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  • psyko514
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    • Oct 2002
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    #1

    Switching webhosts...

    If you got an active website with active members and you want to switch servers, how do you get around the domain name downtime that'll come with changing your nameservers?

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  • grumpy
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    • Jan 2002
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    #2
    You dont....its a problem......take 24-48 hours for it
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    • rooster
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      • Jan 2003
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      #3
      get all the shit setup on the new host first, then make the nameserver change, and then theres no downtime.
      Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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      • psyko514
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        #4
        Originally posted by rooster
        get all the shit setup on the new host first, then make the nameserver change, and then theres no downtime.
        it takes 24-48 hours for domain-name propagation...

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        • rooster
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          • Jan 2003
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          #5
          log in with the ip
          Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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          • psyko514
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            #6
            Originally posted by rooster
            log in with the ip
            dude, i don't think you're getting it.

            when members try and access your site by it's domain name, it'll be down for 24-48 hrs.
            i'm trying to find a way around that.

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            • rooster
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              • Jan 2003
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              #7
              1. log into new host with ip and set up all your stuff

              2. change nameserver on domain.

              3. they will access the site on your old host and once it starts resolving to the new host, your stuff will already be set up.


              Theres no downtime
              Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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              • psyko514
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                #8
                so you're saying that while the domain name is in the process of being resolved to my new nameservers, it'll still point to my old nameservers?

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                • rooster
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                  • Jan 2003
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                  #9
                  yes
                  Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                  • Warden
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                    • Nov 2002
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by psyko514


                    it takes 24-48 hours for domain-name propagation...

                    Not only that but if you do everything in house that means you have data that needs to be exported. Which means you have to have the DB's closed off and shut down the old site during propagation. If don't have to worry about data, you can always just do a Meta refresh to your new IP.
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                    • quiet
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                      • Sep 2001
                      • 25115

                      #11
                      it's pretty simple. you need to have both hosts operating while the dns progagation takes place. once everything is running off of your new host, you can kill the old one.
                      we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                      • psyko514
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by quiet
                        it's pretty simple. you need to have both hosts operating while the dns progagation takes place. once everything is running off of your new host, you can kill the old one.
                        excellent... thanks everybody.

                        my understanding was that while the dns propagation was taking place, the domain name would be down completely.

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                        • quiet
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                          • Sep 2001
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by psyko514


                          excellent... thanks everybody.

                          my understanding was that while the dns propagation was taking place, the domain name would be down completely.
                          the traffic will gradually shift away from your old host and to your new one - no downtime as long as you have working copies of your sites on both hosts while you wait for propagation to complete itself.
                          we'll miss you our friend. RIP

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                          • psyko514
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                            #14
                            here are some cookies for all those that helped

                            thanks guys


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                            • BluMedia
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                              • Dec 2002
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by rooster
                              1. log into new host with ip and set up all your stuff

                              2. change nameserver on domain.

                              3. they will access the site on your old host and once it starts resolving to the new host, your stuff will already be set up.


                              Theres no downtime

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                              • Eugene_K
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                                • Jan 2002
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                                #16
                                hmm...
                                complicated, but the best solution for dynamic sites:

                                1. Setup all the shit on the new server/IP
                                2. Have new DNS point to the new server/IP
                                3. Have old DNS point to the new server/IP
                                4. Make the modification to domain records, changing old DNS info to the new DNS info
                                5. When all the hits are already coming via the new DNS (48-72 hrs), take down the old server.
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                                • BajaNomad
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                                  • Feb 2003
                                  • 10

                                  #17
                                  And if you're running off a database, transfer it to the new site, and connect the old site to the database on the new site, so that both sites are using the same info.

                                  Runs slow on the disconnected site if it's not behind the same firewall, but it will work.

                                  Make sure you give it a good 4 or 5 days before you kill the old site. Just because it resolves for you through your ISP, doesn't mean it's resolving for everyone else.

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                                  • -=HUNGRYMAN=-
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                                    • Jun 2001
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by grumpy
                                    You dont....its a problem......take 24-48 hours for it
                                    Not true at all ....

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                                    • -=HUNGRYMAN=-
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                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 4751

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Eugene_K
                                      hmm...
                                      complicated, but the best solution for dynamic sites:

                                      1. Setup all the shit on the new server/IP
                                      2. Have new DNS point to the new server/IP
                                      3. Have old DNS point to the new server/IP
                                      4. Make the modification to domain records, changing old DNS info to the new DNS info
                                      5. When all the hits are already coming via the new DNS (48-72 hrs), take down the old server.

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                                      • -=HUNGRYMAN=-
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                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 4751

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by quiet
                                        it's pretty simple. you need to have both hosts operating while the dns progagation takes place. once everything is running off of your new host, you can kill the old one.
                                        exactly!

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