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[sonofsam]

Okay, this is really hard for me to come back here and type this shit, but i felt that i owed it to some people who invested time into me and helped me etc..

I just want to say that i never wanted to fuck any affiliates over. I just want to say what happened about how my program went down without any warning to affiliates etc.

I understand you guys will still hate me, and i just want to say that i am completely out of online, and that me making this thread is just something i've personally felt i needed to do for a long time... and now that my head is more clear, i'm able to do it.

Here is the real way my program went down. More then a year ago... I started having a really hard time sleeping every night. I would wake up numerous times a night because of my breathing problems. I went to a doctor and turns out i had a clogged airway, and needed surgery.... the surgery cost over 5000.. that i didnt have my hands on at the time... and medicare didn't think i needed the surgery because it wasn't urgent, so it was NOT covered.

(people like baddog started spreading rumors that i got the 5000 loan so i could buy a motorcycle since the motorcycle had been around that time... which is COMPLETELY false, because i have a records of my surgery cost, and also have my loan documents sitting beside me with proof that it was a 0 down loan... or if anybody is in vancouver, they can come take at the loan documents themselves)

So i asked kevin from thebestporn for a loan... the deal was that he would lend me 5000 and i would pay him back within 2 months... but since he was giving me the loan i would pay him 1500 interest.... 1500 interest for a 5000 loan for 2 months.... anyways... i had to use my domains juliablue, sexfeeder as collateral to get the loan... so i transfered the domains to him and he sent me the 5000..... within 2 months i had paid him his 5000 back... so he now had his money back, and still had my domains... now i wasnt able to pay the interest on time... because of some other stuff that happened.. not going to make any excuses about that, but i just couldnt pay the 1500 back in time... but i figured since he got his money back and still had my domains he would hold on to them for quite a while... my mistake... i was wrong..so he sold the domains to baddog... i'm sure baddog didn't even value the domains at 1500, but figured since he hated me so much it would be worth it... which i would have in all honestly done the same thing in his place.. I don't blame kevin for this.. it was my fault..

baddog got the domains and redirected them to lightspeed etc etc...

Now i'm truly sorry i didnt send a warning to affiliates that all their links would be redirected... that was a completely stupid move on my part, but i was just in such a fucked up mindset at the time that it didnt even occur to me that i should have done that right away.. i was just really pissed and frustrated... mostly at myself for fuckign up this bad in adult...

my adult program was a complete bomb... i fucked up so badly, and couldn't make it work... and i really really fucking wanted it to work... i wanted it so badly, but i clearly was not cut out for this.... (no shit huh?) i wasted 2 years of my life.. lost 15-20k+ and it was a horrible failure...

sorry to the people i fucked over in this process of my program going down.. i truly am sorry, but i know that in itself probably wont be enough for you to forgive my mistakes..

and mostly i'm sorry to the people who defended and spoke highly of me... and the people who helped me so much along the way (chio... mutt... aftershock.. andy etc), for me to turn around and fuck up like this and make them look like idiots as well..

i hope everyone is doing well, and if u have anythin u need to say to me... i'll be online on icq for a long time or i'll try and reply to you in this thread...

[sonofsam]

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[Jace]

sonofsam killed people

[SomeCreep]

sig spot...

I'd spot you a cig, but I'm all out.

[paymeback]

where are the drawings??

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

And you had the nerve to give me a hard time you stupid fuck, your nothing but a waste of space and time, I can?t believe I just sat there and read that bullshit sob story.

[karlm]

You always seemed like a decent gut to me.

Shame they sold ur domains on comeone you did pay of the initial amount.

But maybe its what ya needed to kick u up ur ass to get out of online and find a good job

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

Okay, this is really hard for me to come back here and type this shit, but i felt that i owed it to some people who invested time into me and helped me etc..

I just want to say that i never wanted to fuck any affiliates over. I just want to say what happened about how my program went down without any warning to affiliates etc.

I understand you guys will still hate me, and i just want to say that i am completely out of online, and that me making this thread is just something i've personally felt i needed to do for a long time... and now that my head is more clear, i'm able to do it.

Here is the real way my program went down. More then a year ago... I started having a really hard time sleeping every night. I would wake up numerous times a night because of my breathing problems. I went to a doctor and turns out i had a clogged airway, and needed surgery.... the surgery cost over 5000.. that i didnt have my hands on at the time... and medicare didn't think i needed the surgery because it wasn't urgent, so it was NOT covered.

(people like baddog started spreading rumors that i got the 5000 loan so i could buy a motorcycle since the motorcycle had been around that time... which is COMPLETELY false, because i have a records of my surgery cost, and also have my loan documents sitting beside me with proof that it was a 0 down loan... or if anybody is in vancouver, they can come take at the loan documents themselves)

So i asked kevin from thebestporn for a loan... the deal was that he would lend me 5000 and i would pay him back within 2 months... but since he was giving me the loan i would pay him 1500 interest.... 1500 interest for a 5000 loan for 2 months.... anyways... i had to use my domains juliablue, sexfeeder as collateral to get the loan... so i transfered the domains to him and he sent me the 5000..... within 2 months i had paid him his 5000 back... so he now had his money back, and still had my domains... now i wasnt able to pay the interest on time... because of some other stuff that happened.. not going to make any excuses about that, but i just couldnt pay the 1500 back in time... but i figured since he got his money back and still had my domains he would hold on to them for quite a while... my mistake... i was wrong..so he sold the domains to baddog... i'm sure baddog didn't even value the domains at 1500, but figured since he hated me so much it would be worth it... which i would have in all honestly done the same thing in his place.. I don't blame kevin for this.. it was my fault..

baddog got the domains and redirected them to lightspeed etc etc...

Now i'm truly sorry i didnt send a warning to affiliates that all their links would be redirected... that was a completely stupid move on my part, but i was just in such a fucked up mindset at the time that it didnt even occur to me that i should have done that right away.. i was just really pissed and frustrated... mostly at myself for fuckign up this bad in adult...

my adult program was a complete bomb... i fucked up so badly, and couldn't make it work... and i really really fucking wanted it to work... i wanted it so badly, but i clearly was not cut out for this.... (no shit huh?) i wasted 2 years of my life.. lost 15-20k+ and it was a horrible failure...

sorry to the people i fucked over in this process of my program going down.. i truly am sorry, but i know that in itself probably wont be enough for you to forgive my mistakes..

and mostly i'm sorry to the people who defended and spoke highly of me... and the people who helped me so much along the way (chio... mutt... aftershock.. andy etc), for me to turn around and fuck up like this and make them look like idiots as well..

i hope everyone is doing well, and if u have anythin u need to say to me... i'll be online on icq for a long time or i'll try and reply to you in this thread...

[SomeCreep]

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

Its a pity you did not choke on whatever the fuck it was in your airways.

[sonofsam]

And you had the nerve to give me a hard time you stupid fuck, your nothing but a waste of space and time, I can?t believe I just sat there and read that bullshit sob story.

Oh its you... don't worry, you're already following closely in my footsteps of failing in adult... i'll save you a job at mcdonalds

[ssp]

Good luck with any future endeavors, it's never too late to start over again.

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

Oh its you... don't worry, you're already following closely in my footsteps of failing in adult... i'll save you a job at mcdonalds

You are so delusional it is not funny

[ContentSHOOTER]

Oh its you... don't worry, you're already following closely in my footsteps of failing in adult... i'll save you a job at mcdonalds

[abyss_al]

good luck

[sonofsam]

good luck

[quiet]

i miss the cartoons.

[sonofsam]

i miss the cartoons.

okay heres one just for you...

[ContentSHOOTER]

okay heres one just for you...

Beautiful

[sonofsam]

lol batts is telling me he hopes i choke to death on icq... and that he hopes i die.. and that i deserve to die... telling me i should commit suicide...


and heres the funny part... u know why hes so mad?

no.. he wasnt an affiliate or ever had any business dealings with me... hes this mad because i used to give him a hard time on GFY a year or so ago... when he thought he was so cool for posing with models and making 30 threads on gfy about it...


cry some more batts

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

lol batts is telling me he hopes i choke to death on icq... and that he hopes i die.. and that i deserve to die... telling me i should commit suicide...


and heres the funny part... u know why hes so mad?

no.. he wasnt an affiliate or ever had any business dealings with me... hes this mad because i used to give him a hard time on GFY a year or so ago... when he thought he was so cool for posing with models and making 30 threads on gfy about it...


cry some more batts

Oh yeah you got me again,

[Anna_O]

Can't you post all your drawings in this thread as a nice goodbye to the gfy community?

[abyss_al]

[sonofsam]

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 3:52 AM
From : Batts
suck a dick

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:03 AM
From : Batts
how does go fuck yourself sound

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:06 AM
From : Batts
i dont give a fuck, you are a filthy fucking scumbag who deserves everything he gets

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:06 AM
From : Batts
go and choke you fuckwit

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:09 AM
From : Batts
hey cunt

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:09 AM
From : Batts
just die already

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:09 AM
From : Batts
do the world a favour

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:10 AM
From : Batts
go and shoot yourself in the head, or choke on what ever the fuck it is that is in your airway





I need a translator... is this australian for "my girls are ugly and i will soon fail in adult like sonofsam?"

[who]

I want some taco bell.

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 3:52 AM
From : Batts
suck a dick

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:03 AM
From : Batts
how does go fuck yourself sound

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:06 AM
From : Batts
i dont give a fuck, you are a filthy fucking scumbag who deserves everything he gets

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:06 AM
From : Batts
go and choke you fuckwit

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:09 AM
From : Batts
hey cunt

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:09 AM
From : Batts
just die already

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:09 AM
From : Batts
do the world a favour

Date : 17/05/2002 Time : 4:10 AM
From : Batts
go and shoot yourself in the head, or choke on what ever the fuck it is that is in your airway





I need a translator... is this australian for "my girls are ugly and i will soon fail in adult like sonofsam?"

[The Ghost]

Are you currently doing any work in adult?

[sonofsam]

Are you currently doing any work in adult?

No sir...

[Aussie Rebel]

Too long, cliff notes?

[sonofsam]

Too long, cliff notes?

-sonofsams sorry
-batts's models are ugly.... like kangaroo diarrea after the kangaroos ate taco bell

[en21]

hmmm... drama ...

[BusterBunny]

this thread is useless without shanks

[sonofsam]

hmmm... drama ...

[Damian_Maxcash]

You fucked up - you aren't the first and wont be the last.

I do agree that few people here where a bit too eager to kick you when you where down, but that will happen in any business - not just adult - in fact it will happen in life in general.

Good learning experience for you though - don't run before you can walk

Good luck.

[StuartD]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you lacked any semblance of professionalism. You had none and yet you tried to run a business. Had you of developed some, you'd have survived the ordeal better than you did.
And this thread proves that you still lack any sense of professionalism.

Look at how childish your posts have come across. And yes, Batts was an ass first, but you had the opportunity to be the bigger man.

Your first post in this thread was great and people would have thought "wow, he's grown up" but then you kept posting.

[Aussie Rebel]

-sonofsams sorry
-batts's models are ugly.... like kangaroo diarrea after the kangaroos ate taco bell

mmmm kangaroos yumm

[Mr.Right - Banned For Life]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you lacked any semblance of professionalism. You had none and yet you tried to run a business. Had you of developed some, you'd have survived the ordeal better than you did.
And this thread proves that you still lack any sense of professionalism.

Look at how childish your posts have come across. And yes, Batts was an ass first, but you had the opportunity to be the bigger man.

Your first post in this thread was great and people would have thought "wow, he's grown up" but then you kept posting.

Hey Stuart, i have been trying to hit you up on ICQ

[StuartD]

Hey Stuart, i have been trying to hit you up on ICQ

Yeah, I got one message from you... and replied but haven't heard anything since. Messaging you again now.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

WB SoS...

ADG

[Screaming]

so you are done?

[polish_aristocrat]

this thread proves once again that there are too many affiliate programs and everyone starts a new one hoping it's the only way to big bucks

actually sonofsam you were/are smart, so im not sure why you didnt see that

oh and you could have easily entered the "bro club" by becoming a sales rep or so, that would probably bring you money.... which would be better than losing money on a program which was a failure

[polish_aristocrat]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, you lacked any semblance of professionalism. You had none and yet you tried to run a business. Had you of developed some, you'd have survived the ordeal better than you did.
And this thread proves that you still lack any sense of professionalism.

Look at how childish your posts have come across. And yes, Batts was an ass first, but you had the opportunity to be the bigger man.

Your first post in this thread was great and people would have thought "wow, he's grown up" but then you kept posting.

actually many people in this industry lack professionalism

but they have more drive or better business sense and they succeed nevertheless

[polish_aristocrat]

then again, there's nothing wrong with your failure, you're 21, right?

you don't really need to concentrate on biz, even though most people here will tell you that's the most important thing in life

you made some wrong choices and apart from surprising your affiliates with your domains redirecting suddenly to Lightspeed, you didn't do much wrong

if anything, you disappointed a few people here who thought you're smart enough to not make such mistakes

BTE there can't have been too many of these affiliates anyway, if there were many of them, you wouldn't need a $5k loan :-)))))

[SykkBoy]

this thread proves once again that there are too many affiliate programs and everyone starts a new one hoping it's the only way to big bucks

actually sonofsam you were/are smart, so im not sure why you didnt see that

oh and you could have easily entered the "bro club" by becoming a sales rep or so, that would probably bring you money.... which would be better than losing money on a program which was a failure

yup

putting up a couple DVD rip sites and a page with pictures of fancy cars on them doesn't guarantee any success at all...not that SoS did that, I'm just speaking in general terms...

[sonofsam]

then again, there's nothing wrong with your failure, you're 21, right?

you don't really need to concentrate on biz, even though most people here will tell you that's the most important thing in life

you made some wrong choices and apart from surprising your affiliates with your domains redirecting suddenly to Lightspeed, you didn't do much wrong

if anything, you disappointed a few people here who thought you're smart enough to not make such mistakes

BTE there can't have been too many of these affiliates anyway, if there were many of them, you wouldn't need a $5k loan :-)))))

Yeah i'm 21.... I am taking the summer off... and then i'll start something else.... something OFFLINE

i don't like the fact that everything is over the net... i much rather do face to face business

[Big_Red]

once again. there is no money in adult.

[SexualDragon]

I'd spot you a cig, but I'm all out.

same here

[sonofsam]

once again. there is no money in adult.

Yes there is... but only if you go about it in the right way...

I was stupid and eager to start my own program...

what's the point? if i have a program i have to pay for all the content and absolutely everything else and split it 50% with an affiliate...

why not just use a QUALITY site like karup... that i KNOW will rebill... and send traffic to them and bank on the rebills?

that would have been the smarter way.. to just send traffic to other programs... and then when i got a grasp of everything, and a LOT of experience and a LOT of my OWN traffic... then to open a program....

not the way i did it... clearly

[DamageX]

Its a pity you did not choke on whatever the fuck it was in your airways.

And you wonder why people think you're an idiot?

[Shoehorn!]

sig spot...