Guy issues....which one?

[Arista225]

I'm dating and it sucks!!! I have friends who are "serial daters" and those like me who are very picky and don't date that much. So...here's my dilemma....it involves 2 guys at the moment (don't you like how I said ...at the moment?)

Guy #1
Nice looking....taller than me (I'm 5'9"). We have been on a total of 3 dinner dates. He has shown up at a few of the events I have hosted and we did get to talk and hang out some but I'm a social butterfly at these events so I'm all over the place. He has a pretty good IT job. He hasn't been married and has no kids. He is extremely nice.....at times I think TOO nice. I do like him but he seems to go to bed rather early....even on the weekend nights and I am a night owl or maybe he's out partying with others and just not me....Hmmm He seems to be very naive (if he were a sales rep I would think he was just playing "dumb blonde" kind of thing) but he's not ....he's an engineer. So, here's how naive he is.....

One night with my girl friends sitting around at an event I made the comment that smart women have C-Sections. He disagreed (at least he has his own opinions, right?) and I debated the subject. I tried explaining WHY some women want C-Sections and he didn't get it at all. I finally asked him if he had ever heard of "throw and extra stitch in it"....NOPE.....so I had to explain that to him and the whole "intactness" that stays when you have a C-Section to him Hmmmmm.....let's keep in mind......at times I am naive but it is very hard to shock or offend me! Also, this guy hasn't even touched me, yet....not even a hug after 3 dates.....

Guy #2
Hot guy also taller than me....about 2-3 years older than me. Met him at Ghost Bar here in Dallas last weekend and it wasn't his "scene" and it was his first time there....this is a good sign to me. He was very much himself rather than the typical "30 Thousand Dollar Millionaires" of Dallas.
He is a football coach and kind of like an "all American guy". He has no kids but likes them and hasn't been married. Has a great sense of humor and very impressive manners. Calls to check and make sure I'm alright after my car accident....even today. He wants to date JUST me and see if anything develops rather than dating the whole world. We are both very busy people and that is why he likes this approach as do I. The physical attraction as well as sexual "desire" ...I guess that the best way to put it....is definitely there for both of us.

[Twisted Dave]

Erm....

you answered your own question. Why ask this forum?

[BlackCrayon]

uh, you seem to have your mind pretty made up. why ask which one?

[badmunchkin]

methinks you're on the wrong forum - does Lifetime for Women have a forum?

[porno jew]

sound like a couple closet cases to me.

[baddog]

sound like a couple closet cases to me.

Could be the first time I have ever agreed with you.


Important question . . . how old are you/them? Also, have you ever been married? Kids?

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

WHy would a women want a c-section?

Honestly... Guys do not like the scares it leaves...

And if the woman goes to lamaz classes and learns how to properly give birth the ripping is none to minimal...

And if she breast feeds she will get back in shape real quick

And if she does the keegle exercise she will not be loose after a month or two...

I have three kids by two different women and there are no issues at all...

Vitiman D and coco butter while pregnant take care of the stretch mark problems also...

In my honest opinion any women who chooses c section over natrual birth is a wimp and unedicated to the real facts

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

And to answer your question about men... WHen you meet the right one you will know... Till then just have fun

[Arista225]

WHy would a women want a c-section?

Honestly... Guys do not like the scares it leaves...

And if the woman goes to lamaz classes and learns how to properly give birth the ripping is none to minimal...

And if she breast feeds she will get back in shape real quick

And if she does the keegle exercise she will not be loose after a month or two...

I have three kids by two different women and there are no issues at all...

Vitiman D and coco butter while pregnant take care of the stretch mark problems also...

In my honest opinion any women who chooses c section over natrual birth is a wimp and unedicated to the real facts

First of all, you might need to do some medical research into this fact before you talk! I lost all my weight plus more and I was skinny in the first place......you don't have to breast feed to freaking lose weight! It's called get your lazy ass to the gym and work out 2 hours a day for 5 days a week. I guess educated women are driven and we also know that these days that C-Section scar cannot even be seen even with no clothes on.....that surgery is damn near perfected!

Also, lamaze classes have no affect on if the woman rips clear into her rectal muscles....did you consider the size of the baby, the way the baby is positioned, etc.?

I'm not sure this is a subject you want to debate with me without knowing my full background

Should have known a MAN would argue the C-Section debate

[Arista225]

methinks you're on the wrong forum - does Lifetime for Women have a forum?

Last time I checked we were on the same forum....do you see some of the crap that gets posted here? First of all, I'm a total smartass so take that into account when reading my posts

[gangbangjoe]

i TOTALLY did not read one sentence of this thread and still i post here

this is gfy ladies and gentleman

[XPays]

both guys just want in your pants & are acting nice until they get in there. put out immediately for both and see how they are afterwards is my advice.

[SilvercashJeanette]

WHy would a women want a c-section?

Honestly... Guys do not like the scares it leaves...

And if the woman goes to lamaz classes and learns how to properly give birth the ripping is none to minimal...

And if she breast feeds she will get back in shape real quick

And if she does the keegle exercise she will not be loose after a month or two...

I have three kids by two different women and there are no issues at all...

Vitiman D and coco butter while pregnant take care of the stretch mark problems also...

In my honest opinion any women who chooses c section over natrual birth is a wimp and unedicated to the real facts

You totally cracked me up!

...Just the fact that you got so caught up on that...LOL That is funny!

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

First of all, you might need to do some medical research into this fact before you talk! I lost all my weight plus more and I was skinny in the first place......you don't have to breast feed to freaking lose weight! It's called get your lazy ass to the gym and work out 2 hours a day for 5 days a week. I guess educated women are driven and we also know that these days that C-Section scar cannot even be seen even with no clothes on.....that surgery is damn near perfected!

Also, lamaze classes have no affect on if the woman rips clear into her rectal muscles....did you consider the size of the baby, the way the baby is positioned, etc.?

I'm not sure this is a subject you want to debate with me without knowing my full background

Should have known a MAN would argue the C-Section debate

I amk educated on the facts... Both of my childrens mothers where tiny and both pushed out (lbs+ babies with out a ripp... And it is because in lamaze they teach you how to properly give birth... I have been to the classes three times..


And breast feeding is the most heathy thing for the mother and child there is... It shinks the uteris back to normal size with in weeks and burns the calories to take the weight off.. Any mother that has the time and luxury to breast feed and doesn't is unfit to be a mother in my opinion..


And honestly, I do not care what your background is.. I am educated enough to know the true facts in this subject to be able to debate it


And if you know so much about c-sections you know that there is more complications to have with them... And scare tissue does not strech, so therefor it causes complications with future pregnancies..

Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesarean_section

Statistics from the 1990s suggest that less than one woman in 2,500 who has a caesarean section will die, compared to a rate of one in 10,000 for a vaginal delivery.

Also some more FACTS that back me up...
https://www.babycenter.com/refcap/pr...h/1498696.html

Quoted from there

"Women planning to have more than two children are not good candidates for elective cesareans, because repeats put the mother at definite risk. In contrast, a patient-choice c-section might be acceptable for a 40-year-old single mom who's only planning to have one baby," says Moritz.

Here is a good read on the facts of breast feeding...
http://medicalreporter.health.org/tm...tfeed0297.html


Good read on lamaze..
http://www.americanbaby.com/ab/story.../data/1026.xml

You totally cracked me up!

...Just the fact that you got so caught up on that...LOL That is funny!

It is a subject that I take very serious and it is no laughing matter..

It is a huge growing problem in the US... There has been a 60% increase in elective c-sections in the US since 2001..

The good thing is breast feeding is on the rise

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Some good reads on the Kegel Exercise... WHich is something every women should do no matter if they have a child or not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegel_exercise

http://www.childbirth.org/articles/kegel.html

Quote from that link..

Kegeling provides many benefits:


Conditioned muscles will make birth easier, and your perineum will more likely be intact (fewer tears and episiotomies)

[Shok]

I'm in Dallas and I just want to have anal sex with you while your parents watch

[baddog]

Sorry Jon, but Lamaze has nothing to do with tearing or not.

I like how Arista totally went past my questions, but part was answered, so based on that . . . . be thankful either of them give you the time of day.

[Scott McD]

I'm in Dallas and I just want to have anal sex with you while your parents watch

Ok, you can be Guy # 3


Go with him !!

[_Richard_]

sounds like you dig number 2 more

R

[_Richard_]

I amk educated on the facts... Both of my childrens mothers where tiny and both pushed out (lbs+ babies with out a ripp... And it is because in lamaze they teach you how to properly give birth... I have been to the classes three times..


And breast feeding is the most heathy thing for the mother and child there is... It shinks the uteris back to normal size with in weeks and burns the calories to take the weight off.. Any mother that has the time and luxury to breast feed and doesn't is unfit to be a mother in my opinion..


And honestly, I do not care what your background is.. I am educated enough to know the true facts in this subject to be able to debate it


And if you know so much about c-sections you know that there is more complications to have with them... And scare tissue does not strech, so therefor it causes complications with future pregnancies..

Quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesarean_section




Also some more FACTS that back me up...
https://www.babycenter.com/refcap/pr...h/1498696.html

Quoted from there


Here is a good read on the facts of breast feeding...
http://medicalreporter.health.org/tm...tfeed0297.html


Good read on lamaze..
http://www.americanbaby.com/ab/story.../data/1026.xml





It is a subject that I take very serious and it is no laughing matter..

It is a huge growing problem in the US... There has been a 60% increase in elective c-sections in the US since 2001..

The good thing is breast feeding is on the rise

I've heard some bad things about c-sections too.. i was born with that method, but due to medical reasons.

I think this should be left to the natural way of giving birth, and not chopping people up

R

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

we also know that these days that C-Section scar cannot even be seen even with no clothes on.....that surgery is damn near perfected!

And to shoot down this statement we will use Brittney Spears as the subject... She is rich and recieved the best medical care money can buy... And we all seen her nasty scare






And tell me you can't see this... One year after...

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Sorry Jon, but Lamaze has nothing to do with tearing or not.

I like how Arista totally went past my questions, but part was answered, so based on that . . . . be thankful either of them give you the time of day.

In the lamaze classes I went to they also taught the kegel and that is why I associated it with that... Either way it all combined help make natrual child birth less complicated and go more smoothly

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Links to pics of Brittney SPears and her nasty ass c-section scares...

http://www.tightworld.com/britney-sp...pussy-pics.jpg

http://www.tightworld.com/britney-sp...ssy-pics-1.jpg

[hollinator]

Wow - it's amazing to me the feedback on this subject. How about a little "to each his own?" There is no right or wrong way to do it. It is personal preference. Lamaze has NOTHING TO DO with giving birth PROPERLY. I took lamaze and it DID NOT WORK FOR ME. I gave birth 'properly' as you say and had no problems - all WITHOUT Lamaze.

Secondly - cocoa butter HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT YOU GET STRETCH MARKS. It is mostly hereditary. I used cocoa butter (and it's vitamin E, maybe a little D ;o) up the wazoo and wound up with them. So there you have it.

Thirdly - There are risks with C-sections, like the possibility of it it not healing properly and losing the ability to have a taught stomach. Probably much less of a problem now, but still can happen. If the muscles don't heal right, you will never be able to have a flat stomach again.

Again, everyone is different, the point is to educate yourself and listen to others opinions. They just might teach you something ;o)

BTW - Yes, I have 2 children...

[SilvercashJeanette]

It is a subject that I take very serious and it is no laughing matter..

HAHAHAHA In your first post most of your reasoning to why a woman shouldn't choose to have a C-Section is completely vain....

[hollinator]

Oh and go with Guy #2 - but it looks like you kind of already felt that way in reading what you wrote.... ;o)

[Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE]

How about a little "to each his own?"

I agree with you there..

HAHAHAHA In your first post most of your reasoning to why a woman shouldn't choose to have a C-Section is completely vain....

If medical research and facts are vain then I guess you are correct..


Either way, enough of this thread for me... Good luck ladies with YOUR PERSONAL CHOICES.....

[sniperwolf]

well, i would choose guy # 2..i mean e's not yet attached yet right, i mean he don't have a wife or even a child.that means he will just concentrate on you and might fall into serious one..

[baddog]

well, i would choose guy # 2..i mean e's not yet attached yet right, i mean he don't have a wife or even a child.that means he will just concentrate on you and might fall into serious one..

He would have to be an idiot.

[Spunky]

Give them both a romp in the sack and see which one is better

[Ecchi22]

Heh. Funny thread

[mattz]

if your dating and it sucks, why dont you break up

[Arista225]

Could be the first time I have ever agreed with you.


Important question . . . how old are you/them? Also, have you ever been married? Kids?

Sorry there Baddog....I am 35 and Guy #1 is 36 and Guy #2 is 38 and yes I have been married twice so therefore I am cautious.......married to two assholes!! I have one son who is three.

[J. Falcon]

I dont have time to read you're entire post but I'm still goinf to post here anyway. Thanks.

[Arista225]

I'm in Dallas and I just want to have anal sex with you while your parents watch

How old are you? We go out and party a lot in Dallas......I'm sure you could find some of my friends to have anal sex with you minus the parents watching

[Arista225]

It amazes me how my dating thread turned into a heated debate over C-Sections.....which I will no longer get into. Oh well.....As for which guy.....well, I saw guy #2 again last night and possibly again Friday night before he leaves town for the weekend....we'll see.

[AdPatron]

Any update?

[baddog]

Any update?

why don't you just ask her . . . . I doubt anyone else really gives a flying fuck.