WARNING PROGRAMMERS! Seekster Reselling Nulled Scripts.

[Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Just a heads up I saw this thread and thought it was funny, keep an eye out for this guy, he's reselling nulled tube scripts, I will be spending some time today contacting all authors of the scripts he's selling in this thread, and reporting him to them.

I hate people who do that shit, and would MURDER anyone I find nulling my scripts and reselling them.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=914329

[Si]

Here are the scripts being "sold with resale rights"

Automagick (even says patched on the folder)
Adult Watch V3
AdultVideoScript 1.2.2
BitsVideoScript
FFM Full Adult Video Tube Site
and a Red Tube "clone"

[Babaganoosh]

Contact paypal too. They'll kill his account and keep his money.

[Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Awesome thanks for that Mobilefun.

[Zorgman]

That sounds fucken suss. Reseller rights of 5 products, valued over $500 and its $9.95.

Fuck off. What a wank!

[Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Hey, atleast TEVS isn't in there. :P

[fusionx]

What does "nulled" mean in this context? I've not heard that term before.

[Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Nulled means they removed any possible way for the original author to control it.

Some authors will put call home features into their scripts, to validate licenses and stuff like that, if the license comes back invalid it will pass a parameter to the script that will disable the script until a valid license is put in.

Nulling it, removes that feature.

[Si]

Well I knew something wasn't right.

6 scripts for $9.99?

And if any of the owners of these scripts would like more info please feel free to contact me on icq: 457-155-149

[Zorgman]

That's why I encode my software, so little fucks can't resell it.

If it's not nailed down you only have yourself to blame.
I released many scripts over the last 9 years and a lot of them got ripped, renamed, resold and I never saw a cent of income from them. Infact my first script I ever wrote is being used on about 5,000 sites still. But within the first week it was renamed and sold by some wanker in India.

[Si]

this is what he has posted on the paypal dispute:

i have posted the download link the client has received his item he has posted that he did on the dispute and now he is pretty much letting me know that allthough he received the item he still wont cancel the dispute on his side threathening to get me in trouble with paypal if i don't refund his payment

Fucking cheeky cunt

[Zorgman]

Tell them it's for PORN OR WAREZ scripts.

[Carmine Raguso]

I just bought one from him and it works PERFECTLY! Why pay top dollar? It's all about stealing yo!

an hero rep or developer is needed in this thread to keep it up top

[Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE]

That's why I encode my software, so little fucks can't resell it.

If it's not nailed down you only have yourself to blame.
I released many scripts over the last 9 years and a lot of them got ripped, renamed, resold and I never saw a cent of income from them. Infact my first script I ever wrote is being used on about 5,000 sites still. But within the first week it was renamed and sold by some wanker in India.

Yeah, I hear ya, I'm debating if I want to encode my products or not... Leaning towards encoding. You use Ioncube or Zend?

[Babaganoosh]

Don't waste your money encoding scripts. Every single method of encoding has been cracked. It may deter single webmasters who want to use your script on a few sites without paying for additional licenses but there will always be some dirtbag kid on blackhatworld or a similar site who will null it, upload it to rapidshare and make it available to everyone. Those kids have a strange sense of entitlement. They act like they have the right to steal your work. I don't get it.

[Babaganoosh]

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=899639 for a little discussion from a while back about encoders.

[just a punk]

Ah those Canadian scammers Hope my scripts are not among those he sells.

[borked]

If it's not nailed down you only have yourself to blame.

Is this why tube sites are accepted in this community?
Does this mean I can download demo software and put in a keygen and get fully working software?

You are in a luxury position to be able to afford a $1k+/yr license to encode your scripts, but it doesn't mean others are. They go to lengths to "hide" the licensing controls, doesn't mean they deserve to have them broken and ripped. Adobe et al I'm sure share your sentiment on rules to take to encrypt stuff.

Just because your software is Zend encoded, doesn't mean it can't be hacked - anyone with a valid license and root access can decode how your software licenses the software, since PHP is a run-time environment

Thanks for the headsup Killswitch - this scum needs banning.

[borked]

Yeah, I hear ya, I'm debating if I want to encode my products or not... Leaning towards encoding. You use Ioncube or Zend?

we are not strangers - if you want your stuff encoding, send it over to me, or give me svn access and I'll encode it for you and provide you with the zend key should I ever die a horrible death.

Don't fork out this huge annual price for encoding....

[k0nr4d]

de-zending doesn't get you the same as the original sources

[Zorgman]

Killswitch, I use ZEND.

Why would you release a script if you were not going to make over $1k ?

It's just part of the running of a business, I spend over 1k on my server each yeah, why not spend it on something that will protect my code too?

Is this why tube sites are accepted in this community?
They are accepted in the community because they do their job. Some are bad and steal, most are not. I have over 900 webmasters using TEVS now and all (but a few) are using sponsors approved videos.

[Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Sorry, but I'm leaning with Zorgman on this... I am wanting to encode my scripts, I am new to product scripts, as I've always done free lance custom work so I never really had a problem with others stealing the code due to only 1 person having it.

If encoding it will deter retards like this seekster guy from reselling my code, than that's awesome, but not putting any encoding on it will just be inviting anybody who can read a little code to rip your shit out and resell it.

I'd rather not fight with those tards and just spend my time, or cash on going after the big time guys like ScriptMafia.

[Klen]

Don't waste your money encoding scripts. Every single method of encoding has been cracked. It may deter single webmasters who want to use your script on a few sites without paying for additional licenses but there will always be some dirtbag kid on blackhatworld or a similar site who will null it, upload it to rapidshare and make it available to everyone. Those kids have a strange sense of entitlement. They act like they have the right to steal your work. I don't get it.

Encoding works,especially if you use ion cube,there are maybe some private decoders but since they charge fortune i doubt anyone will try to use them.But zend definitely should be avoided at all cost,since there is available free dezender program everywhere.

[borked]

de-zending doesn't get you the same as the original sources

I never said it did

[GrouchyAdmin]

IonCube is stronger. Just my

[borked]

Killswitch, I use ZEND.

To say though that you only have yourself to blame by not encoding though is a very pompous situation to take. I know your tube script is paysite-friendly, and you are encoding to protect your interests, but to say that these other guys, your competition, get your cheek turned elsewhere with the arrogant "your own own fault" snobbery is like saying
because I choose to have a key and 7combo 12 figure combination locked safe in my basement for the things I never ever want stolen I have the right to say to the 80-year old neighbour next door who gets robbed and her entire life savings stolen "I told you so"

You lock your house to the limit and burglars will still get in. You lock your prized possessions in a safe, and really determined burglars will still get in.

Doesn't mean that my granny dear neighbour who doesn't spend 5 grand on a good safe deserves having her shit stolen.

[Babaganoosh]

Encoding works,especially if you use ion cube,there are maybe some private decoders but since they charge fortune i doubt anyone will try to use them.But zend definitely should be avoided at all cost,since there is available free dezender program everywhere.

I know a site that charges $15 per file. That's hardly expensive. They can do ioncube too.

[Young]

I personally would never buy an encoded script. I would

1. Seek an OpenSource alternative
2. Do it myself
3. Visit RentaCoder.com

and I know there are many many others out there like me.

Encoding the script is not the answer....the same way that proprietary streams and bullshit plugins is not the answer for content distribution.

Do I know the answer? No.

But I guess if someone is looking for a turn-key solution and doesn't know a line of php from a line of Shakespeare they could give 2 shits

[Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I personally would never buy an encoded script. I would

1. Seek an OpenSource alternative
2. Do it myself
3. Visit RentaCoder.com

and I know there are many many others out there like me.

Encoding the script is not the answer....the same way that proprietary streams and bullshit plugins is not the answer for content distribution.

Do I know the answer? No.

But I guess if someone is looking for a turn-key solution and doesn't know a line of php from a line of Shakespeare they could give 2 shits

I thought about that also... That's why I will be offering none encoded versions of my scripts... Except at a exceptionally hire price to weed out those people who want to redistribute it.

[Si]

since we are on the subject of script stealing.

What are your thoughts on this site: http://ravan.info/_catalog/php_scrip...e_script_v_1.2

They are selling an MMORPG Script (Something which I have been looking in to)

And I notice the demo site they are using: http://ravan.info/mmorpg.demo

is just a iFrame of an actual website.

The thing which gets my attention is that the mafia curruption script was developed by another company which sells it for around $500-1,000 (can't remember the excact price)

So either they are selling a stolen script or using the other site as false advertsining?

What do you reckon?

[Klen]

I know a site that charges $15 per file. That's hardly expensive. They can do ioncube too.

126x15=1890$
I don't see sense giving 1890$ for decoding one script just to see is it everything ok.

[d-null]

.....
an hero rep or developer is needed in this thread to keep it up top

[ScareCrowe]

I say if you can encode your scripts, do so. Maybe it won't do much to protect the scripts themselves, but if you ever find yourself in a position to take legal action, I would think the fact you encoded them would go a long way to solidify your case in court.

[d-null]

I say if you can encode your scripts, do so. Maybe it won't do much to protect the scripts themselves, but if you ever find yourself in a position to take legal action, I would think the fact you encoded them would go a long way to solidify your case in court.

maybe, but how are you going to prove who nulled them? and once they are nulled, there might be an argument for the fact that the software is not even the original code anymore? (just thinking/asking out loud, no idea how the legalities of this work myself)

[ScareCrowe]

maybe, but how are you going to prove who nulled them? and once they are nulled, there might be an argument for the fact that the software is not even the original code anymore? (just thinking/asking out loud, no idea how the legalities of this work myself)

good point, I was thinking aloud too. Probably won't help you with proving who did it, just more to make sure there is no confusion for the judge that you didn't intend the scripts to be used the way they are. You know, like the dirtbag trying to say they thought it was open source or they had rights to modify it. That would not be the case if you can show you released the scripts in encoded format only.

[$5 submissions]

Yet another sign of GFY turning into DP?

[sysk]

If this is true, this guy is a fucking idiot and should be banned for life.

[Zorgman]

I know your tube script is paysite-friendly, and you are encoding to protect your interests, but to say that these other guys, your competition, get your cheek turned elsewhere with the arrogant "your own own fault" snobbery is like saying
because I choose to have a key and 7combo 12 figure combination locked safe in my basement for the things I never ever want stolen I have the right to say to the 80-year old neighbour next door who gets robbed and her entire life savings stolen "I told you so"

You lock your house to the limit and burglars will still get in. You lock your prized possessions in a safe, and really determined burglars will still get in.
Doesn't mean that my granny dear neighbour who doesn't spend 5 grand on a good safe deserves having her shit stolen.

1. I don't care what my competition do. That's not my business.

2. Safe, basement, 80 year old neighbour, your granny neighbour.. wtf! Are you talking about scripts still? or is this some type of sick fetish you have!

3. I run my scripts with a business plan, Im here to make money just like everyone else. If I choose to encode my software, it's done to protect from fuck heads that resell software they don't own. If others choose not to or can't afford it then that's not my issue. That's yours and your need to work that out yourself. Blaming me because you can't afford $1k software to encode your scripts is a joke.

[borked]

1. I don't care what my competition do. That's not my business.

Firstly, I never said you are sticking your nose into your competition, reread what I wrote, but good luck to you if you don't care what they are doing.

2. Safe, basement, 80 year old neighbour, your granny neighbour.. wtf! Are you talking about scripts still? or is this some type of sick fetish you have!

Are you capable of understanding analogies or do you not care for those either? Let me simplify it - you said if you don't encrypt, it's your own fault. Well, I'll tell my dear biddy neighbour that it's her own fault that she had her life ripped, cos she only locked her doors and windows.

3. I run my scripts with a business plan, Im here to make money just like everyone else. If I choose to encode my software, it's done to protect from fuck heads that resell software they don't own. If others choose not to or can't afford it then that's not my issue. That's yours and your need to work that out yourself. Blaming me because you can't afford $1k software to encode your scripts is a joke.

[/quote]

I encrypt my scripts in certain situations to stop larger developers from stealing my ideas. Once bitten, twice shy and all that. Everyone has a reason. However, I don't condone stealing scripts yet, and this is where we clearly differ, I don't blame the developer for having not encrypted their script once they get ripped. I blame the thief.