"Buzzed" driving

[ItBurnsWhenIpee]

I posted this in another thread but it got buried on the 3rd page so I'm going to post again.

I don't know if people are going to get pissed at me for this, but I have a question. I think drunk driving is as bad as everyone else does, but I've always wondered...there are THOUSANDS of accidents that happen every day, right? And most of the time everyone is sober. I guess my question is, how do you know for SURE that the accident was caused by the alcohol in someone's system if they only had a couple?

I'm just saying that every few seconds in America there is probably a time where someone makes a turn and they don't see someone else is there, and there is an accident. Something happens too fast and they couldn't react in time. Every second there is also probably someone who had a few drinks but arrives home safely.

Of course being impaired by alcohol increases your chances of an accident, but if someone only had a couple drinks, I don't know if they should really go to jail for getting in an accident, considering there really is no way of knowing if the accident would have happened had they been sober. I don't think there's much of a difference in reaction time between having 2 drinks or just being really tired. Should being really tired when driving be something that someone should be put in jail for if they get in an accident? Does this make any sense?

And of course none of my questions apply to people who are driving DRUNK, just buzzed.

Edit: I'm not saying drunk driving should be legal, folks. Just making a point about how you never really know, if it's just buzzed

[LiveDose]

yeaaaah yeaaaah great post let's tell our kids to go out and play in traffic.

Don't be idiotic.

[Juicy D. Links]

What about getting a blowjob while doing 80 on the highway?

[Amputate Your Head]

doesn't matter. There is no excuse for a preventable accident. And 99.9% of accidents are preventable.

[WarChild]

Not to mention I can slug back 12 beers and still have better eye site and sharper reflexes than old granny rotten snatch.

Still .. When you get behind the wheel of an automobile, it's pretty much your duty to do every possible thing in your power to avoid an accident. This sorta includes drinking, no?

Daymon

[LiveDose]

Originally posted by juicylinks
What about getting a blowjob while doing 80 on the highway?

Highway head is of course safe and always encouraged...

[ItBurnsWhenIpee]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
doesn't matter. There is no excuse for a preventable accident. And 99.9% of accidents are preventable.

Very true...there is still no excuse

[ItBurnsWhenIpee]

Originally posted by WarChild
Not to mention I can slug back 12 beers and still have better eye site and sharper reflexes than old granny rotten snatch.

Still .. When you get behind the wheel of an automobile, it's pretty much your duty to do every possible thing in your power to avoid an accident. This sorta includes drinking, no?

Daymon

Yes...that's right. But we do plenty of things that stop us from being totally sharp when driving. Like arguing on a cell phone with someone while playing with the radio. Both legal.

[Sarah_Jayne]

talking on a cellphone whilst driving isn't legal in the UK anymore.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee


Yes...that's right. But we do plenty of things that stop us from being totally sharp when driving. Like arguing on a cell phone with someone while playing with the radio. Both legal.

perhaps... but if you kill someone because you're arguing on your cell phone, you're still responsible. Not sure where you're trying to go with this, but if you're trying to say that drinking and driving should be legal just because being tired or cell phone arguing can be dangerous, you're going nowhere. It'll never happen.

[FATPad]

Why don't we let heavy construction equipment operators work drunk too?

They may have knocked over that building anyways.

Pilots should be allowed to fly drunk, too. The plane may have crashed anyways.

How about we serve cocktails to brain surgeons right before surgery? They may have snipped the wrong artery anyways.

[Rich]

I don't really agree, but what you say is true to a point. If I have one beer and drive in Winnipeg, that's over the limit. It takes me at least 5-6 to start getting buzzed. If I have one beer, then get into an accident, it was just me being stupid, not drunk, but it would be considered a DUI.

[ItBurnsWhenIpee]

Originally posted by Rich
I don't really agree, but what you say is true to a point. If I have one beer and drive in Winnipeg, that's over the limit. It takes me at least 5-6 to start getting buzzed. If I have one beer, then get into an accident, it was just me being stupid, not drunk, but it would be considered a DUI.

Right this is what I'm saying I guess.

[ItBurnsWhenIpee]

Originally posted by FATPad
Why don't we let heavy construction equipment operators work drunk too?

They may have knocked over that building anyways.

Pilots should be allowed to fly drunk, too. The plane may have crashed anyways.

How about we serve cocktails to brain surgeons right before surgery? They may have snipped the wrong artery anyways.

I don't think you read the part of my post when I was talking about how this is about driving BUZZED, not drunk.

And I'm not saying it should be legal anyway, just making a point

[Sarah_Jayne]

yeah well you still knew that you shouldn't have been drinking and driving and you have no way in knowing exactly how that impacted your driving. Maybe it made you be more stupid than normal (that isn't you..i'm using a general you).


Sorry, no sympathy.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by sarah_webinc
Sorry, no sympathy.

word

[FATPad]

Originally posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee


I don't think you read the part of my post when I was talking about how this is about driving BUZZED, not drunk.

And I'm not saying it should be legal anyway, just making a point

So substitute the word "buzzed" for "drunk" in my post.

Concept is still the same.

[ItBurnsWhenIpee]

Originally posted by FATPad
So substitute the word "buzzed" for "drunk" in my post.

Concept is still the same.

I agree really...I'm just playing devil's advocate I guess

[sandman!]

DUI laws are bullshit a few months ago there was a guy driving home from a family party with his wife and kids somone hit him in the side of his minivan and one of his kids dies they did a bloodtest on the guy and he was a little over the legal limit and they are going to charge him with reckless homiside according to the cops because if he was sober mayee he would have seen the idiot that plowed into his car.


Dumb fucking cops

[cherrylula]

Originally posted by sarah_webinc
talking on a cellphone whilst driving isn't legal in the UK anymore.

This should be illegal in the US also.

I am sick of seeing SUV's with five kids jumping around in the back and mom is driving half way out of her lane because she's on the fucking phone.

The other day Fletch was trying to get this bitch to hit us, I swear. That scenario should be included in driving tests, the bitch would have never passed.

[ItBurnsWhenIpee]

Originally posted by sandman!
DUI laws are bullshit a few months ago there was a guy driving home from a family party with his wife and kids somone hit im in the side of his minivan and one of his kids dies they did a bloodtest on the guy and he was a little over the legal limit and they are going to charge him with reckless homiside according to the cops because if he was sober mayee he would have seen the idiot that plowed into his car.


Dumb fucking cops

This is the kind of story I'm talking about. Drunk driving is wrong, of course, but there are times when it's not the cause of an accident and I think people should realize that

[sandman!]

Originally posted by ItBurnsWhenIpee


This is the kind of story I'm talking about. Drunk driving is wrong, of course, but there are times when it's not the cause of an accident and I think people should realize that

If you were sitting at a red light and someone plowed into your car cops would still give you a dui too many idiots driving piss ass drunk have got the laws to the point that cops could sit in front of any club on a sat and give 80% of people driving away dui's

[Kimmykim]

bottom line is that there has to be a line. whether its not drinking at all before driving, not talking on cell phones, whatever the point of the situation is, there still has to be a line.

and once those lines are made into laws, you realize that if you cross them and get caught, you are going to get into trouble...

[evildick]

In Ontario we now have the toughest drunk driving laws in all of North America.

first offence =
$650 fine minimum (they double it if they are in a bad mood or you blew double over the legal limit.)

Automatic 1 year driving prohibition, in addition to the initial 3 months suspension you receive when you are first charged, regardless of guilt or innocence.

You have to take an 8 hour course on alcohol awareness ($500) plus do a 6 month follow up interview before you can get your license back.

Now here is the kicker:

After the first year of prohibition is up you have to have an ignition interlock system installed in your vehicle for an additional 12 months. ($100 per month rent + plus about $400 installation fee). You can't drive any vehicle not equipped with one. (not even a dirt bike or ATV, hell not even a Segway.)

You have to blow in that fucker before your vehicle starts, and at random intervals afterwards. If you don't blow in time, or if it detects alcohol, the lights start to flash, the horn blows and the engine is shut off (even if you are driving 70 MPH down the highway).

Add to that lawyer's fees ($750 just to have a lawyer review your case and tell you to plead guilty), plus insurance rates that triple or quadruple for 3 years afterwards, and the bottom line is, it's just not worth it anymore.

I personally find this new ignition interlock law to be barbaric for a first offence. Repeat offenders deserve it, but not for a first offense.

[haggard]

"there is probably a time where someone makes a turn and they don't see someone else is there, and there is an accident. Something happens too fast and they couldn't react in time."


DAYAMN! you gotz to be the most IGGNANT' muthafucka on this board. damn alcohol done affected cuz so all the above would happen.

shiet, i wish you would reply back....

i'd slap the living shiet outta youse.

[Rex]

There was a reason this post was buried.

[detoxed]

Originally posted by juicylinks
What about getting a blowjob while doing 80 on the highway?

ahh memories