of shit that seems 2 b 2 good 2 b 4 real. ...and it's a fucking 1/2 infomercial. The over sell is too middle American. The target is wrong.

Works fine for me.

[fris]

i use skype for long distance

[Blackamooka]

My mom has one and it doesn't even work outside of her office, but I think it has something to do with the construction of her house (thick concrete walls).

I use Vonage and it works perfectly.

[SmokeyTheBear]

My mom has one and it doesn't even work outside of her office, but I think it has something to do with the construction of her house (thick concrete walls).

I use Vonage and it works perfectly.

sorry had to chuckle at that.. the magicjack uses the internet, so as long as the internet works its fine..


Heres my overall opinion of the magicjack..

The quality is a little better than a cell phone , not as good as a traditrional landline.

Well worth the money. ( free long distance )

What you get is a phone jack that plugs into any usb port, then you plug any regular phone into it.. The computer must be on to use it ( and connected to the web )

I use mine on my laptop, often times when my cell phone has no reception i can find a free wireless connection to use the magicjack on..

[stickyfingerz]

The whole company is interesting. I had dinner with the Vice President (also the top or second to the top stockholder). And he gave me the full story on how everything came about. One of their main datacenters is here in Nashville actually.

[Gerco]

Have one and it works great...

[dirtysouth]

Love mine!

[Blackamooka]

sorry had to chuckle at that.. the magicjack uses the internet, so as long as the internet works its fine..

I know how it works, thanks. Still doesn't change the fact that hers loses signal outside of her office. Was never an issue before she switched over to Magic Jack. It has nothing to do with the fact that it's on the internet. It has to do with the strength of the source.

[LiveDose]

My mom has one and it doesn't even work outside of her office, but I think it has something to do with the construction of her house (thick concrete walls).

I use Vonage and it works perfectly.

Sorry I had to laugh too...

[qxm]

the only catch is that you need to keep your host PC on all the time... if you don't want to miss a call that is ...... otherwise I hear it works OK...

dunno if u can connect it to a USB hub and make it work without having the PC on .... guess I'll have to do some googling about that...

[Blackamooka]

And, also for the "It works over the internet" crowd. That's a load of crap, and exactly why I ended up having to get Vonage. Originally, I wanted to get Comcast phone service installed in my old house. When the tech came by, they tested the signal strength on my router and said that it was impossible to setup a phone line downstairs while the modem was upstairs because the signal was too weak. I would have had to set up my router downstairs, which would have been a major pain in the ass. Vonage's system works a little bit differently, and so does Magic Jack. It's not just a matter of having a signal because it's on the internet. You need a signal with strength.

[B2BwithJoeD]

Europeans Billing Europe!

Seems to be catching on - I think I even saw Walmart pushing it - I do a Google search now for feedback/complaints on any purchase I am contemplating - you learn a lot...and then still make your own more qualified decision...

[stickyfingerz]

And, also for the "It works over the internet" crowd. That's a load of crap, and exactly why I ended up having to get Vonage. Originally, I wanted to get Comcast phone service installed in my old house. When the tech came by, they tested the signal strength on my router and said that it was impossible to setup a phone line downstairs while the modem was upstairs because the signal was too weak. I would have had to set up my router downstairs, which would have been a major pain in the ass. Vonage's system works a little bit differently, and so does Magic Jack. It's not just a matter of having a signal because it's on the internet. You need a signal with strength.

Something incredibly wrong with your comcast tech. The modem has the phoneline on it. Your phone doesn't go through the router at all. On top of that they can hook the phone line coming out of the router to your existing phone lines in your house and you can plug your phone into any of those jacks. Either you or the tech are really confused, or... no idea. You both just seem confused. lol

[Blackamooka]

Something incredibly wrong with your comcast tech. The modem has the phoneline on it. Your phone doesn't go through the router at all. On top of that they can hook the phone line coming out of the router to your existing phone lines in your house and you can plug your phone into any of those jacks. Either you or the tech are really confused, or... no idea. You both just seem confused. lol

Depending on where you are, Comcast uses different routers, and different systems. In Washington, the routers they use require the phone line to be plugged directly into the router. I'm now in Colorado where they don't.

The point is, you can still have a working phone line hooked up to the internet and have a weak signal. Anyone that claims that's not true has no idea what they are talking about. I ran cable and installed CAT5 cable and phone lines for 5 years for an ISP, and we ran into issues like this all the time.

[dyna mo]

Depending on where you are, Comcast uses different routers, and different systems. In Washington, the routers they use require the phone line to be plugged directly into the router. I'm now in Colorado where they don't.

The point is, you can still have a working phone line hooked up to the internet and have a weak signal. Anyone that claims that's not true has no idea what they are talking about. I ran cable and installed CAT5 cable and phone lines for 5 years for an ISP, and we ran into issues like this all the time.

please do not argue with this guy. he had dinner with THE vp and largest/2nd largest stockholder of the co. n/m the fact magicjack is a wholly-owned subsidiary of ymax.

[Blackamooka]

please do not argue with this guy. he had dinner with THE vp and largest/2nd largest stockholder of the co. n/m the fact magicjack is a wholly-owned subsidiary of ymax.

lol, why are you quoting me? I never said that. Or were you quoting me to tell me not to argue with him?

[fris]

whats the difference between skype and magic jack

[Blackamooka]

whats the difference between skype and magic jack

Skype doesn't need a phone line. Just a mic.

[eroticsexxx]

For those who obviously do not know, the magicjack device relies exclusively on internet connectivity speeds and has nothing to do with phone signal "strength".

The technology is called VoIP and if you have an internet connection that will allow you to watch a youtube video without jitter, then you can use MagicJack or Vonage flawlessly.

Now if Blackamooka was talking about a bad telephone line coming into his ma's house that prevented her dsl modem from giving fast enough internet connectivity to keep up the VoIP connection, that's a different story altogether. But such a problem would have also affected Vonage.

Again, if you have internet speeds that are greater than 512kbps (up and down), magicjack will work perfectly. Use Speedtest.net if you are not sure.

And I'm a Magicjack user as well...

[eroticsexxx]

whats the difference between skype and magic jack

Magicjack is a little device that plugs into the USB port of any computer that is connected to the internet. Simply plug a regular phone into the device and you can call normally.

Skype uses a software interface to make calls through your soundcard, but they also have a wifi phone that allows you roam within a wifi network and place calls when you're away from your pc.

[Blackamooka]

Now if Blackamooka was talking about a bad telephone line coming into his ma's house that prevented her dsl modem from giving fast enough internet connectivity to keep up the VoIP connection, that's a different story altogether. But such a problem would have also affected Vonage.

hmmm, that's funny since I tested it with Vonage and it didn't have the same issue, and since they have a much higher down/up speed than 512kbps. But, I give up since I have no interest in giving you guys a crash course in how twisted pair frequency response works. You're absolutely right, magic Jack plugs in and magically carries data across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss.

[eroticsexxx]

magic Jack plugs in and magically carries data across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss.

Yes indeed it does, because it uses the internet. In the same way how you can watch a youtube video "across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss" is the same way that the magicjack works.

I'm beginning to doubt if you have ever seen a magicjack or whether you actually knew how to install it.

1. Plug the little device into the pc
2. Plug any regular phone into the magicjack
3. The Magicjack negotiates the connection to the company's servers using VoIP over the INTERNET (which means that if you can browse the web, the negotiation between Magicjack and their home servers is intact).
4. Again, no internet=no magicjack.

You're confusing mainstream telephony with VoIP. Magicjack uses the latter.

[Blackamooka]

Yes indeed it does, because it uses the internet. In the same way how you can watch a youtube video "across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss" is the same way that the magicjack works.

I'm beginning to doubt if you have ever seen a magicjack or whether you actually knew how to install it.

1. Plug the little device into the pc
2. Plug any regular phone into the magicjack
3. The Magicjack negotiates the connection to the company's servers using VoIP over the INTERNET (which means that if you can browse the web, the negotiation between Magicjack and their home servers is intact).
4. Again, no internet=no magicjack.

You're confusing mainstream telephony with VoIP. Magicjack uses the latter.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Google is your friend. Here, let me help you.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=magic+jack+strength+issues

Signal strength from your internet connection does indeed have an impact on Magic Jack's service. Feel free to sift through the thousands of complaints.

Does this mean your Magic Jack won't work just fine? No. But it can and does. As I said before. Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. Which is why I use them instead.

Buy a fucking Magic Jack. I could care less. But, as always, you get what you pay for.

[stickyfingerz]

please do not argue with this guy. he had dinner with THE vp and largest/2nd largest stockholder of the co. n/m the fact magicjack is a wholly-owned subsidiary of ymax.

You know nothing of what you are talking about. lol

Ymax is owned by the inventor Dan Borislow. His partner getting this whole thing off the ground was his VP Donald who I met and had dinner with, and who is also the second or maybe 3rd now largest stock holder. Idiot. Before that Dan and Donald pushed phone card services. I sat and got the full story and background of the company. They work mainly out of Atlanta but also have a large data center here in Nashville so he often is here in town. Think the phone card company was tel save or something like that. You would know them by names like 10-10-220 They used to be pretty popular before cell phones and pre paid cell phones were out there more.

But hell you are Dyna who? lmao

How they portray the ownership of the company in a public light may be just a smidge different.

[dyna mo]

ahh, so don burns is a VP now?

gotcha.

i guess he was demoted from CEO and Chairman of the Board.

[stickyfingerz]

hmmm, that's funny since I tested it with Vonage and it didn't have the same issue, and since they have a much higher down/up speed than 512kbps. But, I give up since I have no interest in giving you guys a crash course in how twisted pair frequency response works. You're absolutely right, magic Jack plugs in and magically carries data across 1,000's of miles, completely impervious to interference and data loss.

You appear to really be confused. Im just curious how your signal strength from upstairs to downstairs changes depending on where you put your modem? The only thing that would come into play there is if there were too many spliters or devices hooked up to your coax cable coming from the pole. I've used voip phones since 2006 or so. Had comcast (originally @home when I first got it) since 2000. Yet nothing you have said makes sense, and how would you run a phone through your router? Did they add phone jacks into routers now? The most common modem / phone setup for comcast right now is the Arris modem. I currently have an Arris modem sitting here for just my phone, and a new motorola sb6120 docsis 3.0 modem for my internet so I get my 50/10 service on a separate coax line I had them run in. Please explain how signal strength made it impossible for you to have your phoneline upstairs or downstairs or whatever it was you were trying to say.

Sounds like you got some green tech that knew nothing of what he spoke. Kind of like the one I had when I called into activate this new modem and he told me I would have to connect the two modems together by using an ethernet cord. LOL I told him he was an idiot and to connect me with someone that had a clue of what they were talking about. lol 6 minutes later I had it activated.


Reminds me of the At&T guy that came around a few weeks ago trying to sell me on their fiber service. Telling me that I couldn't be getting the speeds comcast told me I would get, and that it was "burst" only, even though this service is not burst its a constant speed down and up. Then the at and t guy tells me they have 18 down, and would not no matter what tell me the rated upload speed, and I found out they are instructed not to discuss upload speeds. lol I ended up telling the guy to fuck off and get out of my driveway. lol

[eroticsexxx]

Are you fucking kidding me?

Google is your friend. Here, let me help you.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=magic+jack+strength+issues

Signal strength from your internet connection does indeed have an impact on Magic Jack's service. Feel free to sift through the thousands of complaints.

Does this mean your Magic Jack won't work just fine? No. But it can and does. As I said before. Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. Which is why I use them instead.

Buy a fucking Magic Jack. I could care less. But, as always, you get what you pay for.

You're a classic case of knowing just enough to think that you know what you're talking about. Didn't I just tell you that if your internet connection is crappy that neither magicjack nor vonage will work? That comcast guy got you completely confused.

The very first link in that google results page says exactly what I did. "Like any other VoIP service, call quality depends on your internet connection".

You talk about "signal strength" and start spouting gibberish about twisted pair when that clearly points to a problem with the internet connection itself, NOT the magicjack.

Again, if your internet connection has a problem from the break, magicjack and any other VoIP tech like Vonage, Net2phone, 8x8 (except for Skype as they use P2P tech to enhance their VoIP) will have a problem.

[Agent 488]

yeah man trippy i must be dreaming can't be real.

[stickyfingerz]

ahh, so don burns is a VP now?

gotcha.

i guess he was demoted from CEO and Chairman of the Board.

It was a year ago I had dinner with him so excuse me if I got some of the details a bit off. Didn't know there was a magic jack expert on these forums such as you. lmao.

whats your number Ill give you a call using a 10 10 220 card to discuss it

[Blackamooka]

Again, if your internet connection has a problem from the break, magicjack and any other VoIP tech like Vonage, Net2phone, 8x8 (except for Skype as they use P2P tech to enhance their VoIP) will have a problem.

Hey dipshit...Can you fucking read??? I said OVER and OVER that it was a problem with the internet connection. The signal at my moms house isn't strong enough and loses signal when moving out of the office. I also said that the reason I chose Vonage over not only Magic Jack, but Comcast phone service was because Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. My Vonage works just fine on connections that Magic Jack and Comcast phone would not, so you're fucking retarded and have no idea what you're talking about because I have experience with all three. Let me say it again..... Magic Jack has signal issues with crappy connections where Vonage does not. Pick up your fucking Magic Jack and call someone who can read so they can explain it to you jackass.

[stickyfingerz]

Hey dipshit...Can you fucking read??? I said OVER and OVER that it was a problem with the internet connection. The signal at my moms house isn't strong enough and loses packets when moving out of the office. I also said that the reason I chose Vonage over not only Magic Jack and Comcast phone service was because Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. My Vonage works just fine on connections that Magic Jack and Comcast phone would not, so you're fucking retarded and have no idea what you're talking about because I have experience with all three. Let me say it again..... Magic Jack has signal issues with crappy connections where Vonage does not. Pick up your fucking Magic Jack and call someone who can read so they can explain it to you jackass.

Comcast would be the best quality as its going directly through them for the actual phone connection and stays on their backbones to provide the service. Not sure how Vonage would supply a better "signal" than your actual isp.

[Blackamooka]

Comcast would be the best quality as its going directly through them for the actual phone connection and stays on their backbones to provide the service. Not sure how Vonage would supply a better "signal" than your actual isp.

lol....I just got done telling you that Comcast wouldn't even install the phone line on it because it didn't have a strong enough signal. Is it really that difficult to believe that different companies using different equipment/protocols would not have a different quality of service? You guys act like VOIP is some perfectly standardized technology. It's not.

Anyways, I'm done. You get what you pay for, that's all I'm gonna say.

[eroticsexxx]

Hey dipshit...Can you fucking read??? I said OVER and OVER that it was a problem with the internet connection. The signal at my moms house isn't strong enough and loses signal when moving out of the office. I also said that the reason I chose Vonage over not only Magic Jack and Comcast phone service was because Vonage is not as susceptible to these issues. My Vonage works just fine on connections that Magic Jack and Comcast phone would not, so you're fucking retarded and have no idea what you're talking about because I have experience with all three. Let me say it again..... Magic Jack has signal issues with crappy connections where Vonage does not. Pick up your fucking Magic Jack and call someone who can read so they can explain it to you jackass.

"The signal isn't strong enough and loses signal when moving out of the office?"

Yeah, methinks you may need a few lessons in how to properly explain a technical issue and I still call BS on what you said because if you actually knew that you were experiencing packet loss with your internet connection you would/should have gotten Comcast to fix the problem.

Then, on top of the problem that you claim you were aware of, you would rather pay monthly what you would have paid once with MagicJack for the same service that would work just fine if your internet wasn't crappy?

Yeap. You have issues.

[dyna mo]

It was a year ago

gotcha. thanks for clearing that up.

so a year ago 1 of the 2 original investors/founders of ymax, and also founder of telco communications was merely a VP of his own company.

good to know.

[stickyfingerz]

lol....I just got done telling you that Comcast wouldn't even install the phone line on it because it didn't have a strong enough signal. Is it really that difficult to believe that different companies using different equipment/protocols would not have a different quality of service? You guys act like VOIP is some perfectly standardized technology. It's not.

Anyways, I'm done. You get what you pay for, that's all I'm gonna say.

Strong enough signal to the modem? Because you were going on about the phones being plugged into the router... which makes even less sense.

Voip isn't perfect, and not sure where you got that idea from. The problem here is your use of terms makes no sense.

The first "signal" comes from the coax cable from comcast. If for some reason your "signal" is too low from there you are going to have a lot more problems than just phones not working. You will have problems with the modem even connecting to comcast so that would mean you wouldn't be online at all, or have the modem connecting and disconnecting all the time. That is an issue that would of been addressed by comcast right off. If you can get online and have a acceptable up/down speed you would have no problem with voip working. Voip uses very little bandwidth especially with comcast as they are setup differently than vonage and magic jack. Again you just don't seem to have a grasp of how it works and it sounds like some goof ball comcast tech got you even further confused.

[stickyfingerz]

gotcha. thanks for clearing that up.

so a year ago 1 of the 2 original investors/founders of ymax, and also founder of telco communications was merely a VP of his own company.

good to know.

I said I did not recall the details. I thought he had told me VP but really like I need to prove anything to an anon like you, and not sure why I would care to. lol I was told the history of the company by him over dinner. Go look and see if they do indeed have a DC in Nashville. Its on Molloy St downtown. Let me know if you figure it out then I can then allow you to have your "Jr. Detective" badge. Email me an address and Ill send it to you.

[JustDaveXxx]

lol....I just got done telling you that Comcast wouldn't even install the phone line on it because it didn't have a strong enough signal. Is it really that difficult to believe that different companies using different equipment/protocols would not have a different quality of service? You guys act like VOIP is some perfectly standardized technology. It's not.

Anyways, I'm done. You get what you pay for, that's all I'm gonna say.

WOW!!

Well i own my house in LA and i my speed is 18 down and 3 up and u got 2 magic jacks and never had a problem. Not one dropped call. Works perfect for me.



So i guess i get what i payed for right? My own house(not mom's), faster internet speeds, and 2 magic jacks that work fine.

[Blackamooka]

WOW!!

Well i own my house in LA and i my speed is 18 down and 3 up and u got 2 magic jacks and never had a problem. Not one dropped call. Works perfect for me.



So i guess i get what i payed for right? My own house(not mom's), faster internet speeds, and 2 magic jacks that work fine.

lol, I said I was done, but I can't resist. I never said that I LIVED at my mom's house. That should have been obvious when I said that she had Magic Jack and I have Vonage. Last but not least, take those savings you got from Magic Jack and pick up Hooked On Phonics.

[eroticsexxx]

You guys act like VOIP is some perfectly standardized technology. It's not.

Are you attempting to say that a technology that existed from before 1995 has not been standardized as yet in this year of 2009?



VoIP protocols have been improving consistently in terms of QoS/QoE from that time. Simple.

[SmokeyTheBear]

I know how it works, thanks. Still doesn't change the fact that hers loses signal outside of her office.

i dont think you do.. a cordless phone connects to the base , it has no idea who the provider is, furthermore your line quality has nothing to do with the location of where you stand. You are confusing 2 signals.. There is a signal that goes from your cordless phone to the base of the phone that is plugged in, this connectin has nothing to do with your line quality or what company service you use.. Then there is your LINE signal, this signal cannot be changed or reduced by moving the phone around your apartment, unless you are also moving the computer ( i.e. if your using a laptop )

I think you just explained it wrong

[DeadFidel]

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[JustDaveXxx]

i dont think you do.. a cordless phone connects to the base , it has no idea who the provider is, furthermore your line quality has nothing to do with the location of where you stand. You are confusing 2 signals.. There is a signal that goes from your cordless phone to the base of the phone that is plugged in, this connectin has nothing to do with your line quality or what company service you use.. Then there is your LINE signal, this signal cannot be changed or reduced by moving the phone around your apartment, unless you are also moving the computer ( i.e. if your using a laptop )

I think you just explained it wrong

you are 100 percent right. I dont think that it will get explained ant better.

[mikeyddddd]

The whole company is interesting. I had dinner with the Vice President (also the top or second to the top stockholder). And he gave me the full story on how everything came about. One of their main datacenters is here in Nashville actually.

Were you having sushi at the same place as Sleazy last night?

[jakethedog]

it has its problems up here in Canada .. So far you can only have a US incoming number .. so calling out is great .. shows up as where ever you choose to have your number from .. but .. calling back into it is to the US number .. therefore Long distance to everyone trying to call you back from their Canadian numbers ..

I have Unlimited Canadian long distance and use Skype for out going long distance to the US/Globe.. and a Skypein number and use it to forward directly to my cell number so people dealing with me in L.A. call the local L.A. number and I get the call up here in Canada .. cheap as hell for me and free for L.A. guys calling me ....