Best CMS?

[vittle]

any good CMS out there?

I like the new member area CMS for the nastydollar sites and the fuckyoucash sites.

Looking for something similar.

[PornDiscounts-R]

hmm, I dont know it, but i would think ND could very well be custom.

[Useless Warrior]

I'd like one that generates static HTML pages and has a scheduling feature for content release/rotation. Of course, I also want that for under $50.

[GrouchyAdmin]

I'd like one that generates static HTML pages and has a scheduling feature for content release/rotation. Of course, I also want that for under $50.

That would be MAS. Multiply the $50 by a hundred, and it's yours.

[Itchy]

I love my copies of MAS
http://www.mansionproductions.com/mas/

[Jake]

You can't go wrong with MAS. It's an incredibly versatile CMS that can do just about anything you can dream up. More importantly the guys at Mansion offer support that is second to none!

[Gerco]

MAS works and does so solidly, I have had it running my site for 4 years now. Still don't know how to really do anything with it, so I have to have the guys over at mansion do any changes etc. For someone that doesn't know anything but really basic html and what I hack my way though with dreamweaver it's way over my head, but a solid CMS.

I do wish it supported h.264 video and had a built in player, as I would like to move all my video to it, but other than that I would ahve to give it the nod.

[GrouchyAdmin]

I do wish it supported h.264 video and had a built in player, as I would like to move all my video to it, but other than that I would ahve to give it the nod.

I wish my microwave played DVDs, but that's not it's job.

JW FLV can do it, and I'm sure that Ross is more than capable of getting you setup to do so; for a hybrid solution we've been working on; he's got it displaying flash, or wmv, depending on context. All you need to do is start encoding both ways, and pay for some development time.

[Gerco]

I wish my microwave played DVDs, but that's not it's job.

JW FLV can do it, and I'm sure that Ross is more than capable of getting you setup to do so; for a hybrid solution we've been working on; he's got it displaying flash, or wmv, depending on context. All you need to do is start encoding both ways, and pay for some development time.

I'm sure that it can be done, I'm also sure that Ross can do it, I have already talked to them about developing it, in fact I have had stuff custom developed buy them in the past that became standard features in later releases. I just said, I WISH it was a working and INCLUDED feature now... so I DON'T have to have something created from scratch.

[GrouchyAdmin]

I just said, I WISH it was a working and INCLUDED feature now... so I DON'T have to have something created from scratch.

As I noted, I've already had the basis done for both flash, and other formats playable; I'm sure this is a common request. It's already done; it just needs to be adapted for your use.

I'd also like to have an embeddable player that worked for every format under the sun; hell, I'd buy it.

[FelixFlow]

have you looked at www.sitedepth.com ??

[Gerco]

As I noted, I've already had the basis done for both flash, and other formats playable; I'm sure this is a common request. It's already done; it just needs to be adapted for your use.

I'd also like to have an embeddable player that worked for every format under the sun; hell, I'd buy it.

I agree, but that's also not what I said or what I'm looking for. in my case I want to simply encode all my existing content to h.264 and only offer h.264 in my members area. So I'm not looking for something that can play all formats, just this one. Currently I only offer the WMV format. I wouldn't think this would be that big of an issue. I have over 400 hours of video in my members area and I just thing going to h.264 would be a good move.

[GrouchyAdmin]

I agree, but that's also not what I said or what I'm looking for. in my case I want to simply encode all my existing content to h.264 and only offer h.264 in my members area. So I'm not looking for something that can play all formats, just this one. Currently I only offer the WMV format. I wouldn't think this would be that big of an issue. I have over 400 hours of video in my members area and I just thing going to h.264 would be a good move.

Well, what you want then is to pay for someone to re-encode all of your content, and just have the flash player installed into your MAS.

Since MAS can support multiple templates for movies based upon the file type (which I required), you can do it in stages, so you won't have any downtime; some movies will use the (new) embedded flash player, some will continue to embed the WMV, which was the reason for my suggestion.

[Gerco]

Well, what you want then is to pay for someone to re-encode all of your content, and just have the flash player installed into your MAS.

Since MAS can support multiple templates for movies based upon the file type (which I required), you can do it in stages, so you won't have any downtime; some movies will use the (new) embedded flash player, some will continue to embed the WMV, which was the reason for my suggestion.

I'll have to ask them again about it. As far as re-encoding the content... I have 3 Macs that can sit and batch encode using a program called Episode so not really an issue, fact my plan is to re-encode from DV anyways and actually do a little editing as I go this time...

[brandonstills]

I doubt you will find anything for $50. ElevatedX is another one that I've heard generates static files but it's definitely not $50.

[vittle]

ElevatedX is the other one I've heard good things about. Just couln't remeber the name. I emailed them a week ago for a demo but no response.

[Jace]

if you can't afford more than $50 for a cms to run a paysite, don't open a paysite or go back to work at mcdonalds

anything worth a shit is AT LEAST $600 up front, and can run anywhere from $100-250 monthly

[NN_Matt]

mas is a great product.

[$tandaman]

You can check out www.ThePaysiteCMS.com

We can create those kind of member functionality that you are talking about, as a matter of fact we are in the process of creating 'reality site skin'.

Contact me for details and our new licensing options.

[Shoehorn!]

I wish my microwave played DVDs, but that's not it's job.

[Andre]

www.elevatedx.com

[AJHall]

ElevatedX is the other one I've heard good things about. Just couln't remeber the name. I emailed them a week ago for a demo but no response.

I respond to all the demo requests personally, usually within 24 hours so it's likely that either your request or my reply got caught by a spam filter.

We can do everything you're looking to do and more.

If you still want to see the system please contact me directly via ICQ or call me at 1-800-690-9277

[Useless Warrior]

if you can't afford more than $50 for a cms to run a paysite, don't open a paysite or go back to work at mcdonalds

Limited sense of humor? Did you people honestly think that I was looking for a top of the line CMS for $50? Cranky, insulting douche bags.

[Jace]

Limited sense of humor? Did you people honestly think that I was looking for a top of the line CMS for $50? Cranky, insulting douche bags.

rofl, well, man, we are on gfy, where everyone want a $19 content package with 20,00 videos in it, so a request such as yours isn't that unbelievable

same way people constantly come on here asking how to create a paysite cms from joomla

[Miguel]

check out awiz paysite manager
they have cheap and funñtionable one

[en21]

checkout www.joomla.org .. the biggest CMS in the world.. I have been using it.. very good and reliable

[Jace]

check out awiz paysite manager
they have cheap and funñtionable one

DO NOT USE AWIZ

unless you like broken english manuals that barely tell you anything and broken english support that is snobby with you and point you to the manual like you didn't try and read it

in all honesty, I want my month back after trying to make it work right....hell, I actually think it is an amazing cms, I just never got far enough into creating my members area with it to ever know

they REALLY need to get some native english speaking support reps, and a kickass native english speaker to write a comprehensive manual for it

[Fap]

bump, im looking for some good ones too

[RP Fade]

www.elevatedx.com

Ive seen the demo and it looks awesome

[Fizzgig]

I'd like one that generates static HTML pages and has a scheduling feature for content release/rotation. Of course, I also want that for under $50.

Being cheap will cost you in the long run.

[vittle]

I respond to all the demo requests personally, usually within 24 hours so it's likely that either your request or my reply got caught by a spam filter.

We can do everything you're looking to do and more.

If you still want to see the system please contact me directly via ICQ or call me at 1-800-690-9277

Thanks AJ! Must be lost in spam world. I'll hit you up on icq. Looking forward to checking it out!

[MassiveDollars - DonPaul]

MAS rocks, simple as that :D

[james_clickmemedia]

www.elevatedx.com is the best I have seen. Great product and support.

[Snake Doctor]

www.elevatedx.com

I respond to all the demo requests personally, usually within 24 hours so it's likely that either your request or my reply got caught by a spam filter.

We can do everything you're looking to do and more.

If you still want to see the system please contact me directly via ICQ or call me at 1-800-690-9277

www.elevatedx.com is the best I have seen. Great product and support.

I agree that elevated x is a great product with great service.

I have nothing negative to say about it, and that's very unusual for me, perfectionist that I am.

[Fizzgig]

That sounds like a solid recommendation!

[Fap]

elevated x is also $4k.. expensive for a CMS

[AJHall]

elevated x is also $4k.. expensive for a CMS

Considering the features and functionality of the system it's priced competitively.

We do also offer a lease option for a $500 setup fee and $150/month.

I have yet to have a client buy the cms or switch to our cms from another system and tell me they didn't think they were getting their money's worth.

4 or 5 of our users have posted in this thread already and nobody has complained about the value for the money...

[Fap]

Considering the features and functionality of the system it's priced competitively.

We do also offer a lease option for a $500 setup fee and $150/month.

I have yet to have a client buy the cms or switch to our cms from another system and tell me they didn't think they were getting their money's worth.

4 or 5 of our users have posted in this thread already and nobody has complained about the value for the money...

Well if you can afford it it's great

[Snake Doctor]

elevated x is also $4k.. expensive for a CMS

That's about the same price as MAS or CARMA, which is their competition.

You can't really compare the price to the cheaper CMS's, it's like saying the Mercedes is too expensive at 50K because you can buy a Ford Focus for 10K.

I've tried a few of the cheaper CMS's out there and let me tell you, you get what you pay for. I'm still working on a program that I could have launched 6 months ago if I had ponied up the dough for elevatedx from day one.

[DWB]

checkout www.joomla.org .. the biggest CMS in the world.. I have been using it.. very good and reliable

i hate joomla. nothing but quirky little bugs when i have used it.

[Abyss_Vee]

Elevatedx Gets my vote. Its a very powerful system and very easy to use

[Violetta]

sitedepth worked very well for me!

[lisa sparks]

I am also on the ElevatedX bandwagon. They always take care of me if I need them. Their support is awesome!!

[Robbie]

I have a question...I don't use CMS but the other sites in our cash program do. What are the security issues involved with a CMS built website? Backdoors? Exploits?
I'm particularly interested in AWIZ, MAS, and ElevatedX as far as security issues are concerned.

[AJHall]

I have a question...I don't use CMS but the other sites in our cash program do. What are the security issues involved with a CMS built website? Backdoors? Exploits?
I'm particularly interested in AWIZ, MAS, and ElevatedX as far as security issues are concerned.

Here's the response I was given from the technical end:

With software, security is not something that you either have or don't have in your product. Security is a process. It comes from analyzing all possible and present attack vectors and minimizing or eliminating those risks.

Here are some of the ways that ElevatedX minimizes those risks.

Members Area:
-------------

Input Validation: All input to our system (things like ?id=1 and posted values) are always validated. If we're expecting id to be a number, strictly convert id into a number.

SQL Escaping: If we're expecting a value that's not a number, ALWAYS make sure the data is escaped properly. For a semi-humorous idea of what happens when you don't escape your inputs, check out this comic:
http://xkcd.com/327/


Included code: We don't include code from external URLs. Our CMS is self contained, and NEVER runs code based on outside user input.

Containment: 99% of the functionality of our CMS is contained within functions or classes

Admin Area:
-----------

Authentication: Our admin area requires a username and password to get into the system. If there are too many failed attempts at logging in for a specific user, our login page prompts for a captcha in addition to a login / password. This is exactly the way gmail works for logging in.

Permissions: Our admin area does strict checking to see if your user has permission to perform specific actions (delete sets, whatnot). While this is more of a feature than a security process, we always make sure that if you're going to do something like delete a set, you're logged in a user that allows you to do that.

Exploits and Backdoors:
-----------------------

Our software has no backdoors. We have absolutely no benefit putting them into our system. We're trying to gain new customers, not alienate them!

We currently have not run into any exploits for our software since our CMS has been released, and we're proud of this record. However, in the event that an exploit is discovered, we will address the issue immediately and upgrade all of our customers.

By choosing us, we feel you're making a safe bet.

[Martin]

ElevatedX looks solid.

[Ross the Boss]

I would like to thank everyone for the good words about MAS. We have always been trying to stay on top of the growing needs of our customers and bringing them a powerful, solid and easy-to-work-with system, which could be adapted to work with many different types of site layouts.

vittle and Useless Warrior - I believe MAS can do everything that you were after. Feel free to have a look around http://www.mansionproductions.com/mas/ and contact us with any specific question or feature that you are interested in but do not find the answer.

Gerco - MAS works with virtually any kind of [video] content. It is just a matter of a player to embed in the video page template. Like GrouchyAdmin correctly said, if you have troubles setting it all by yourselves, we can provide you with the basic code to display a different player based on the format (i.e. WMP for wmv and avi, QuickTime for mov and mpg, Real, FLV etc.). JW FLV seems to be one of the best and affordable players out there, and it does support H.264 if member has Adobe Flash 9.0.98 or later. We can help you set it up in your members areas if you like that, you just have to take care of the player's licensing fee (20 EUR). Or you can choose another one, not a problem.

AJHall - that's was a very good and thoroughful explanation on the security features!
Like you say, "Security is a process". I just wish to add that this process involves many parties - not just the software vendors, but also the hosting company and the webmaster (owner), and it should be taken seriously by all.
Not a big use of a bullet-proof CMS if there are other weak scripts on the same server, or if passwords are not being stored and kept respectfully.

In this regard, we always recommend our MAS customers to make use of the "Limit admin account by list of static IP addresses" feature, to be on the safe side.

[Robbie]

Here's the response I was given from the technical end:

With software, security is not something that you either have or don't have in your product. Security is a process. It comes from analyzing all possible and present attack vectors and minimizing or eliminating those risks.

Here are some of the ways that ElevatedX minimizes those risks.

Members Area:
-------------

Input Validation: All input to our system (things like ?id=1 and posted values) are always validated. If we're expecting id to be a number, strictly convert id into a number.

SQL Escaping: If we're expecting a value that's not a number, ALWAYS make sure the data is escaped properly. For a semi-humorous idea of what happens when you don't escape your inputs, check out this comic:
http://xkcd.com/327/


Included code: We don't include code from external URLs. Our CMS is self contained, and NEVER runs code based on outside user input.

Containment: 99% of the functionality of our CMS is contained within functions or classes

Admin Area:
-----------

Authentication: Our admin area requires a username and password to get into the system. If there are too many failed attempts at logging in for a specific user, our login page prompts for a captcha in addition to a login / password. This is exactly the way gmail works for logging in.

Permissions: Our admin area does strict checking to see if your user has permission to perform specific actions (delete sets, whatnot). While this is more of a feature than a security process, we always make sure that if you're going to do something like delete a set, you're logged in a user that allows you to do that.

Exploits and Backdoors:
-----------------------

Our software has no backdoors. We have absolutely no benefit putting them into our system. We're trying to gain new customers, not alienate them!

We currently have not run into any exploits for our software since our CMS has been released, and we're proud of this record. However, in the event that an exploit is discovered, we will address the issue immediately and upgrade all of our customers.

By choosing us, we feel you're making a safe bet.

Thank you sir.

[AJHall]

Thank you sir.

You're welcome

Ross mentioned something I should have added to my reply - The Elevated X system also has the option for IP restriction for admin users built in.

[Gerco]

I would like to thank everyone for the good words about MAS. We have always been trying to stay on top of the growing needs of our customers and bringing them a powerful, solid and easy-to-work-with system, which could be adapted to work with many different types of site layouts.

vittle and Useless Warrior - I believe MAS can do everything that you were after. Feel free to have a look around http://www.mansionproductions.com/mas/ and contact us with any specific question or feature that you are interested in but do not find the answer.

Gerco - MAS works with virtually any kind of [video] content. It is just a matter of a player to embed in the video page template. Like GrouchyAdmin correctly said, if you have troubles setting it all by yourselves, we can provide you with the basic code to display a different player based on the format (i.e. WMP for wmv and avi, QuickTime for mov and mpg, Real, FLV etc.). JW FLV seems to be one of the best and affordable players out there, and it does support H.264 if member has Adobe Flash 9.0.98 or later. We can help you set it up in your members areas if you like that, you just have to take care of the player's licensing fee (20 EUR). Or you can choose another one, not a problem.

AJHall - that's was a very good and thoroughful explanation on the security features!
Like you say, "Security is a process". I just wish to add that this process involves many parties - not just the software vendors, but also the hosting company and the webmaster (owner), and it should be taken seriously by all.
Not a big use of a bullet-proof CMS if there are other weak scripts on the same server, or if passwords are not being stored and kept respectfully.

In this regard, we always recommend our MAS customers to make use of the "Limit admin account by list of static IP addresses" feature, to be on the safe side.

Thanks for the reply here Ross, as to the player... I want to find a solution that does not use flash... I don't want flash anywhere on the site. So, if a member wanted to say, surf my site with his Iphone, he could. With the new 3g Iphone expected out in about 60 days, this will even be a better time to start the conversion. You know that I'm totally inept when it comes to this web stuff... How my site has generated as much $$ is beyond me, hell, I need you in order to even change links or anything for that matter when it comes to MAS. Is there any solution to server the video to the members in H.264 format, like You Tube does? So when a member clicks the video, it just opens in quicktime, or whatever h.264 player they happen to have?