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  • Babaganoosh
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    • Nov 2001
    • 15841

    #1

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    When did it become ok to sell a script but still stick a "powered by" link at the bottom of all of the public pages? If you don't want to show that link, then you can pay an additional fee for an "unbranded" license. If you released a free script, by all means add a powered by link. When I pay for a script, I certainly am not paying for the right to advertise and build backlinks for you as well.
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  • After Shock Media
    It's coming look busy
    • Mar 2001
    • 35299

    #2
    Many scripts I have seen do have the option of paying for a small upgrade to legally remove it, or you can just go in and hack it out yourself illegally of course.

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    • Babaganoosh
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      • Nov 2001
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      #3
      Originally posted by After Shock Media
      Many scripts I have seen do have the option of paying for a small upgrade to legally remove it, or you can just go in and hack it out yourself illegally of course.
      I don't bother. It's not worth the fight. If they try to advertise their script to my surfers, I won't use the script. I'm not paying their silly little fee to remove their link either. Peddling their script to surfers makes absolutely no sense. Surely they are just doing it to build backlinks.
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      • lbc213
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2006
        • 2673

        #4
        Yeah its pretty annoying, I have seen some places that charge almost double for a un branded version.

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        • lbc213
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2006
          • 2673

          #5
          http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/

          $25 with a link back and $75 to be able to remove the link. Pretty shocking.

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          • Babaganoosh
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            • Nov 2001
            • 15841

            #6
            Originally posted by lbc213
            http://www.phplinkdirectory.com/

            $25 with a link back and $75 to be able to remove the link. Pretty shocking.
            Wow, 3x the price of the script to remove their link? Haha, fuck them.
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            • pinkz
              Mr 1%
              • May 2005
              • 1397

              #7
              i know of one that has your ref code in the powered by link.

              so its not all bad!
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              • Babaganoosh
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                • Nov 2001
                • 15841

                #8
                Originally posted by pornopete
                You can always hire a programmer to write a custom script for you without the link, it will cost you more.
                This is the mindset that prompted my post. When did it become ok for them to force you to link back to their site when you paid for the script?

                Oh, and I am a programmer. I don't need to pay anyone to do any programming for me.
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                • Babaganoosh
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                  • Nov 2001
                  • 15841

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pinkz
                  i know of one that has your ref code in the powered by link.

                  so its not all bad!
                  That's a pretty good idea. That would be a lot more acceptable. Still messed up but I could deal with that.
                  I like pie.

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                  • Zamiboy
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2001
                    • 58

                    #10
                    I'm selling some of my scripts and i woud not dare to force any links to my site on paid script. If i'm giving some of them out for free of charge, then i think it is just fair to show link to my site.
                    Convert your European traffic by 1/20 ratio with mixed traffic!

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                    • Violetta
                      Affiliate
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 28735

                      #11
                      Babaganoosh? Who are you? Nick change?
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                      • aico
                        Moo Moo Cow
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14748

                        #12
                        why should scripts be any different than cars, t-shirts, pants, candy, pizza, beer, etc, etc, etc, etc...?

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                        • Jace
                          FBOP Class Of 2013
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 35562

                          #13
                          Originally posted by aico
                          why should scripts be any different than cars, t-shirts, pants, candy, pizza, beer, etc, etc, etc, etc...?
                          i can remove those logos

                          most scripts are zend encoded so you can't remove the link

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                          • pinkz
                            Mr 1%
                            • May 2005
                            • 1397

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                            That's a pretty good idea. That would be a lot more acceptable. Still messed up but I could deal with that.
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                            • ichauch
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 463

                              #15
                              Many of the commercial script are like this.

                              Look at the bottom of the page and see that gfy does not run a branding-free version, either.

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                              • sortie
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 7771

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                When did it become ok to sell a script but still stick a "powered by" link at the bottom of all of the public pages? If you don't want to show that link, then you can pay an additional fee for an "unbranded" license. If you released a free script, by all means add a powered by link. When I pay for a script, I certainly am not paying for the right to advertise and build backlinks for you as well.
                                I don't put that in any paid scripts, but I really don't think it's a big deal.
                                If a surfer is looking for porn they are not going to click that link.

                                When I used free hosting and free scripts I had those kinds of links all over but it didn't affect my adult sign ups at all.

                                It seems you're more upset about not having control over it than it actually causing you harm.

                                If they tell you to pay more to get it removed then consider that they feel like the cheaper price is not enough to pay for the script but will sell it cheap if they can get traffic back.

                                It's not like they are controling you. It's more like, if you want to be cheap then ok, but you need to send them traffic.

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                                • borked
                                  Totally Borked
                                  • Feb 2005
                                  • 6284

                                  #17
                                  what sortie said

                                  The basic price with linkback in there is that price because the programmer feels the script is being undersold, but is willing to take that hit for the traffic back and possible full-price sales.

                                  Live with it. If you're a programmer, like you say, then write your own and stop whinging. If you can't, then pay the full price and be gone with the link.

                                  Nuff said.

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                                  • candyflip
                                    Carpe Visio
                                    • Jul 2002
                                    • 43069

                                    #18
                                    I purchased TEVS and zorgman has the same setup. I was a bit miffed at that, but still purchased the software. The "pros" outweighed the on "con".

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                                    • Babaganoosh
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                                      • Nov 2001
                                      • 15841

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Rockatansky
                                      Babaganoosh? Who are you? Nick change?
                                      Armed & Hammered. Changed my nick a couple of years ago I think.
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                                      • candyflip
                                        Carpe Visio
                                        • Jul 2002
                                        • 43069

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                        Armed & Hammered. Changed my nick a couple of years ago I think.
                                        A looooooooooooooong time ago. Probably one of the first nick changes.

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                                        • Babaganoosh
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                                          • Nov 2001
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sortie
                                          It's not like they are controling you. It's more like, if you want to be cheap then ok, but you need to send them traffic.
                                          No, they aren't controlling me because I don't buy scripts that have a link back to the developer on the publicly viewable pages. Frankly I think that if they want a link to their site on my site, they need to pay me.
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                                          • Babaganoosh
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                                            • Nov 2001
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by candyflip
                                            A looooooooooooooong time ago. Probably one of the first nick changes.
                                            Yeah, I saw a couple of people change their nicks before me and since I am rarely hammered now the name didn't suit me anymore. I've used the name online since I was in my late teens. I just needed a change.
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                                            • Babaganoosh
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                                              • Nov 2001
                                              • 15841

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by borked
                                              what sortie said

                                              The basic price with linkback in there is that price because the programmer feels the script is being undersold, but is willing to take that hit for the traffic back and possible full-price sales.

                                              Live with it. If you're a programmer, like you say, then write your own and stop whinging. If you can't, then pay the full price and be gone with the link.

                                              Nuff said.
                                              You must be one of the programmers that I am talking about. So if I charge you $500 for a script then it's going to be cool with you if I make you link back to me? Really? Does that make sense to you?
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                                              • Babaganoosh
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                                                • Nov 2001
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by candyflip
                                                I purchased TEVS and zorgman has the same setup. I was a bit miffed at that, but still purchased the software. The "pros" outweighed the on "con".
                                                Doesn't that script just parse hosted galleries for the URL to the video and then imbed it on a page? It's not really a "tube" script with encoding to .flv or anything is it?
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                                                • k0nr4d
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 9231

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                  I don't bother. It's not worth the fight. If they try to advertise their script to my surfers, I won't use the script. I'm not paying their silly little fee to remove their link either. Peddling their script to surfers makes absolutely no sense. Surely they are just doing it to build backlinks.
                                                  heh how many threads have you seen that start what "hey what script is xxxxxxx.com running?" It's not to build backlinks, its marketing. If you don't like having the link at the bottom, either pay them to remove it, pay someone else to remove it for you, hack it out yourself, or find a different script.
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                                                  • CunningStunt
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2006
                                                    • 5594

                                                    #26
                                                    one of my pet peeves as well.

                                                    it's like all the "free wordpress templates" assholes who stick links all over the footer and try and stick them elsewhere.

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                                                    • Babaganoosh
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                                                      • Nov 2001
                                                      • 15841

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CunningStunt
                                                      one of my pet peeves as well.

                                                      it's like all the "free wordpress templates" assholes who stick links all over the footer and try and stick them elsewhere.
                                                      I don't care about freebies. If you didn't pay you can't bitch. If I pay for a script, nobody is going to be using it to advertise on my site.
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                                                      • pornask
                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                        • Aug 2006
                                                        • 6518

                                                        #28
                                                        I'm just throwing my $.02 is all.

                                                        Programmers put some time and effort into these scripts. I think they deserve something in return. I hate backlinks just the same, but I paid the fee to have it removed from my topsites and I keep them on my wordpress blogs. I know they just want backlinks, but look at it from the standpoint of a programmer. It does take some dedication to create something. I don't have an issue with giving them something back in return ;)

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                                                        • candyflip
                                                          Carpe Visio
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 43069

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                          Doesn't that script just parse hosted galleries for the URL to the video and then imbed it on a page? It's not really a "tube" script with encoding to .flv or anything is it?
                                                          Pretty much. My girlfriend said she could have put something similar together, but Zorgman put together a nice package. If this pans out, that may still be an option.

                                                          TEVS is more like an MPG script that capitalizes on the "tube" look and feel. There's no user uploading and no flv encoding. Though, you can use flv video.

                                                          The admin is great and support has been as well. That might have me consider the $50 to remove the linkage as a tip.
                                                          Last edited by candyflip; 01-13-2008, 02:52 PM.

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                                                          • horvy
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jan 2007
                                                            • 811

                                                            #30
                                                            vbulletin is one of the greatest pieces of interent software ever made. shut up
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                                                            • V_RocKs
                                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                              • 32449

                                                              #31
                                                              I smoke crack rocks branded by phpRocKs!

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                                                              • gideongallery
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2003
                                                                • 7082

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                You must be one of the programmers that I am talking about. So if I charge you $500 for a script then it's going to be cool with you if I make you link back to me? Really? Does that make sense to you?
                                                                depends if it was a script that would cost me 1500 to do myself then i would be willing too

                                                                if it was a script that would cost me 600 dollars then i would eat the extra hundred to get rid of the link

                                                                It a marketing approach if they release un unlinked version (regular price) and gave a discount competitors which reversed the transaction (like your complaining) could/would make price comparisions that make them look too expensive

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                                                                • VicD
                                                                  ICQ: 304-611-162
                                                                  • Feb 2005
                                                                  • 13245

                                                                  #33
                                                                  easy money for the script writer

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                                                                  • Nookster
                                                                    Confirmed IT Professional
                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                    • 3744

                                                                    #34
                                                                    How about make your own software or simply follow their rules. If you can't do either you shouldn't be in the biz.
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                                                                    • farkedup
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Nov 2007
                                                                      • 2490

                                                                      #35
                                                                      on my script its currently $20 extra to remove the link.

                                                                      If they want to remove the link its not that much extra.... If you want to remove without paying the extra there isn't shit that I can do about it. Except maybe deny you of some support possibly but if you know your shit you likely won't ever need it anyway.
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                                                                      • Babaganoosh
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                                                                        • Nov 2001
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Nookster
                                                                        How about make your own software or simply follow their rules. If you can't do either you shouldn't be in the biz.
                                                                        Actually I can do both. I have been a programmer for over 10 years. I also used to sell scripts. My scripts never had a link back to my site anywhere the public would see them. Try to learn who you are lipping off to before you go and make an ass out of yourself. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be on GFY.
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                                                                        • farkedup
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Nov 2007
                                                                          • 2490

                                                                          #37
                                                                          WTF are you talking about? isn't that about all there is here? This place would be pretty empty if we couldn't run our mouths without a clue about who we're talking to....
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                                                                          • Linguist
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Apr 2004
                                                                            • 1706

                                                                            #38
                                                                            I don't see what the problem is.

                                                                            The link of the bottom is a part of license agreement to use the software. You don't own the script, the fact that you're paying money to use it doesn't change it. If you feel that you're not getting money's worth then go somewhere else.
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                                                                            • OzMan
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                                                                              • Sep 2003
                                                                              • 9162

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by farkedup
                                                                              WTF are you talking about? isn't that about all there is here? This place would be pretty empty if we couldn't run our mouths without a clue about who we're talking to....
                                                                              GFY is the only place I can get away with running my mouth without a clue who I'm talking to OR what I'm talking about.

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                                                                              • Nookster
                                                                                Confirmed IT Professional
                                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                                • 3744

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                                Actually I can do both. I have been a programmer for over 10 years. I also used to sell scripts. My scripts never had a link back to my site anywhere the public would see them. Try to learn who you are lipping off to before you go and make an ass out of yourself. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be on GFY.
                                                                                LOL I don't give a fuck who you are. I was just telling you what's what. If you don't like it ignore me. If you really don't like it, we can handle it other ways. Best to check around before you start threatening people you don't even know.
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                                                                                • Linguist
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                  • 1706

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                                  You must be one of the programmers that I am talking about. So if I charge you $500 for a script then it's going to be cool with you if I make you link back to me? Really? Does that make sense to you?
                                                                                  I am one of those programmers and it's totally cool with me. If it's a cheapass script that doesn't do much then I wouldn't pay money whether it links to someone or not but if it's worth the money I'd use it with a linkback. Having an option of having 1 less outgoing link is nice but not everyone would need it. If someone needs it I don't see a problem of paying extra to remove it.
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                                                                                  • cykoe6
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Apr 2005
                                                                                    • 4499

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Yea it pisses me off too. Linkx is a good example.
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                                                                                    • DaLord
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2001
                                                                                      • 3318

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      If the script is free (like PHP fusion) I don't mind the link but don't fucking try to charge me AND at the same time add a link.

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                                                                                      • mrthumbs
                                                                                        salad tossing sig guy
                                                                                        • Apr 2002
                                                                                        • 11702

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Those links are as lame as changing your gfy nick

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                                                                                        • nation-x
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                          • 5370

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                                          When did it become ok to sell a script but still stick a "powered by" link at the bottom of all of the public pages? If you don't want to show that link, then you can pay an additional fee for an "unbranded" license. If you released a free script, by all means add a powered by link. When I pay for a script, I certainly am not paying for the right to advertise and build backlinks for you as well.
                                                                                          it's been like that for ages... stfu with the crying. whiny bitch

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                                                                                          • Zorgman
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2002
                                                                                            • 6103

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                                            I certainly am not paying for the right to advertise and build backlinks for you as well.
                                                                                            Good thing you are a programmer then.
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                                                                                            • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                                                              • Jun 2004
                                                                                              • 28609

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              you get what you pay for.

                                                                                              The program is likely subsidizing the cost of the program itself by having backlinks.

                                                                                              i dont see the problem with it unless they arent upfront about it. Its more like they are offering you a deal, not screwing you.

                                                                                              lets use a simple example to explain.

                                                                                              lets pretend you hired me to code you an upload script, lets say it takes me $500 in labour , now lets say i offer to sell you the script . if i sell it for $500 i make money , if i sell it less than $500 i lose money. but if i sell it for $100 and put backlinks on every page , the overall worth to me is $500 but it saves you $400 in labour, im giving you the choice to buy a product for cheaper than it costs to make in exchange for backlinks.
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                                                                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                • Jun 2004
                                                                                                • 28609

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                                                                                                Wow, 3x the price of the script to remove their link? Haha, fuck them.
                                                                                                thats one way to look at it . or you can look at it like the script cost $75 , you can get it for a discount if you sell backlinks on every page for $50
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                                                                                                • D
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2006
                                                                                                  • 7412

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I don't see the problem, either...

                                                                                                  The link is, apparently, just another method of compensation. Say the code costs $x... for those that don't wanna pay $x, there's another method of payment offered: ($x - $y) + promoting the author of the script.

                                                                                                  You look at it and see a programmer charging you more to remove a link. I look at it and see a programmer charging you less for marketing.

                                                                                                  If you don't agree with the terms, don't use/buy the product. Go elsewhere. In theory, we're a free market.
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                                                                                                  • modF
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                                                                    • 1888

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    I don't mind it so much, most of the scripts in adult are way cheap anyhow. I have found some of my best scripts by looking at other sites. If you don't want to remove the link, don't cheap out. That's all.

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