websitebilling

[angelsofporn]

i see their ad at the top of this page...has anyone gotten any checks yet?

[eRock]

Nothing yet from those lying bastards!

[Rex]

Not a cent in a month or so

[eRock]

Originally posted by Rex
Not a cent in a month or so

Try 2 months!

[Fletch XXX]

Still no check.

[Ray@TastyDollars]

didley squat-fuck all-nada-nill-zilch-niente-nothing.

How about a fucking "official" statment from wsb?


Ray

[chupacabra]

How about a fucking "official" statment from wsb?

they haven't made one since the last round of lies... surprised to still see their banners up, i certainly wouldn't steer anyone towards them these days..!

[eRock]

Originally posted by Ray
How about a fucking "official" statment from wsb?


Ray

First they gotta get their stories straight...

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally posted by eRock

First they gotta get their stories straight...

True, ehehe. Ive heard like 4 untill now.

Ray

[gothweb]

I hate it when people take in money for my work, and then don't pay me for it.

[eRock]

Originally posted by gothweb
I hate it when people take in money for my work, and then don't pay me for it.

I hate that too.

[s0laris2]

Got my check 2 days ago. I am all paid up..

[Keev]

2 monthes going 3....

I have heard alot of shit about WSB, guys who are owed shit loads of cash and probably will never see it

[Kick Ass Chat]

All wsb owed money can basically be written of.......

Just my

[e-god]

Mike: "They are processing and sending out everyone's payments over the course
of this week. I'm REALLY sorry for the delay."


And i believe him.

[playa]

what program was ya pushing that used WSB?

[Loch]

I simply stopped dealing with them when it took them 2 months to pay for their advertisement, so i wouldent know.

[necoeds]

The Florida A.G. office called me a earlier today and said that they are investigating. I received an email from an investigator at the Hollywood, Florida Police station yesterday, all he wants to know is roxanne and mike's last names........ Does anybody know their last names?



Fuck you WSB if you're listening

[MichaelwithWSB]

We have been sending out checks all week. We aren't holding onto anybodies money. As sson as our new accounting systme was in place and the the funds started coming to us from the banks, we started sending the money out.

As for the attourney General. Nobody is investigating us.

If you want my info I'll be happy to give to you:


Michael Sperber
Senior Account Manager
Websitebilling.com
5555 Hollywood Blvd, Ste 201
Hollywood, FL 33021 U.S.A.

Office: +1 954 987 5677 x206
Toll Free: (877) 293 2245 x206
Fax: +1 954 987 5675
Mobile: +1 954 650 5789
www.websitebilling.com
[email protected]

Please feel free to call my cell phone anytime. We are not hiding from anybody, we are not keeping anybodies money. When you all start dealing with your own merchant accounts, you will probably get back in touch with me and apologize. INternational merchant banks make their own rules and change them all the time in mid-stream.

We do our best to put in a buffer to these things. In fact, when MCI-worldcom went under and nobody was getting paid for 900 billing, we still paid out. We ALWAYS do our best.

If you con't believe me, call my cell phone, It's always on, and I always either pick up, or call right back.

As to necoed.... Please call me and i'll tell you my home address, and give you a description so that the "AGs office" can come get me!

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Um, am i the only one who noticed Mikes post?

Mike I really really hope what you stated is true. I want my money so bad I some how believe you 100%, hehe.

You have mail.

Ray

[Fletch XXX]

Still no check here.

Just more 'its coming'

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally posted by MichaelwithWSB
As to necoed.... Please call me and i'll tell you my home address, and give you a description so that the "AGs office" can come get me!

P.s. That was a little rude Mike, you must understand why he is so pissed!

Ray

[MichaelwithWSB]

Hey Ray

Actually, I had hit the button for a smiley face :-) But it didn't come up. I wasn't trying to be rude, it was supposed to be sardonic humour. :-)

. I understand that he's upset, but I've never gone out to screw anybody in my life and I don't want to be accused of it now.

[CosmicKitten]

hope to see check in mailbox very soon

this is not cool at all

[Master_Yoba]

no wire transfers for us

All I have for now is just the yesterday?s email from Roxanne:

?I apologize for the delay. We are catching up with our backed up payment this week as we speak. Again I apologize for the delay. Thank you.?

To necoeds:
You know Mike last name. As for Roxanne it?s ?Ramos?

[justsexxx]

Originally posted by MichaelwithWSB

When you all start dealing with your own merchant accounts, you will probably get back in touch with me and apologize.

Well that's exactly why we use 3rd party billers....You sounds like, DUH do it yourself if you can do it better, butyou are paid for doing that!

It's like buying a car, and after one week, it doesn't start. I goto the garage, and they say, uhhh well we will look but you understand it's hard. A car is a complex vehicle, can take months....

Andre

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by MichaelwithWSB

When you all start dealing with your own merchant accounts, you will probably get back in touch with me and apologize.

We dont have to know fuck about merchant accounts, I didnt sign up with WSB for anything other than to push College Fuck Fest, which I have not been paid for.

You process for them, doesnt have much more to do with me other than both of you have gotten paid for signups from MY traffic, but you cant send checks to the person who sent you the traffic.

Lame excuses. You are the processor dont complain about what you have to go through, its what you are supposed to deal with and thats why you take a % of College Fuck Fest total income.

So fucking tired of excuses.

[funkmaster]

"We have been sending out checks all week. We aren't holding onto anybodies money. As sson as our new accounting systme was in place and the the funds started coming to us from the banks, we started sending the money out. "

... didn´t someone from your company say that all checks will get sent out friday last week, so how come you´ve been sending out this week too ??

... I could care less as I am not on your list, but this all looks kinda fishy to me ... all the best to the guys that still expect to get payed !!

[SpaceAce]

Man, I was just sitting here thinking "Maybe these guys are alright" until I hit this little gem.

Originally posted by MichaelwithWSB

When you all start dealing with your own merchant accounts, you will probably get back in touch with me and apologize.

What planet do you live on where anyone might owe YOU an apology after what's been going on. People going 2+ months without getting paid while being fed an endless stream of excuses about your merchant accounts and processors and you suppose they'll call you up to apologize when they realize how you're just a sweet guy and it's really not your fault?

What a steaming pile of horseshit.

No one signed up to deal with whatever idiots you have holding on to your money. Webmasters contracted with YOU to pay THEM. It's not our concern where your money comes from. If we generated sales under your system, you owe us money. My landlord doesn't give a fuck whether or not my WSB checks haven't cleared, yet. _I_ owe him the money, not you. Don't try to pass the blame back upstream, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't matter who fucked you in the background, you are not excused from paying the people you owe.

Go ahead and look through my posts. I'm not the type to flame people, especially if they are trying to make things right. You deserve to be called on this BS, though. There are some apologies due, but they sure as fuck aren't from the people out here who have been waiting for months to get what they are owed.

Edit: here's a little something to keep in mind: it was always "you'll get paid when we do." First off, that's just not how the world works. Go ahead and tell that to the bank that holds your mortgage. What crap. Second of all, this time they came out and said "OK, we got paid. Now we'll pay you." Next time it could just as easily be "Looks like they're not going to pay us at all so you're all fucked." Be careful about dealing with any company that has such an unstable backend.

SpaceAce

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by MichaelwithWSB
. I understand that he's upset, but I've never gone out to screw anybody in my life and I don't want to be accused of it now.

If you're going to continue to do processing for webmasters, then you better learn this right here, right now..... Webmasters will never be placated by promises. Until the check is in our hands, your word means shit.


Enough with the "it's in the mail" speeches.


Who am I? I sent some test traffic to one sponsor and am owed about $80. Not a lot, but I am prepared to push that sponsor a hell of a lot more.... but only if I am actually going to be paid. So, in other words, your company's screw-ups are costing your customers money. I strongly urge you to make sure everyone here is happy as pigs in shit, because if you don't you are going to find that your clients are pulling out in DROVES and going to other processors. I'm pretty sure you won't like it when that happens.

[CosmicKitten]

what a chump.... I'd love to have that attitude with people I owe money to. But it just doesn't work that way.

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally posted by SpaceAce
Man, I was just sitting here thinking "Maybe these guys are alright" until I hit this little gem.



What planet do you live on where anyone might owe YOU an apology after what's been going on. People going 2+ months without getting paid while being fed an endless stream of excuses about your merchant accounts and processors and you suppose they'll call you up to apologize when they realize how you're just a sweet guy and it's really not your fault?

What a steaming pile of horseshit.

No one signed up to deal with whatever idiots you have holding on to your money. Webmasters contracted with YOU to pay THEM. It's not our concern where your money comes from. If we generated sales under your system, you owe us money. My landlord doesn't give a fuck whether or not my WSB checks haven't cleared, yet. _I_ owe him the money, not you. Don't try to pass the blame back upstream, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't matter who fucked you in the background, you are not excused from paying the people you owe.

Go ahead and look through my posts. I'm not the type to flame people, especially if they are trying to make things right. You deserve to be called on this BS, though. There are some apologies due, but they sure as fuck aren't from the people out here who have been waiting for months to get what they are owed.

Edit: here's a little something to keep in mind: it was always "you'll get paid when we do." First off, that's just not how the world works. Go ahead and tell that to the bank that holds your mortgage. What crap. Second of all, this time they came out and said "OK, we got paid. Now we'll pay you." Next time it could just as easily be "Looks like they're not going to pay us at all so you're all fucked." Be careful about dealing with any company that has such an unstable backend.

SpaceAce

Well fucking said. I applaud you!!
Ray

[Centurion]

Originally posted by MichaelwithWSB
When you all start dealing with your own merchant accounts, you will probably get back in touch with me and apologize.

Michael,

If you are in charge of marketing/public relations, you should be removed immediately!
Your post was one of the worst I've ever seen by a cc biller on a public forum and it did your company more harm than good.
You need a thick skin to be in your line of business, not someone given to "I'm right, you're wrong, apologize for your posts"!

To say the least, that does NOT win over webmasters or even keep the current ones you have! Absolutely uncalled for attitude by you!

[Ray@TastyDollars]

You know what would be really ironic, if this board actually drives WSB and the beloved sponsor to go belly up. Talk about kicking ourselves in the nuts, lol.

Gotta laugh about it or you go nuts.

Ray

[Shoplifter]

So I take it no one has received a check again today?

[XxXotic]

Originally posted by Shoplifter
So I take it no one has received a check again today?

you'd be correct in assuming that

[necoeds]

LOL Mike.... you're fucking hilarious....... I just got off the phone with a Mr. Edwards from the better business buereau..


So now, I have initiated and have confirmed 3 of the 4 investigations into this fraud.

BTW, perhaps you need a refresh as to what FRAUD is....

Main Entry: fraud
Pronunciation: 'frod
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fraude, from Middle French, from Latin fraud-, fraus
Date: 14th century
1 a : DECEIT, TRICKERY; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting

*OR EVEN MORE ACCURATE:

Main Entry: wire fraud
Function: noun
Date: 1976
: fraud committed using a means of electronic communication (as a telephone)


You have already committed fraud, in fact you have done so twice to me on the phone. Roxanne has done it ALOT more than twice.

That's all for now..... I will take this as far as i need to. If you ACH me what you owe me, then i'll cancel all complaints.... otherwise.....

[TDF]

Originally posted by necoeds
LOL Mike.... you're fucking hilarious....... I just got off the phone with a Mr. Edwards from the better business buereau..


So now, I have initiated and have confirmed 3 of the 4 investigations into this fraud.

BTW, perhaps you need a refresh as to what FRAUD is....

Main Entry: fraud
Pronunciation: 'frod
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English fraude, from Middle French, from Latin fraud-, fraus
Date: 14th century
1 a : DECEIT, TRICKERY; specifically : intentional perversion of truth in order to induce another to part with something of value or to surrender a legal right b : an act of deceiving or misrepresenting

*OR EVEN MORE ACCURATE:

Main Entry: wire fraud
Function: noun
Date: 1976
: fraud committed using a means of electronic communication (as a telephone)


You have already committed fraud, in fact you have done so twice to me on the phone. Roxanne has done it ALOT more than twice.

That's all for now..... I will take this as far as i need to. If you ACH me what you owe me, then i'll cancel all complaints.... otherwise.....

speaking of fraud, did u ever refund PornJester his money for non delivery of content?

[eRock]

What a pompous ass this Mike is! Hey, Mike...you haven't paid anyone for 2 months!!!!! I'm behind w/ payments cuz of you guys & it's funny cuz they don't seem to give a shit about my problems w/ getting money in. If I don't pay I get penalized. Plus, we've all been told different stories by you guys why payments weren't sent out. You guys need to get your lies straight so you can at least tell us all the same lie! And to top it all off no one from WSB made any kinda statement, sent out an email explaining the problem or told us the truth. I've been hearing that you're cuttin' checks this week for the past 2-3 weeks. How the hell do we know if this is actually the week you're telling the truth about, smart ass!?
Short of Triple X Cash...WSB will NEVER see any business from me in the future. Good way to get your companies name out there...just don't pay anyone. Creative marketing.

[necoeds]

LOL.... pornjester was sent the content up front, he then paid 2 weeks later, then wanted a copy of the RAW images...... the raw images is what i was late on.......

[Centurion]

Originally posted by Ray
You know what would be really ironic, if this board actually drives WSB and the beloved sponsor to go belly up. Talk about kicking ourselves in the nuts, lol.

Gotta laugh about it or you go nuts.

Ray

Well, there's always the possiblity that websitebilling & pswbilling will merge. Now, that's a tanker full of oil looking for rocks to crash into!

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by Centurion
Well, there's always the possiblity that websitebilling & pswbilling will merge. Now, that's a tanker full of oil looking for rocks to crash into!

Okay no seriously.... stop it man, you are beginning to scare me.

[Master_Yoba]

The working day just has begun..

No money in the bank

[SR]

Nothing yet.
Carmen told me all checks would be mailed by friday so hopefuly we'll get our checks next week.
I'm still positive that they will pay.
Just takes kinda long.

[Master_Yoba]

I'm positive too but it's so nervously all around...

Where is the hell that Mike from WSB?
Where is necoeds with his fucking cops?

[CDSmith]

My mail doesn't come until late afternoon on my street. Damn donut-sucking mailman!


When a female letter-carrier took over for him during holidays my mail got here 2 hours earlier in the day.

[Master_Yoba]

All I have today from WSB is just follow:

"Message of the Day
Dear Valued Clients,

WebsiteBilling.co.uk is pleased to announce the arrival of the virtual DuoCash pre-paid calling card as a new payment method.
This calling card can be purchased online for phone calls at 10c per minute, but it can now also be used to purchase goods and services at many of our partner websites.
For more information on this please contact your sales representative.

WebsiteBilling.com

Clients should regularly login to the WebsiteBilling system for messages, advice and billing information and news. "

What's the fucking "virtual DuoCash pre-paid calling card "?


Where the message about our money???

[chupacabra]

What's the fucking "virtual DuoCash pre-paid calling card "?

wtf? there going to pay everyone in overpriced calling cards? anyone get a wire yet..? or a check, or a response..?

[Fletch XXX]

<font color="yellow"><b><h3>Mailman just came & went.

Still no check.

I am owed close to a grand.</font></b></h3>

[FATPad]

Originally posted by MichaelwithWSB
When you all start dealing with your own merchant accounts, you will probably get back in touch with me and apologize.

You have got to be kidding me. You did not just say that after 2 months of no checks.