Capping streaming bandwidth??

[googoo]

We added streaming vids to our site last month. With a set fee for our member base size, but with a cost per gig fee should we go over our alloted bandwidth. Our members are just slurping the feeds down like crazee, jamming us way over our alloted amount of bandwidth. What's the best way to handle this without paying a fortune for the extra bandwidth? Should we do a cap on usage per day, stopping the feeds when that's been reached. And then opening up the next day. Or would members riot against that? Would like to hear how other folks are dealing with this on their site.

[Phil21]

Bandwidth is cheap, don't cheap out on your members in this area. It really is a minor cost of business after you reach a certain point.

If your current host is really expensive, you can find loads of other hosts to offload the streaming/high bandwidth stuff on pretty cheap, and still get high quality.

Of course, hit me up if you need such a service.

-Phil

[googoo]

Phil -- thanks for the quick response.

We aren't hosting the feeds, the vid provider hosts them, but then charges out for the bandwidth when it starts going over so many gigs a month. They're charging like 5 bucks per gig, something like that, when we go over. Is that a pretty standard fee (5 bucks)?

[notjoe]

Originally posted by googoo
We added streaming vids to our site last month. With a set fee for our member base size, but with a cost per gig fee should we go over our alloted bandwidth. Our members are just slurping the feeds down like crazee, jamming us way over our alloted amount of bandwidth. What's the best way to handle this without paying a fortune for the extra bandwidth? Should we do a cap on usage per day, stopping the feeds when that's been reached. And then opening up the next day. Or would members riot against that? Would like to hear how other folks are dealing with this on their site.

get leased content and it'll reduce the load on your bandwidth

[jonesy]

5 bucks per gig is a lot. a real host will charge $2 per gig.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by jonesy
5 bucks per gig is a lot. a real host will charge $2 per gig.

you can get it for like $0.05/gig from cogent!

[xxxdesign-net]

Originally posted by notjoe

you can get it for like $0.05/gig from cogent!

I think you meant $0.50/gig ??

[p!mpd0g]

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



I think you meant $0.50/gig ??

notjoe charges $6 per gig in overage.. id be very careful of getting anything through him.. if you dont pay 24hrs after the bill is recieved, then he will turn your shit off.

besides $6 in overage is insane. Only a 21 yr old idiot like notjoe will charge that.

p.s. checks in the mail.. LOL

[googoo]

Originally posted by notjoe


get leased content and it'll reduce the load on your bandwidth

These feeds are leased -- we pay a flat rate but ALSO get charged if we go over the alotted gig transfer per month.

[p00p]

Originally posted by googoo


These feeds are leased -- we pay a flat rate but ALSO get charged if we go over the alotted gig transfer per month.

GooGoo, that is the cost of doing business. You can throttle your users on your own server, but as soon as they leave your site to go to your leased content, you are at the mercy of the surfer, and the company selling you the feeds.

If it is hitting your pocket book, get rid of the feeds. It may be cheaper to buy video from a producer, host it on your own domain, and throttle your members locally (on your server).

[googoo]

p00p

What do you mean "throttle"?

[notjoe]

Originally posted by p!mpd0g


notjoe charges $6 per gig in overage.. id be very careful of getting anything through him.. if you dont pay 24hrs after the bill is recieved, then he will turn your shit off.

besides $6 in overage is insane. Only a 21 yr old idiot like notjoe will charge that.

p.s. checks in the mail.. LOL

Dont listen to pimpdog as he has absolutely no business sense.

What would it be like if everyone went around selling everything for cost? Pimpdog doesnt quite grasp the concept of it.

The movies cost money to produce, the time to encode costs money, the bandwidth i use costs money, the encoding servers cost money, the streaming servers cost money, time spent programming cost money and i could keep going on and on and on.

How about the fact that the content isnt overused, or how about the quality of the content is about the best on the net offered by a plugin company so far?

Lets mention the facts 1) you dont pay bills 2) how many free gigs of bandwidth did i give you the month before?

As for the cost per gig, we're pretty cheap compared to others who i have seen charged in excess of $15/gig.

Pimpdog doesnt understand that to make money you need to spend money, to keep your users you need to offer them something unique. I guess that is why he will fail.


If you want the best paysites out there and you want to keep your users you will need to spend money, that is the bottom line which pimpdog doesnt quite grasp.

[Mutt]

$6 bucks a gig for good movie content is not unreasonable. Take a look at what the quality video streaming providers are charging - many are above $6/gig overage.

The guys giving it away do it because the content is garbage, doesn't hold one member a day longer.

Take a look at strapon.com, he buys VOD streams from Gamelink, costs him an arm and a leg but guess what - he's been doing it for 2 years - means it works for him.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by Mutt
$6 bucks a gig for good movie content is not unreasonable. Take a look at what the quality video streaming providers are charging - many are above $6/gig overage.

The guys giving it away do it because the content is garbage, doesn't hold one member a day longer.

Take a look at strapon.com, he buys VOD streams from Gamelink, costs him an arm and a leg but guess what - he's been doing it for 2 years - means it works for him.

You're such a fucking idiot you dont even make sense

"$6 bucks a gig for good movie content is not unreasonable. Take a look at what the quality video streaming providers are charging - many are above $6/gig overage. "

Ok, so $6/gig for good movie content is good right?

"The guys giving it away do it because the content is garbage, doesn't hold one member a day longer. "

Well, if i am giving it away at $6/gig then it must be really fucking good! thanks for the complements! As for holding a member longer, your right, 200+ high quality DVDS, which quite a few are new releases, will make your members cancel!


BTW: the 200 dvds is only a drop in the bucket. Once we got thousands of feeds up you will see the pricing of what it is really worth (and of course we will honour all deals made previous to the price changing) as i dont do the bait & hook routine.

[kristin]

I don't think $6/GB is outrageous, it must be good, you said yourself the members are sucking it down. Personally, I will start a person with a package of X amount of GB, and if they go over, they get charged the same rate. But, if they go over by a crazy amount, I will work a deal with them. If you are really worried about going over, just cap it. Just my

[notjoe]

Originally posted by kristin
I don't think $6/GB is outrageous, it must be good, you said yourself the members are sucking it down. Personally, I will start a person with a package of X amount of GB, and if they go over, they get charged the same rate. But, if they go over by a crazy amount, I will work a deal with them. If you are really worried about going over, just cap it. Just my

We pretty much do the same thing over here as well... I should have never gave pimpdog those free 40 gigs last month but i thought i would be nice and give him a bit of a break and start the overage the following month, which he still decided to stiff me on.

However, i do have good customers who like paying their bill and those are the ones i dont mind cutting breaks, i dont mind cutting newb paysites some breaks either since i know how hard it is to get em going and they generally dont have all that much cash to play with

Guess that is what i get for being a nice guy (not that this will change that at all._