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  • DeanCapture
    Haters & Trolls SUCK!
    • Dec 2002
    • 9275

    #1

    Educating Webmasters....

    I had an interesting phone call yesterday from a Webmaster who wanted to hire me to shoot a model for him. He asked how many pic sets and how many vids I could shoot in a day and how much it would cost. I told him we typically shoot 6 units per day and it would cost him $blablabla. That could be 3 sets of pics and 3 vids, or 6 pic sets or 6 vids or any combination of 6 units. He laughed a little and said....."just so I'm clear, you shoot all day and shoot only 6 units"? I said yes. He laughed some more and said...."I can shoot that in 2 hours"! Then I said, well perhaps you haven't seen the quality that we produce. He said yes I've seen your work but I don't need that kind of quality. So I replied that perhaps another photographer would be better suited for your needs.

    One of the things I've found over the years of shooting content is that I spend a lot of my time educating webmasters about content production. It might surprise you that some of the largest and most successful sites are run by people who have never been to a photo shoot or a video shoot and have absolutely no idea what it entails and how much time, effort and stress it takes to produce content. I think if more "content buyers" would take the time to see how content was produced, they'd have a little more respect for producers. If your a content buyer, you should take to your producers and ask them if you could join them on the set one day. You might be in for an eye opening experience
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  • Kristian
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 3733

    #2
    Good post.

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    • IllTestYourGirls
      Ah My Balls
      • Feb 2007
      • 14311

      #3
      That is pretty much true about any profession. Most people think they could do a better job, faster job but end up getting what they paid for. I hear that kinda shit all the time when managing my construction company. I end up going step by step with the people because what they think is easy usually isn't.

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      • Eric
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2000
        • 8818

        #4
        This is a prime example of "You get what you pay for."

        Many people do not understand the concept.
        No One

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        • OMG Jim
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2005
          • 3153

          #5
          Excellent post Dean

          One only has to look at your work and stature within the industry to realize that great quality garners top price when it comes to content.

          Too many webmasters have "Champagne Tastes with Beer Budgets"

          Please never compromise your standards Dean for the sake of the Almighty $$$.
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          • mona
            Registered User
            • Feb 2008
            • 1940

            #6
            Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
            That is pretty much true about any profession. Most people think they could do a better job, faster job but end up getting what they paid for. I hear that kinda shit all the time when managing my construction company. I end up going step by step with the people because what they think is easy usually isn't.
            Well said, and you too Dean.

            I always think it's kinda silly that NBA stars get paid millions, but when your electricity goes out or your plumbing gets backed up, you're pretty much "shit out of luck" () until those guys show up at your door.

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            • Sly
              Let's do some business!
              • Sep 2004
              • 31376

              #7
              This is true in many facets. When I was selling hosting I always joked that half of my job was educating people. I never really buy into the "that is so much money, they don't deserve that" mentality. A person deserves what they can get, if they have a lot of expenses and a lot of experience and a lot of knowledge... you can only expect the end-user price to be considerable.
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              • Sly
                Let's do some business!
                • Sep 2004
                • 31376

                #8
                Originally posted by mona_klixxx
                Well said, and you too Dean.

                I always think it's kinda silly that NBA stars get paid millions, but when your electricity goes out or your plumbing gets backed up, you're pretty much "shit out of luck" () until those guys show up at your door.
                I don't think it's silly at all that professional athletes make so much money. Most of them diet and execute extreme workout regimens every day for 30 plus years... that takes discipline and a lot of hard work. Most of us have a hard time getting up at a decent time in the morning. :-)

                If they bring in the fans, they get the money.
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                • Exotic Gold
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 528

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DeanCapture
                  I had an interesting phone call yesterday from a Webmaster who wanted to hire me to shoot a model for him. He asked how many pic sets and how many vids I could shoot in a day and how much it would cost. I told him we typically shoot 6 units per day and it would cost him $blablabla. That could be 3 sets of pics and 3 vids, or 6 pic sets or 6 vids or any combination of 6 units. He laughed a little and said....."just so I'm clear, you shoot all day and shoot only 6 units"? I said yes. He laughed some more and said...."I can shoot that in 2 hours"! Then I said, well perhaps you haven't seen the quality that we produce. He said yes I've seen your work but I don't need that kind of quality. So I replied that perhaps another photographer would be better suited for your needs.

                  One of the things I've found over the years of shooting content is that I spend a lot of my time educating webmasters about content production. It might surprise you that some of the largest and most successful sites are run by people who have never been to a photo shoot or a video shoot and have absolutely no idea what it entails and how much time, effort and stress it takes to produce content. I think if more "content buyers" would take the time to see how content was produced, they'd have a little more respect for producers. If your a content buyer, you should take to your producers and ask them if you could join them on the set one day. You might be in for an eye opening experience
                  To be honest, if you can bust out six sets of the quality of stuff you typically post here, that's pretty damn good.


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                  • Abyss_Vee
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 5208

                    #10
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                    • Bosco
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 623

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
                      OMG !!! ... is that really accurate ?
                      Last edited by Bosco; 12-10-2008, 10:58 AM.

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                      • IllTestYourGirls
                        Ah My Balls
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 14311

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
                        Hey ass hole I just lost work because of that. You should be banned

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                        • Bosco
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 623

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
                          crazy...

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                          • 2012
                            So Fucking What
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 17189

                            #14
                            Originally posted by DeanCapture
                            "I can shoot that in 2 hours"!
                            Then what the fuck does he need you for !
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                            • DeanCapture
                              Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 9275

                              #15
                              Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                              Hey ass hole I just lost work because of that. You should be banned
                              He's one of my haters - don't pay him any attention
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                              • JamesK
                                hi
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 16731

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
                                Fucking cunt
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                                • pornguy
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 62912

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                  I had an interesting phone call yesterday from a Webmaster who wanted to hire me to shoot a model for him. He asked how many pic sets and how many vids I could shoot in a day and how much it would cost. I told him we typically shoot 6 units per day and it would cost him $blablabla. That could be 3 sets of pics and 3 vids, or 6 pic sets or 6 vids or any combination of 6 units. He laughed a little and said....."just so I'm clear, you shoot all day and shoot only 6 units"? I said yes. He laughed some more and said...."I can shoot that in 2 hours"! Then I said, well perhaps you haven't seen the quality that we produce. He said yes I've seen your work but I don't need that kind of quality. So I replied that perhaps another photographer would be better suited for your needs.

                                  One of the things I've found over the years of shooting content is that I spend a lot of my time educating webmasters about content production. It might surprise you that some of the largest and most successful sites are run by people who have never been to a photo shoot or a video shoot and have absolutely no idea what it entails and how much time, effort and stress it takes to produce content. I think if more "content buyers" would take the time to see how content was produced, they'd have a little more respect for producers. If your a content buyer, you should take to your producers and ask them if you could join them on the set one day. You might be in for an eye opening experience


                                  Very true. I think what he may have been thinking is that in todays market there are a lot of NEW Shooters and that they will do the shoot for less. No, they may not be Dean Capture, but they may be the next one that builds a LOYAL following based on the fact that they were GOOD at and cheaper at a time when people are looking to save.
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                                  • Bosco
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Sep 2004
                                    • 623

                                    #18
                                    LOL i love that link !
                                    Last edited by Bosco; 12-10-2008, 11:07 AM.

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                                    • alexchechs
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • May 2008
                                      • 3474

                                      #19
                                      I hate when people think they can get quality content for cheap... Good for you Dean...
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                                      • tony299
                                        lurker
                                        • Aug 2002
                                        • 57021

                                        #20
                                        Dean I like your work but I cant see you charging $blablabla I can see $blabla but not $blablabla. lol Im in a good mood.

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                                        • Abyss_Vee
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 5208

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                          He's one of my haters - don't pay him any attention
                                          Don't flatter yourself chief

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                                          • DeanCapture
                                            Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                                            • Dec 2002
                                            • 9275

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
                                            Don't flatter yourself chief
                                            Eat a dick mother fucker. You took the time out of your precious day to post your idiotic shit in my thread -

                                            FUCK YOU CHIEF!
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                                            • Bosco
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Sep 2004
                                              • 623

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                              Eat a dick mother fucker. You took the time out of your precious day to post your idiotic shit in my thread -

                                              FUCK YOU CHIEF!
                                              lol...this is really funny !

                                              you guys should fight!

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                                              • Abyss_Vee
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Sep 2003
                                                • 5208

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                                Eat a dick mother fucker. You took the time out of your precious day to post your idiotic shit in my thread -

                                                FUCK YOU CHIEF!
                                                anytime for you pumpkin. now go crawl under your desk

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                                                • DeanCapture
                                                  Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                  • 9275

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
                                                  anytime for you pumpkin. now go crawl under your desk
                                                  Sure thing cowboy - I love my haters

                                                  If it weren't for low-life talentless pricks like you, this board would be boring as hell. Keep up the great work!
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                                                  • JFK
                                                    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                    • 67373

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                                    Eat a dick mother fucker. You took the time out of your precious day to post your idiotic shit in my thread -

                                                    FUCK YOU CHIEF!
                                                    Dean, I think you should emphasize this a little more, sort of blends in

                                                    FUCK YOU CHIEF!

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                                                    • DeanCapture
                                                      Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                      • 9275

                                                      #27
                                                      Sorry guys - I should have just ignored that asswipe! My bad! Carry on...........
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                                                      • boudoir
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2008
                                                        • 211

                                                        #28
                                                        Dean, thanks for this info. The first couple of webmasters who encouraged me to shoot content were all about quantity, not quality. Sorry, I can't put my name on crap.
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                                                        • NickB.
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                          • 8856

                                                          #29
                                                          Id probably wont be able to keep it in the pants LOL

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                                                          • Iron Fist
                                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                            • Dec 2006
                                                            • 23400

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Abyss_Vee
                                                            You are an idiot. Embedded without sound controls, now that's just greasy.
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                                                            • DeanCapture
                                                              Haters & Trolls SUCK!
                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 9275

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by sharphead
                                                              You are an idiot. Embedded without sound controls, now that's just greasy.
                                                              He is a fucking idiot - for sure. And look at the size of his fucking sig! That's two reasons to ban that idiot but guess what? He's probably a bro and nobody will ever say shit to him about it. So much for fucking rules.....
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                                                              • StaceyJo
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2008
                                                                • 8960

                                                                #32
                                                                You're exactly correct there, Dean.
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                                                                • tranza
                                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 57559

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Nice post
                                                                  I'm just a newbie.

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                                                                  • Zayne E.
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Apr 2002
                                                                    • 1383

                                                                    #34
                                                                    And yet, so many here think a website design is only worth $300...well those who think 1:10,000 or worse conversion ratios are "normal" in this "market climate" and "economy" do at least.

                                                                    Too few stop to think there are designers who actually know how to make a page flow...how to capture a surfer's attention in the nanosecond window of opportunity that a decision to stay & surf or bail is made...how to guide them through the page to the join page and make that join page compelling enough to take action.

                                                                    Great post, Dean. Your words ring true for ANY professional in this industry.

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                                                                    • ContentSHOOTER
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Dec 2005
                                                                      • 3770

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by DeanCapture
                                                                      Sorry guys - I should have just ignored that asswipe! My bad! Carry on...........
                                                                      Great post Dean, personally I think you should have slammed him much harder just my
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                                                                      • spacedog
                                                                        Yes that IS me. Bitch.
                                                                        • Nov 2001
                                                                        • 14149

                                                                        #36
                                                                        I'd LOVE to join you on a shoot with Carli Banks

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