Is war actually the catalyst for human intelligence/development?

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  • pr0
    rockin tha trailerpark
    • May 2001
    • 23088

    #1

    Is war actually the catalyst for human intelligence/development?

    Would we have shuttles in space, if there was no war? (Rocketry)

    Would we have the ability to fly from one end of the continent to the other in such a quick manner? (Jet engines)

    How about the entire Interstate road systems in America that allowed the massive boom of the middle class.

    Would we have the space age polymers, fiber optics, radar, comfortable mattresses & otherwise we take for granted on a daily basis, if it wasn't for war?

    And what about Tang?

    It seems to me that war (controlled war, not anarchy & terror) is not only a good thing (in the long run) but also necessary to the long term future of human kind.

    Feel free to add on another development directly linked to warfare.
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  • StickyGreen
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    • Oct 2003
    • 13076

    #2
    The answer to your first 2 questions: Yes.
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    • spooky181
      Confirmed User
      • Jul 2003
      • 2951

      #3
      Have to say i'd agree to that....

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      • aico
        Moo Moo Cow
        • Mar 2004
        • 14748

        #4
        Would we have war without Religion?

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        • StickyGreen
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          • Oct 2003
          • 13076

          #5
          Originally posted by aico
          Would we have war without Religion?
          Yes, but fewer.
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          • pr0
            rockin tha trailerpark
            • May 2001
            • 23088

            #6
            Originally posted by aico
            Would we have war without Religion?
            well then it would seem government & religion are also necessities

            which is a fucking shame....i see no use for religion
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            • SmokeyTheBear
              ►SouthOfHeaven
              • Jun 2004
              • 28609

              #7
              its not war its oppresion.

              humans develop faster when the majority of them are slaves.

              war just helps make the lines more clear
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              • pr0
                rockin tha trailerpark
                • May 2001
                • 23088

                #8
                Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                its not war its oppression.

                humans develop faster when the majority of them are slaves.

                war just helps make the lines more clear
                I guess W.A.R. looks better than O.P.P.R.E.S.S.I.ON on the walls of secret societies
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                • kane
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 20684

                  #9
                  Not to sound too hippy but imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't have any military or any wars. All the trillions of dollars that are spent on military, even in peace time, could be put towards something else. The amount of research that could fund is staggering.

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                  • StickyGreen
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                    • Oct 2003
                    • 13076

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kane
                    Not to sound too hippy but imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't have any military or any wars. All the trillions of dollars that are spent on military, even in peace time, could be put towards something else. The amount of research that could fund is staggering.
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                    • who
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 19593

                      #11
                      All these things are not accomplishments.

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                      • baddog
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 107089

                        #12
                        The strides in medicine as a result of war are astronomical.

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                        • pr0
                          rockin tha trailerpark
                          • May 2001
                          • 23088

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kane
                          Not to sound too hippy but imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't have any military or any wars. All the trillions of dollars that are spent on military, even in peace time, could be put towards something else. The amount of research that could fund is staggering.
                          If we never made anything to "destroy", what would we do if an asteroid was heading for us? Or even a hostile alien civilization?

                          Show them how peaceful & enlightened we are? Pray them away?

                          I'm all for peace....& I'm pretty fucking hippy. But i also see a clear need for a good world war once in awhile.
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                          • baddog
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Apr 2001
                            • 107089

                            #14
                            Originally posted by kane
                            Not to sound too hippy but imagine what we could accomplish if we didn't have any military or any wars.
                            No doubt. Look at all the advances Canada has made as a result of having a minimal military budget.

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                            • pr0
                              rockin tha trailerpark
                              • May 2001
                              • 23088

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baddog
                              No doubt. Look at all the advances Canada has made as a result of having a minimal military budget.
                              But they did bring us........

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                              Peter North
                              Bryan Adams
                              Neil Young
                              Jim Carrey
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                              • halfpint
                                GFY's Halfpint
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 15223

                                #16
                                We have been waring with each other ever since we were cave men, even if it was with just clubs and rocks but diff clans would fight for land. I think it is a human thing and not religious, I think people hide behind religion as an excuse for war. but at least we invented the nuclear bomb because of war, now that was a great leap forward..

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                                • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2006
                                  • 3143

                                  #17
                                  Does war increase IQ and or DQ... I think not !!!

                                  "Is war actually the catalyst for human intelligence/development?"

                                  NO... if people were intelligent and developed properly they would not need to seek altercations in way of seeking to engage in wars just to proof themselves more superior to others just as a method of mass control.

                                  Does war increase ones IQ and or DQ... People spend more time thinking about creating problems as to be solved then there are people solving the actual problems created. If there were more people willing to actually solve problems as those who are creating such then there would be a lot more peace...

                                  Just something to think about,


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                                  • JFK
                                    FUBAR the ORIGINATOR
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 67369

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pr0
                                    But they did bring us........

                                    Avril Lavigne
                                    Pamela Anderson
                                    Romeo Dallaire
                                    Shania Twain
                                    Nelly Furtado
                                    Shannon Tweed
                                    Barenakedladies
                                    Keanu Reeves
                                    Celine Dion
                                    Alanis Morissette
                                    Peter North
                                    Bryan Adams
                                    Neil Young
                                    Jim Carrey
                                    Natasha Henstridge
                                    Jennifer Tilly
                                    Sarah McLachlan
                                    Leonard Cohen
                                    Kristin Kreuk

                                    and supposedly synthetic insulin & sold thomas edison the patent to the light bulb
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                                    • kane
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 20684

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                      No doubt. Look at all the advances Canada has made as a result of having a minimal military budget.
                                      True there are a lot of countries that spend next to nothing on their military and they have nothing great to show for it, but, no disrespect to any of those countries, they don't have an economy like we do. We spend more on military stuff than about 95% of the countries in the world have in their entire economy. we spend around 400 billion a year on military stuff that's not even counting the sheer brain power that goes into inventing and improving the stuff we have.

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                                      • dynastoned
                                        mmm yeah!
                                        • Feb 2005
                                        • 5061

                                        #20
                                        thats hard to say. war creates more problems for us as humans to solve. in turn creating more possibilities to improve ourselves as humans. however war has many casualties giving us less people to help solve the problems.

                                        but i guess in the end it does spark a reaction. which in my opinion is enough to improve and progress us as human beings. now is war essential i don't believe it is. if we focused our problems on something other then war we could still achieve that same type of formula.

                                        if you ask me though war is not a very efficient way of moving our race forward.

                                        another question might be is war inevitable or can it be avoided. i guess if the human race survives another 20,000 years we might find out. because its obvious we haven't learned shit from the first 20,000.

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                                        • DamageX
                                          Marketing & Strategy
                                          • Jun 2001
                                          • 14293

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                          No doubt. Look at all the advances Canada has made as a result of having a minimal military budget.
                                          But, but... They haven't liberated anyone!
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                                          • headless ghost
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2005
                                            • 893

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                            No doubt. Look at all the advances Canada has made as a result of having a minimal military budget.
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                                            • Grapesoda
                                              So Fucking Banned
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 46234

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pr0
                                              Would we have shuttles in space, if there was no war? (Rocketry)

                                              Would we have the ability to fly from one end of the continent to the other in such a quick manner? (Jet engines)

                                              How about the entire Interstate road systems in America that allowed the massive boom of the middle class.

                                              Would we have the space age polymers, fiber optics, radar, comfortable mattresses & otherwise we take for granted on a daily basis, if it wasn't for war?

                                              And what about Tang?

                                              It seems to me that war (controlled war, not anarchy & terror) is not only a good thing (in the long run) but also necessary to the long term future of human kind.

                                              Feel free to add on another development directly linked to warfare.
                                              extreme pressure is the catalyst for achievement. and war sure does that. so do several other things like love and devotion. war is just so much more available to us.

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                                              • Grapesoda
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Jul 2003
                                                • 46234

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by baddog
                                                No doubt. Look at all the advances Canada has made as a result of having a minimal military budget.
                                                yes, the comparison I read was 500 years of peace in Switzerland produces the coo coo clock while 60 years of bloody revolution in Italy produces the Renaissance. go figure?

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                                                • cherrylula
                                                  lol
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 15969

                                                  #25
                                                  War is industry, and with industry comes development and innovation to increase the bottom line.

                                                  Now justifying the act of war to bring us things like Tang, well that's another discussion.

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                                                  • bronco67
                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                    • Dec 2006
                                                    • 29026

                                                    #26
                                                    As much as we'd all like to live a utopian world, free of wars, you have to admit that the world is shaped by war. It's an organic part of the planet's development.

                                                    We're basically a self-aware virus with pants, fighting with other viruses for space to build shopping malls. When the earth doesn't want us here anymore, it'll get rid of us like the flu.

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                                                    • yahoo-xxx-girls.com
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                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                      • 3143

                                                      #27
                                                      Bump... ^^

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                                                      • pr0
                                                        rockin tha trailerpark
                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 23088

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                        extreme pressure is the catalyst for achievement. and war sure does that. so do several other things like love and devotion. war is just so much more available to us.
                                                        love always seemed to produce complacency & stagnation of ideas in the people i knew.....
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                                                        • baddog
                                                          So Fucking Banned
                                                          • Apr 2001
                                                          • 107089

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by bm bradley
                                                          yes, the comparison I read was 500 years of peace in Switzerland produces the coo coo clock while 60 years of bloody revolution in Italy produces the Renaissance. go figure?
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