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  • thumbdesigner
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2005
    • 1070

    #1

    Are there other unpaid designers by python, pythonpays, dollarmachine etc. owner comp

    I give them a try 2 years ago, we did a huge but very urgent project. We used full people resource we have.
    They prepaid 1/6 of the project. then other 5/6th 6 months after project finalization.

    I had tons of almost templated emails like:

    "Your invoice is in the high priority queue. Ill let you know when it
    gets paid." or "We will pay you friday" (friday after few months)
    I lost 2 great employees because of no cash to pay them .. However that is history,
    ------------------------------------------

    The present is not very different..

    We did a project for them 40 days ago. (yeah its short but I can't wait till 2010th) The projects was very urgent. So we did it in 1-2 days.
    I thought they are different from last time, but NO they aren't. We have invoices pending..
    I can say thats OK, everybody can delay.

    The problem comes from that they even don't want to hear me. The project manager says: talk to this guy XXX ICQ:XXXX
    but he is not answer..

    Oh no he answer my email last week.
    "Your invoice is in the high priority queue. Ill let you know when it
    gets paid."

    Unfortunately he even have no idea that number of invoices is not one ..

    for 40 days they request to send the invoices 4 times because they are lost..

    So the scheme is clear. They order aways URGENT designs. They need the projects TODAY so no time for prepayments.
    Ones designer deliver the project, everybody is offline, or just not answer of emails or anything. .


    Designers, please share your experiences with that company here. I am pretty sure I am not alone

    ICQ: 342 - 571 - 754 OR MSN: thumbdesigner(@hotmail.com)
  • tranza
    ICQ: 197-556-237
    • Jun 2003
    • 57559

    #2
    That's a bump for you bro
    I'm just a newbie.

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    • seeandsee
      Check SIG!
      • Mar 2006
      • 50945

      #3
      did they pay you for first fuckout?
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      • Tulku
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2003
        • 672

        #4
        Bump for answer from the company and other designers ..

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        • sandman!
          Icq: 14420613
          • Mar 2001
          • 15431

          #5
          yea i did a deal with someone from them before that ended up getting fired and i never got paid not alot of $$$ but a reason i never do deals with people without pre payment up front especially big companies.
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          • sitefarmer
            Confirmed User
            • Oct 2006
            • 403

            #6
            their accounting is crap .. I had similar problems with them before... I don't belive they will pay you this time sorry
            Graphic Designer & Digital Marketing Enthusiast

            Behance - Mainstream projects

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            • DateDoc
              Outside looking in.
              • Feb 2005
              • 14243

              #7
              bump for $$

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              • AudreyG
                Confirmed User
                • May 2008
                • 225

                #8
                Originally posted by thumbdesigner
                I give them a try 2 years ago, we did a huge but very urgent project. We used full people resource we have.
                They prepaid 1/6 of the project. then other 5/6th 6 months after project finalization.

                I had tons of almost templated emails like:

                "Your invoice is in the high priority queue. Ill let you know when it
                gets paid." or "We will pay you friday" (friday after few months)
                I lost 2 great employees because of no cash to pay them .. However that is history,
                ------------------------------------------

                The present is not very different..

                We did a project for them 40 days ago. (yeah its short but I can't wait till 2010th) The projects was very urgent. So we did it in 1-2 days.
                I thought they are different from last time, but NO they aren't. We have invoices pending..
                I can say thats OK, everybody can delay.

                The problem comes from that they even don't want to hear me. The project manager says: talk to this guy XXX ICQ:XXXX
                but he is not answer..

                Oh no he answer my email last week.
                "Your invoice is in the high priority queue. Ill let you know when it
                gets paid."

                Unfortunately he even have no idea that number of invoices is not one ..

                for 40 days they request to send the invoices 4 times because they are lost..

                So the scheme is clear. They order aways URGENT designs. They need the projects TODAY so no time for prepayments.
                Ones designer deliver the project, everybody is offline, or just not answer of emails or anything. .


                Designers, please share your experiences with that company here. I am pretty sure I am not alone
                Hey,

                I'm sorry you are frustrated with our accounting. I'm doing my best to get you settled quickly. I did mention at the beginning that we do not have a 30 days turnaround, but a 60 days turnaround time to settle invoices. I'm on icq if you have questions.
                AudreyG

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                • Deej
                  I make pixels work
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 24386

                  #9
                  Originally posted by AudreyG
                  Hey,

                  I'm sorry you are frustrated with our accounting. I'm doing my best to get you settled quickly. I did mention at the beginning that we do not have a 30 days turnaround, but a 60 days turnaround time to settle invoices. I'm on icq if you have questions.
                  wait wait wait...

                  you order 'urgent' designs yet you have a policy in place that keeps invoices unpaid for a minimum of 2 months?

                  Deej's Designs n' What Not
                  Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching


                  Icq#30096880

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                  • PSD CSS XHTML
                    Confirmed User
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 546

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Deej
                    wait wait wait...

                    you order 'urgent' designs yet you have a policy in place that keeps invoices unpaid for a minimum of 2 months?
                    good to know

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                    • commonsense
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1790

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Deej
                      wait wait wait...

                      you order 'urgent' designs yet you have a policy in place that keeps invoices unpaid for a minimum of 2 months?
                      Brilliant ain't it?



                      The reason is hoping the service provider goes out of business before needing to settle the account.

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                      • AudreyG
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2008
                        • 225

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Deej
                        wait wait wait...

                        you order 'urgent' designs yet you have a policy in place that keeps invoices unpaid for a minimum of 2 months?
                        2 months turnaround time is not unheard of in this business. He will get paid and I'm doing my best to make sure he gets paid within that time period. Some designers request 50% upfront without starting on the job and we are happy to proceed this way as well.
                        AudreyG

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                        • sitefarmer
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 403

                          #13
                          a bumpppp
                          Last edited by sitefarmer; 07-13-2009, 09:58 AM.
                          Graphic Designer & Digital Marketing Enthusiast

                          Behance - Mainstream projects

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                          • Deej
                            I make pixels work
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 24386

                            #14
                            Originally posted by AudreyG
                            2 months turnaround time is not unheard of in this business. He will get paid and I'm doing my best to make sure he gets paid within that time period. Some designers request 50% upfront without starting on the job and we are happy to proceed this way as well.
                            well sure its not unheard of, with affiliate pay and such. BUt you are wanting goods right away in return for a delay in pay? Any self respecting designer dosnt want to do urgent work to hopefully be paid in 2 months.

                            perhaps you should preplan your design projects by 1.5 months if you must keep such a policy.

                            Deej's Designs n' What Not
                            Hit me up for Design, CSS & Photo Retouching


                            Icq#30096880

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                            • BradM
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 3397

                              #15
                              I have now followed python and instituted a "I might pay you in a few months or whatever" policy also.

                              Everyone send me $1k it's urgent.

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                              • thumbdesigner
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 1070

                                #16
                                Originally posted by AudreyG
                                Hey,

                                I'm sorry you are frustrated with our accounting. I'm doing my best to get you settled quickly. I did mention at the beginning that we do not have a 30 days turnaround, but a 60 days turnaround time to settle invoices. I'm on icq if you have questions.
                                I am glad the payguy suddenly started getting emails .. so he saw this thread/send to you..
                                I have reviewed my emails/ICQ, also I do remember the conversations in details.. nobody mention anything about 30 or 60 days turnaround.

                                However, I will bump this tread if no payments till 5 August, then 60 days will be reached.

                                ICQ: 342 - 571 - 754 OR MSN: thumbdesigner(@hotmail.com)

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                                • AudreyG
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2008
                                  • 225

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by thumbdesigner
                                  I am glad the payguy suddenly started getting emails .. so he saw this thread/send to you..
                                  I have reviewed my emails/ICQ, also I do remember the conversations in details.. nobody mention anything about 30 or 60 days turnaround.

                                  However, I will bump this tread if no payments till 5 August, then 60 days will be reached.
                                  You will get paid before then. In the meantime, you know you can reach me by email or icq. I haven't ignored you so far...
                                  AudreyG

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                                  • BoardGoerge
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2005
                                    • 637

                                    #18
                                    bump for the 2 months urgent policy
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                                    • thumbdesigner
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2005
                                      • 1070

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by AudreyG
                                      You will get paid before then. In the meantime
                                      I hope so, I know you do the best to bring the cash. I hope those who really send payments to hear you.

                                      Originally posted by AudreyG
                                      In the meantime, you know you can reach me by email or icq.
                                      Well, we discussed everything many times. Its helpless to bumping you anymore..


                                      Originally posted by AudreyG
                                      I haven't ignored you so far...
                                      Don't take it personal, you are nice guy and I know the problem is not in you. Thank you

                                      ICQ: 342 - 571 - 754 OR MSN: thumbdesigner(@hotmail.com)

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                                      • AudreyG
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • May 2008
                                        • 225

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by thumbdesigner
                                        Don't take it personal, you are nice guy and I know the problem is not in you. Thank you
                                        We'll get it all sorted. And ps: I'm a girl not a guy...
                                        AudreyG

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