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  • NinjaSteve
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Dec 2003
    • 11089

    #1

    How do I chck Class C on multiple IPs?

    How can I check to see if multiple IPs or domains are hosted on the same class C?
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  • Supz
    Arthur Flegenheimer
    • Jul 2006
    • 11057

    #2
    Xxx.xxx.xxx.*

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    • WiredGuy
      Pounding Googlebot
      • Aug 2002
      • 34512

      #3
      1) Do ip lookup on domain
      2) If ccc in the following is the same for all domains/ips: aaa.bbb.ccc.*
      Then you're on the same c-block.

      WG
      I play with Google.

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      • baddog
        So Fucking Banned
        • Apr 2001
        • 107089

        #4
        Originally posted by NinjaSteve
        How can I check to see if multiple IPs or domains are hosted on the same class C?
        I presume you mean how can you tell if other sites are hosted on a particular IP.

        You can be sure that over a C Class, there will be 255 IP's on it, and unless it is new, it would probably have a few domains on it.

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        • Pleasurepays
          BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
          • Aug 2002
          • 11913

          #5
          worst ninja ever

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          • beta-tester
            Rock 'n Roll Baby!
            • Sep 2004
            • 22562

            #6
            that is not class C.

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            • beta-tester
              Rock 'n Roll Baby!
              • Sep 2004
              • 22562

              #7
              I recommend reading:

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network
              and
              http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/Class_C_network.html

              To everyone who thinks aaa.bbb.CCC.ddd CCC is C class ip address

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              • d-null
                . . .
                • Apr 2007
                • 13724

                #8
                I interpreted his rather minimally worded question a little differently, and he is going to have to come back and let us know exactly what theheck he was trying to ask....

                but I think he is asking 'how can I run a bulk check on a bunch of domains to see if any of them share a common class c'

                not sure if he is looking for a step by step on how to run one of the many whois sites on the net to find out the ip that a domain is hosted on and write them down to compare them by hand or if he is looking for some kind of script to be written to do the check in bulk for him....

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                • baddog
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Apr 2001
                  • 107089

                  #9
                  Originally posted by beta-tester
                  To everyone who thinks aaa.bbb.CCC.ddd CCC is C class ip address
                  What is it then?

                  Originally posted by jetjet
                  but I think he is asking 'how can I run a bulk check on a bunch of domains to see if any of them share a common class c'
                  You definitely read between the lines and fill in the blanks.

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                  • d-null
                    . . .
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 13724

                    #10
                    Originally posted by baddog
                    What is it then?



                    You definitely read between the lines and fill in the blanks.


                    and on beta tester's correct comment, I think there is a bit of a different take on the concept of 'different class c' when talking seo than the strict class designations he is talking about

                    there is no official comment from google on it anyways, but it has grown from the belief that a site performs better in the serps if the links it shares are from domains on different ip's, and it has been said that even sequential ip's may not be seen as 'separated sites' by google's algorithms... so I think when most seo people talk about "different class c's", they just mean ip's that are not closely designated, ie. aaa.bbb.CCC.ddd, although that is obviously not the proper definition of 'class c' in which different class c's could be sequential

                    that is my take on it anyways, feel free to add to it or argue the issue
                    Last edited by d-null; 07-24-2008, 07:23 PM.

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                    • Wang Dong

                      #11
                      so if on cheap shared host, is it possible that my ip (not just c class, the whole) is shared by many many other sites? and if so, how does that influence SEO?

                      Originally posted by baddog
                      What is it then?



                      You definitely read between the lines and fill in the blanks.

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                      • baddog
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 107089

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wang Dong
                        so if on cheap shared host, is it possible that my ip (not just c class, the whole) is shared by many many other sites? and if so, how does that influence SEO?
                        You can be relatively confident that if you are paying $4.95 a month you have a shared IP.

                        As far as the value of a dedicated IP is concerned, Bruce Clay (very respected SEO guru) observed that although only 3 percent of websites are on dedicated IPs, well over 90 percent of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. They confirmed this by moving a site from a shared IP to a dedicated IP and noticed ?significant ranking increases.?

                        Additionally, if you share an IP with an unseemly website owner you run the risk of having the entire IP banned, instantly losing your search credibility. And some hosts will put upwards of 9,000 different domains on one IP.

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                        • Wang Dong

                          #13
                          it is a good answer

                          Originally posted by baddog
                          You can be relatively confident that if you are paying $4.95 a month you have a shared IP.

                          As far as the value of a dedicated IP is concerned, Bruce Clay (very respected SEO guru) observed that although only 3 percent of websites are on dedicated IPs, well over 90 percent of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. They confirmed this by moving a site from a shared IP to a dedicated IP and noticed ?significant ranking increases.?

                          Additionally, if you share an IP with an unseemly website owner you run the risk of having the entire IP banned, instantly losing your search credibility. And some hosts will put upwards of 9,000 different domains on one IP.

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                          • moeloubani
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 4235

                            #14
                            Originally posted by baddog
                            You can be relatively confident that if you are paying $4.95 a month you have a shared IP.

                            As far as the value of a dedicated IP is concerned, Bruce Clay (very respected SEO guru) observed that although only 3 percent of websites are on dedicated IPs, well over 90 percent of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. They confirmed this by moving a site from a shared IP to a dedicated IP and noticed ?significant ranking increases.?

                            Additionally, if you share an IP with an unseemly website owner you run the risk of having the entire IP banned, instantly losing your search credibility. And some hosts will put upwards of 9,000 different domains on one IP.
                            As a scientific type of guy I can always appreciate the results of an experiment like that

                            Thanks for the info!

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                            • Zoose
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 268

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              You can be relatively confident that if you are paying $4.95 a month you have a shared IP.

                              As far as the value of a dedicated IP is concerned, Bruce Clay (very respected SEO guru) observed that although only 3 percent of websites are on dedicated IPs, well over 90 percent of the top-50 results in the search engines are sites having dedicated IP numbers. They confirmed this by moving a site from a shared IP to a dedicated IP and noticed ?significant ranking increases.?

                              Additionally, if you share an IP with an unseemly website owner you run the risk of having the entire IP banned, instantly losing your search credibility. And some hosts will put upwards of 9,000 different domains on one IP.
                              I remember reading that article YEARS ago.. I wonder if it still holds true. I know penisbot.com and wetplace.com are both on the same IP, transparently interlinked, and both do extremely well in the search engines. Obviously there's a ton of other factors that influence serps..

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                              • NinjaSteve
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 11089

                                #16
                                Sorry for the confusion, my post wasn't the greatest and I was in a bit of a rush and I was just looking at domains and IPs for a while so I said IP instead of domain in my title.

                                I was curious if there's a way to check many domains at one time (bulk checker) to determine if multiple domains are on the same or different Class C IPs.
                                ...

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                                • baddog
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 107089

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Zoose
                                  I remember reading that article YEARS ago.. I wonder if it still holds true.
                                  Well, I remember how his eyes lit up when I told him we did not share IP's.

                                  Also, there was a recent blog entry made on his site where the author cited that quote, so I am guessing it still helps.

                                  But yes, there may be another factor or two that figures into the equation.

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                                  • nico-t
                                    emperor of my world
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 29903

                                    #18
                                    http://www.webrankinfo.com/english/t...-c-checker.php

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                                    • baddog
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 107089

                                      #19
                                      Good link. Forgot about it.

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                                      • rowan
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Mar 2002
                                        • 17393

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by beta-tester
                                        I recommend reading:

                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classful_network
                                        and
                                        http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/Class_C_network.html

                                        To everyone who thinks aaa.bbb.CCC.ddd CCC is C class ip address
                                        Technically referring to each "block of 256 IPs" as a class C isn't correct, but these days it seems to be pretty much accepted as convention in SEO...

                                        BTW baddog, in theory you could have the full 256 IPs per xxx.xxx.xxx.* block; with classless allocations you can use .0 and .255 as normal IPs.

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