A dozen DON'Ts for webmasters...

[Juicy D. Links]

From: http://blogs.openforum.com/2009/06/3...entrepreneurs/

Do you agree with this?

I like this

#7

Don?t believe that the exception is the rule. This is called the Twitter Effect. It goes like this, ?We?re focusing on usage and eyeballs like Twitter. We?re not that concerned about revenue right now. Look how valuable everyone thinks Twitter is. We?ll be just like that.? Twitter is the exception. Facebook is the exception. YouTube is the exception. There, I listed all the exceptions. Everyone else needs revenue asap, or you will #fail.

I am not sure I agree with #1 though

Don?t worry, be crappy. Perfectionism, first of all, is an illusion. Nothing is perfect. Even worse, perfection stands in the way of revenue and truly learning what customers think because nothing is in their hands yet. When your product is ?good enough? (but not ?perfect?), ship it, and see what happens.

The "build it and optimize later" approach might work if you're the first person doing a particular business model but in adult..... good luck with that cuz you'll see your lunch get eaten in front of you--QUICKLY. So always start with your best shot. "Good enough" might not cut it.

[Juicy D. Links]

Yes and know u r all shocked that I havent posted something like this style since 01 but get used to it

[EscortBiz]

most likely written by a guy who is either a vc himself or sat in and saw these clowns come in with their annoying BS

problem is everyone got a cheerleader in their life, so many men consult their girlfriends or their friend who has 0 on what to do and how to do it, the results show overtime.

most will just get poorer by the day because they listen to broke people

its why alcoholics stay alcoholics because when they go to the AA program they hook you up with a sponsor that has drinking issues.

I love pointing people in the right direction but they seem to prefer taking advice from those who never made a penny in their life then they turn to me for loans.

[Si]

Yes and know u r all shocked that I havent posted something like this style since 01 but get used to it

you mean you won't be posting any mens asses and taking part in the bromance anymore?

[Juicy D. Links]

you mean you won't be posting any mens asses and taking part in the bromance anymore?

No worries there will still be ass posts

[James124]

where's empfänger??

[Iron Fist]

This thread isn't gay... which means this thread is gay.

[fuzebox]

The "build it and optimize later" approach might work if you're the first person doing a particular business model but in adult..... good luck with that cuz you'll see your lunch get eaten in front of you--QUICKLY. So always start with your best shot. "Good enough" might not cut it.

I think the problem is a lot of people will sit on a project/product for years while trying to get every detail finished... I personally think getting a semi-finished product out there to start building traffic and generating revenue is a good thing.

[Juicy D. Links]

most likely written by a guy who is either a vc himself or sat in and saw these clowns come in with their annoying BS

It was written by Guy Kawasaki, a very very influential dude in Northern California VC circles... I've read business plans online supposedly prepared by MBAs. Seems like these dudes flunked "How to write effectively 101" lollll

[Juicy D. Links]

This thread isn't gay... which means this thread is gay.

Damn... Ghey if you do, Ghey if you don't. Lollll

[SBJ]

I think the problem is a lot of people will sit on a project/product for years while trying to get every detail finished... I personally think getting a semi-finished product out there to start building traffic and generating revenue is a good thing.

I somewhat agree with this. I think the basics should be there and the important details and basic tools to promote should be there before you think about putting it out. But I don't think a new webmaster should have to pay out $20k to get the top of the line affiliate software and design for his first site.

I say grow with your program but know what you are doing before you start. You can have more than one chance to grow but if you fuck up big time with newbie mistakes you might not get a second chance.

[gnet]

The problem with most online business plans is they try to predict user behaviors. You can have a site that offers 10 unique features. You may believe your users will focus on feature 1, 2, and 3 meanwhile your users are drawn to the least expected feature on your site.

User behavior is very difficult to predict for web users are extremely fickle folks.

Who would've predicted that Facebook's status message feature would've grown into what it is today?

[jmcb420]

It was written by Guy Kawasaki, a very very influential dude in Northern California VC circles... I've read business plans online supposedly prepared by MBAs. Seems like these dudes flunked "How to write effectively 101" lollll

Juicy, Guy Kawasaki wrote a book years ago called "How To Drive Your Competition Crazy" (if its the same guy)

When my friend and I went in on a construction business together a few years back, we used that book as a roadmap to build our business and we did very well until the housing market went out the window. I have since sold my part of the company and moved on, but I have to say I guarantee that without that book and the nuts to carry out some of the ideas in it, we would have been belly up in the first year.

That dude is a business and marketing genius. Thank you for posting that.

[Juicy D. Links]

Juicy, Guy Kawasaki wrote a book years ago called "How To Drive Your Competition Crazy" (if its the same guy)

When my friend and I went in on a construction business together a few years back, we used that book as a roadmap to build our business and we did very well until the housing market went out the window. I have since sold my part of the company and moved on, but I have to say I guarantee that without that book and the nuts to carry out some of the ideas in it, we would have been belly up in the first year.

That dude is a business and marketing genius. Thank you for posting that.

Thanks,Jmc

Guy Kawasaki also got wealthy from many dot com and software company deals. He's in on the ground floor on many dot com deals--either as an angel investor or as a VC "go to" investor. He definitely walks his talk.

[The Judge]

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[GrouchyAdmin]

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[mynameisjim]

I agree with the build it and optimize later but with two caveats.

1) You need to have a good instinct for "good enough" over slapped together.

2) You need to be flexible and make the proper changes once it's launched. That means that sales and numbers dictate changes, not your own ideas about what the product or service should be or what YOU think the customer wants.

TV shows are a perfect example of this and easy to spot because there is a visual record. Most shows look totally different by the 5th season than the first season. Even though it was a success the first season, the characters and look of the show is usually very different. When you go back and watch the early episodes you almost wonder how people even liked the show to begin with, but they did.

[MikeSmoke]

Who are you...and what have you done with JDL???????

[SBJ]

Who are you...and what have you done with JDL???????

haha no doubt! sounds like someone hacked his account and thinks they can talk biz with his 113k post count.. We see right through you hacker! bring back the real juicy!

[Barefootsies]

I love pointing people in the right direction but they seem to prefer taking advice from those who never made a penny in their life then they turn to me for loans.

[tony286]

I think the problem is a lot of people will sit on a project/product for years while trying to get every detail finished... I personally think getting a semi-finished product out there to start building traffic and generating revenue is a good thing.

I agree there have been 6 different versions of our site in the 9yrs is been up. If we waited til our skills and the site was perfect it wouldnt of happened.

[Sly]

I agree there have been 6 different versions of our site in the 9yrs is been up. If we waited til our skills and the site was perfect it wouldnt of happened.

Absolutely, Tony.

The funniest thing about a perfectionist is no matter how perfect a project is, it will never be perfect. Employers have a difficult time with perfectionists... sometimes, and actually a lot of times, deadlines are far more important than one little tiny baby detail that in the grand scheme of things really doesn't matter.

[Grapesoda]

most likely written by a guy who is either a vc himself or sat in and saw these clowns come in with their annoying BS

problem is everyone got a cheerleader in their life, so many men consult their girlfriends or their friend who has 0 on what to do and how to do it, the results show overtime.

most will just get poorer by the day because they listen to broke people

its why alcoholics stay alcoholics because when they go to the AA program they hook you up with a sponsor that has drinking issues.

I love pointing people in the right direction but they seem to prefer taking advice from those who never made a penny in their life then they turn to me for loans.

I'm like on the listen to the guys been there bandwagon myself

[selena]

I think the problem is a lot of people will sit on a project/product for years while trying to get every detail finished... I personally think getting a semi-finished product out there to start building traffic and generating revenue is a good thing.

I fall into that trap. It's hard for me to just make things workable, and then fly with it, making needed adjustments. I want everything to be just so, and the end result of that is not getting anything running.

And who took over Juicy's computer?

[Va2k]

most likely written by a guy who is either a vc himself or sat in and saw these clowns come in with their annoying BS

problem is everyone got a cheerleader in their life, so many men consult their girlfriends or their friend who has 0 on what to do and how to do it, the results show overtime.

most will just get poorer by the day because they listen to broke people

its why alcoholics stay alcoholics because when they go to the AA program they hook you up with a sponsor that has drinking issues.

I love pointing people in the right direction but they seem to prefer taking advice from those who never made a penny in their life then they turn to me for loans.

I'm ready to listen!!!

[Juicy D. Links]

And who took over Juicy's computer?

I let my dad post under my nick when he gets bored

[Juicy D. Links]

I love pointing people in the right direction but they seem to prefer taking advice from those who never made a penny in their life then they turn to me for loans.

I love it also when people who think they are like almost your "blood relatives" have the balls to ask for $$$$ and a significant amount also for there "project"' or business idea

I know exactly what you mean EB

[blonda80]

i like #1

[NY Jester]

9. Don’t build out your infrastructure.

Very true. I was going to expand my mainstream side of business by hiring a sales person and another designer, then I decided to actually cut my bottom 15% of customers and put another 2 hours in a day to soley mainstream projects/clients and I have increased my bottom line significantly..without "feeding" anyone else. The extra income stayed in my pocket.

[Nicky]

Pretty good list I'd say.

[D Ghost]

yeah i like #7 the best...