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  • Nineteen85
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2008
    • 288

    #1

    CSS or HTML??

    From a customers point of view?

    99% of designers i know prefer CSS, but what about the client?

    Would it make the slightest difference to them if their site was coded in CSS or in HTML with tables, etc.
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  • MetaMan
    I AM WEB 2.0
    • Jan 2003
    • 28682

    #2
    i find it the other way around 99% of clients want CSS 1% of designers can do it properly.

    i dont see why surfers would care about the different kind of code, they just want content at high speed of a site. and imo CSS is more compressed code thus it loads your content faster.

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    • mona
      Registered User
      • Feb 2008
      • 1940

      #3
      CSS is beneficial with regards to SEO, so the client may care about that. However, from a design perspective, I wouldn't think so...CSS = Less work and mess ups for the designers (dos centavos).

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      • StuartD
        Sofa King Band
        • Jul 2002
        • 29903

        #4
        Uhmm.... CSS is an extension of HTML, not a replacement.
        If you are trying to replace one with the other, you don't know it as well as you think you do.
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        • alexchechs
          Confirmed User
          • May 2008
          • 3474

          #5
          CSS is great for both people. But I agree... not many people know how to code it very clean......
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          • hornycult
            Registered User
            • Oct 2008
            • 18

            #6
            I'm for 50/50 , actually its depends on what type of site you are working on

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            • Vixenator
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2008
              • 158

              #7
              There is no "CSS or HTML", there is HTML with or without CSS since CSS isn't a replacement, it's merely an supplement to HTML.

              Maybe it would help your understanding of these things if you started by researching what these letter combination actually stand for?
              Watch this space...

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              • Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                • Jan 2004
                • 16502

                #8
                CSS is HTML....

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                • HorseShit
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 17513

                  #9
                  Originally posted by StuartD
                  Uhmm.... CSS is an extension of HTML, not a replacement.
                  If you are trying to replace one with the other, you don't know it as well as you think you do.

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                  • ungratefulninja
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 682

                    #10
                    I can only hope they meant tables vs CSS.

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                    • tranza
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                      • Jun 2003
                      • 57559

                      #11
                      Flash. :D
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                      • skrinkladoo
                        Confirmed User
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 629

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MetaMan
                        i find it the other way around 99% of clients want CSS 1% of designers can do it properly.

                        i dont see why surfers would care about the different kind of code, they just want content at high speed of a site. and imo CSS is more compressed code thus it loads your content faster.
                        - exactly! I find a healthy mix of the 2 can be solid. Fact is most designers can't really do either. Sad but true.
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                        • mrwilson
                          mrwilson 2.0
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 5122

                          #13
                          tabless xhtml/css is all i work with.
                          I refuse to do tables.

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                          • mona
                            Registered User
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1940

                            #14
                            Also, there is no "one" way to use CSS with HTML...You can also use the CSS codes in the html page header, a .css file and link to it in the HTML page header (i know, basic explanation), you can use CSS and tables...It's like everyone's saying, it's not really an either or...

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                            • skrinkladoo
                              Confirmed User
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 629

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Vixenator
                              There is no "CSS or HTML", there is HTML with or without CSS since CSS isn't a replacement, it's merely an supplement to HTML.

                              Maybe it would help your understanding of these things if you started by researching what these letter combination actually stand for?
                              - Historically semi correct. However fast forward to 2008/2009 (today) - its seen by masses to be seperate. Truth: Whatever makes the resume look best ...

                              CSS - Think Styles
                              HTML - Think Layout

                              CSS advanced HTML, and in XHML (the reason i say "semi") the point is more valid.

                              Regardless of what makes or doesnt make the resume look different, and against the grain of this post - they are different, they are not the same. HTML is not CSS or vice versa - Styles versus Layout.

                              But no need to argue because they are both low-end ... front-end, dont they teach this stuff in elementary?
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                              • skrinkladoo
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 629

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Retox Josh
                                CSS is HTML....
                                I love the sig, but this quote isnt nearly as intelligent as the brain power it took to put this killer sig up.
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                                • scouser
                                  marketer.
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 2280

                                  #17
                                  by html i take it you mean a layout coded with things like tables, inline styles, <font family... etc type coding. and if so -- using external css files, and no stylying in the html has MANY advantages. (9 times out of 10 - displays better on devices like mobiles etc, smaller file sizes (less b/w, faster load times), slightly better for seo, a lot easier to maintain)

                                  i know some people spend a few hundred extra bucks to get a faster server, but still have like 200-300kb of wasted space in their html of each page. a lot of designers just slice things up in photoshop, so when a 1px wide( or high ) background image could be tiled, they end up using a 300px wide (or high) image. Then another identical (but different file) for the same bit a bit below it etc etc.....

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                                  • scouser
                                    marketer.
                                    • Aug 2006
                                    • 2280

                                    #18
                                    Also, try doing a site JUST with css. lol.

                                    (as others pointed out, its not a case of exclusively css or html. they compliment each other. although of course css isn't required.

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                                    • Deej
                                      I make pixels work
                                      • Jun 2005
                                      • 24386

                                      #19
                                      Css ftw imo rofl

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                                      • Basic_man
                                        Programming King Pin
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 27360

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Vixenator
                                        There is no "CSS or HTML", there is HTML with or without CSS since CSS isn't a replacement, it's merely an supplement to HTML.

                                        Maybe it would help your understanding of these things if you started by researching what these letter combination actually stand for?
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                                        • sysk
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                                          • Aug 2007
                                          • 1005

                                          #21
                                          CSS = graceful degradation, better accessibility, better SEO, better maintainability, better portability, better semantics, better W3C standards compliance

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                                          • Ninja_Pete
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                                            • Mar 2007
                                            • 585

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by StuartD
                                            Uhmm.... CSS is an extension of HTML, not a replacement.
                                            If you are trying to replace one with the other, you don't know it as well as you think you do.
                                            LOL. I was thinking the same thing.
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                                            • thinkhype
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                                              • Dec 2006
                                              • 519

                                              #23
                                              what he said.

                                              Better off to go fully CSS than with Tables.

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                                              • dailyduke
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 286

                                                #24
                                                tableless is the way to go.
                                                How did you not know CSS was a way of styling the code?
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                                                • calmlikeabomb
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                                                  • May 2004
                                                  • 1323

                                                  #25
                                                  lol @ html is css.
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