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  • Shoplifter
    Richest man in Babylon
    • Jan 2002
    • 5853

    #1

    Google experts: How is this guy doing it?

    Check out this search:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...TF-8&q=bukkake

    Take a look at result #7 japanbukkake.com.

    This guy has no relevant text at all in his source...Is he picking up term relevancy solely through links? Or is he cheating.

    Last month he was also #4 for the term "japanese girl" without any text of the sort as well.
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  • SicChild
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 365

    #2
    Well, I'm no google expert, but he has bukkake in his domain name. I'm sure that helps a lot.

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    • Pipecrew
      Master of Gfy.com
      • Feb 2002
      • 14888

      #3
      Originally posted by Shoplifter
      Check out this search:

      http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...TF-8&q=bukkake

      Take a look at result #7 japanbukkake.com.

      This guy has no relevant text at all in his source...Is he picking up term relevancy solely through links? Or is he cheating.

      Last month he was also #4 for the term "japanese girl" without any text of the sort as well.

      Probably cheating, that company use to cheat movie galleries all the time intill they were blacklisted everywhere

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      • goBigtime
        Confirmed User
        • Nov 2002
        • 7761

        #4
        I know why I know why

        And yeah he gets some points for having bukkake in the domain.

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        • Shoplifter
          Richest man in Babylon
          • Jan 2002
          • 5853

          #5
          Originally posted by SicChild
          Well, I'm no google expert, but he has bukkake in his domain name. I'm sure that helps a lot.
          If it was japan_bukkake then maybe.

          Either he is Google bombing with relevant link terms or cheating.
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          • detacided
            Registered User
            • Oct 2002
            • 83

            #6
            This months update put ALOT more relavancy on the anchor text meaning the incoming links description. This company having bukkake in its domain probably has alot of links containing the text bukkake. It is really not cheating. Just from now on try to get your keywords in the anchor text as well as on your site.
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            • FATPad
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2001
              • 6693

              #7
              Probably just cloaking his page.
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              • roly
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2002
                • 1844

                #8
                Originally posted by FATPad
                Probably just cloaking his page.
                though if he was, wouldn't you be able to see the clocked version in the cached view?

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                • MattO
                  The O is for Oohhh
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 10861

                  #9
                  Originally posted by roly


                  though if he was, wouldn't you be able to see the clocked version in the cached view?
                  yep plus anyone who's cloaking oughtta put the nocache in their metatags so they aren't cached

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                  • robfantasy
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 6445

                    #10
                    boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketai
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                    • jojojo
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 2318

                      #11
                      This guy is not cloaking.

                      He is coming up 7th because:

                      1. This site has a PR4 with 50 backlinks.
                      2. He has the word bukkake in his domain
                      3. He has the word bukkake in his title.
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                      • FATPad
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 6693

                        #12
                        Originally posted by roly


                        though if he was, wouldn't you be able to see the clocked version in the cached view?
                        Yes. ;) I didn't check though.
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                        • RRRED
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 6754

                          #13
                          I'm a bit behind on my google knowledge but you might want to try putting the url into the alta vista translate page from french to english. That used to work anyway if they had a shitty cloak.

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                          • xxxjay
                            Tube groupie.
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13482

                            #14
                            the text of you incomeing links is a big deal. if you type:
                            http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...nt&q=hot+snizz

                            i have #1 for that, with those word nowhere on the page. it's because is used those words in sopme old recip text that i am not even using anymore, but a lot of people still have those links pointing at me

                            googlewhacking isn't cheating - it's good manipulation of the google "page reputation" algorythm
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                            • AdultNex
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 8985

                              #15
                              Originally posted by xxxjay
                              the text of you incomeing links is a big deal. if you type:
                              http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...nt&q=hot+snizz

                              i have #1 for that, with those word nowhere on the page. it's because is used those words in sopme old recip text that i am not even using anymore, but a lot of people still have those links pointing at me

                              googlewhacking isn't cheating - it's good manipulation of the google "page reputation" algorythm
                              So that's what Googlewhacking is? Nice tip, btw.

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                              • cool1g
                                Confirmed User
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 976

                                #16
                                just wondering...if I have a link on my site to another site that has a high PR and Alexa ranking, but that site does not link back to me, does that help my PR or ranking at all?

                                I assume not but i wanted some input from those that know the SE/Google game well.
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                                • Ludedude
                                  Suck it!
                                  • Jun 2001
                                  • 4432

                                  #17
                                  Dude, you don't have to know SE's to know that if a site is not linking back to you then you get nothing.

                                  Zero.

                                  Zip.

                                  Zilch.

                                  Nada.

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                                  • HS-Trixxxia
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2002
                                    • 2946

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jojojo
                                    This guy is not cloaking.

                                    He is coming up 7th because:

                                    1. This site has a PR4 with 50 backlinks.
                                    2. He has the word bukkake in his domain
                                    3. He has the word bukkake in his title.
                                    --------And--------

                                    He's placed in 7 of 11 search engines.
                                    Alltheweb No
                                    AltaVista Yes www.japanbukkake.com
                                    AOL Yes www.japanbukkake.com
                                    Dmoz No
                                    Google/ AOL Yes www.japanbukkake.com
                                    HotBot/ Inktomi Yes JapanBukkake.com
                                    Lycos Pro No
                                    MSN Yes JapanBukkake.com
                                    Netscape Yes www.japanbukkake.com
                                    Teoma No
                                    WiseNut Yes JapanBukkake.com


                                    And basically of the few words he has on his page, bukkake is repeated 2-3 times. So percentage wise, I believe it's a little over 30.

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                                    • pornguy
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 62910

                                      #19
                                      I only have one thing to say to that guy!
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                                      • ghetto
                                        Registered User
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 3

                                        #20
                                        This does seem a little suspicous the way he is ranking so well with no meta tags...

                                        interesting because 50 links back is not many at all and to rank in the top 7.....though the competition for that keyword is so small that he should have no problems at all reaching number 1 if he just mentioned "bukkake" a few more times...

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                                        • Donnie Gangsta
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Mar 2002
                                          • 1104

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by robfantasy
                                          boku ha kanojo ni mizu wo bukkaketai
                                          bukkaketai ga kotoba ja nai .. but anyway tabun bukkake shitai to iu koto no hou ga ii kanaa

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                                          • jojojo
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Mar 2002
                                            • 2318

                                            #22
                                            This does seem a little suspicous the way he is ranking so well with no meta tags...
                                            Google does not read meta tags.
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                                            • xxxjay
                                              Tube groupie.
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 13482

                                              #23
                                              ludedude - outbound link DO count, maybe not as much as inbound, but they do count

                                              jojojo - yes you are exactly right - google does not index meta content (other than the "noindex")
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                                              • jojojo
                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                • Mar 2002
                                                • 2318

                                                #24
                                                Jay - hit me up on ICQ bro
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                                                • DarkJedi
                                                  No Refunds Issued.
                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                  • 28301

                                                  #25
                                                  hmm.....I dont see 50 linkbacks.
                                                  I see only 4.

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                                                  • funkmaster
                                                    So Fucking Banned
                                                    • Sep 2001
                                                    • 7938

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                                    hmm.....I dont see 50 linkbacks.
                                                    I see only 4.
                                                    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...anbukkake.com/

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                                                    • Dracula
                                                      Registered User
                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                      • 62

                                                      #27
                                                      My dear friends, wtf, the guy has pr4, it is a obviously a bukkake site, he has bukkake in the title and also some relevant text in the page. For me looks more than normal.

                                                      Meta tags? Feel free to put tons of metatags, google ignores them 99.5%... put an extremely stupid bogus keyword in your meta tag and you will get some hits for that keyword. This is the case when google uses metatags, when no other page is relevant for a very very specific keyword.

                                                      I remeber one site (page) which had 2 months #1 position for a keyword and this keyword was found in the alt tag of the one and only image on that page. But the page had pr5...

                                                      In the other had, I have now a page with pr4 which is getting 2 hits a day from google, because is not optimized.
                                                      So is very simple, find a natural balance between PR and page optimisation (keywords) and you'll make real money
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                                                      • ghetto
                                                        Registered User
                                                        • Mar 2003
                                                        • 3

                                                        #28
                                                        <rant>

                                                        yeah....OBVIOUSLY google doesn't read meta tags....

                                                        like whatever....have you noticed from the latest update that the description meta is being used as your description in google?

                                                        now tell me that it doesnt read meta you dumb shitz...

                                                        btw, he has 50 backlinks including the pages on his own site...

                                                        </rant>
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                                                        • ghetto
                                                          Registered User
                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                          • 3

                                                          #29
                                                          sorry I didnt mean to "lose my cool"..

                                                          forgive me...
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                                                          • jojojo
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Mar 2002
                                                            • 2318

                                                            #30
                                                            find a natural balance between PR and page optimisation (keywords) and you'll make real money
                                                            Actually, it's not about balance at all.

                                                            It is about optmizing/maximizing each aspect of how google ranks it's pages. There are 6-7 different things it takes into account. Whoever has the highest overall total comes up first.
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                                                            • foreverjason
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                              • 1452

                                                              #31
                                                              Well, I'm no google expert, but he has bukkake in his domain name. I'm sure that helps a lot.
                                                              This helps alot, I have a few terms I am rated very high on just because my name has it in it.

                                                              Also check who is linking him and what text they are using for the link.

                                                              Everything Matters

                                                              Remember that with google.

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                                                              • xxxjay
                                                                Tube groupie.
                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                • 13482

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by jojojo
                                                                Jay - hit me up on ICQ bro
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                                                                • Scootermuze
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                  • 4513

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jojojo


                                                                  Google does not read meta tags.
                                                                  Ohh but it does..

                                                                  I'm #4 on Google with one of my sites and the description was pulled from my description meta tag..

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