Is $10k enough to start a profitable program?

[who]

See subj.

What would be a basic lower limit on how much it would cost to start up a new program with a couple of new sites?

[polish_aristocrat]

please read this thread first and then thank me later ;-)


http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=688878

[96ukssob]

i dont think $10k, unless you plan on buying super saturated content. probably like $25k or so imo

[BoyAlley]

I assume we'd be talking about a program whose sites were all licensed content? If that's the case, sure why not.

[DirtyProfits]

double up to $20k, then maybe yes

[who]

I assume we'd be talking about a program whose sites were all licensed content? If that's the case, sure why not.

It'd have to be, wouldn't it.

[Violetta]

I started out with a bit less, but slowly builded it up spitting in every dime I made over the last 1,5-2 years and counting...

But it hasn't been very profitable because of that. Always need more content and design. Hosting and reps expensive stuff

[Fizzgig]

I think I can honestly say:

who's asking?

[seeric]

750k minimum to do it right and make something worth pushing. IMHO.

[Sveindt Beindt]

Good luck

[shahab6]

more than a enought

[xNetworx]

750k minimum to do it right and make something worth pushing. IMHO.

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

[who]

So people are basically saying that yes, you can do it on $10k and turn a profit, however it will be just another one of these cheap, annoying, and shitty little programs. Hmm. 'Worth pushing'... From what perspective do you mean?

[BlackCrayon]

i very much doubt you could do something that great with 10k, if you are talking about an affiliate program and everything. im looking into starting a couple paysites myself but no affiliate program. hoping i can pull it off for about 30-40k.

[edgeprod]

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

[DamageX]

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

Me too.

[Nismo]

$10k to build a paysite = Yes.
$10k to build a successful paysite = Hell no.

[alredy1]

i think x4-5

[JD]

Me too.

same. I've got 800k that I can spend so let's hear the break down

[Nicky]

Ofcourse it can be done. It depends on how much work you put into it, maybe start with 1 paysite, have it on ccbill or verotel, get a few affiliates, push it hard with your own traffic and tweak lots to make it convert and retain(good and regular members area content updates). Expand as the profit grows. No job for a lazy man thats for sure but it can be done....

[collegeboobies]

Depends on who you are

[nico-t]

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

hahaha sounds like a solid plan

[the alchemist]

Sure it's enough... if you want to start a copy/paste program like 99% of the other ones out there with paysites and ad tools that doesn't make any sense with overexposed content and no updates whatsoever.

How many paysites are you looking to build? Are you going to use NATS? Do you shoot your own content? Do you have to hire people to do everything for you because you have no clue (like 99% of the other ones out there)... There's many factors that comes into play here but remember, money doesn't mean anything at all without work, efforts and brains.

[crockett]

I'd say sure you could build a paysite but not a profitable one. If you're in the US you automatically lose $750 to visa just to get started. I would say it could be done in 1 of two ways.

Number 1 you get a really good deal on content.

Number 2 you happen to be fucking your content.. Meaning she's your G/F or wife.

Then there is always number 3 but I wouldn't go down that road but you could partner up with the content.

[Rochard]

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting
$49,000 content
$1,000 beer

The plan:

1) Cut me the check
2) ???
3) Huge success, go buy your Ferrari

This sounds like a great plan!

[vvq]

take the 10k and outsource some designers. you'll make more submitting galleries than trying to launch a program with 10k.

[EscortBiz]

you will lose your 10k guaranteed

[Nubiles]

I would say $100k - $200k

[sharp]

I think you can do much more profitable things with $10k. Even if you were just simply buying tgp submitters or buying traffic I think you'd make more doing that than with a $10k start up program.

[Sosa]

going to take alot more then that

[Doctor Dre]

You are competing with programs that spend 10x more then that... per site...

[billybathgate]

$700,000 to edgeprod for consulting

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[triumph]

I would love to see the breakdown of this figure

me too! thats a decent sized number.

[King of Queens]

Flip your 10k several times in the niche
your going into.

Sure there are plenty of sites already
to work with.

Hone your marketing skills. Document
every thing.

Track how long it take you to double
your 10k. Then beat that record.

See whats in your control from the
marketing side that trigger the response
rate your looking for.

Once you've doubled your 10k several
times I would consider investing starting
your own paysite.

Do you know the name of your first pay
site? Get it out there now.

Get tons of niche traffic coming in with
out doing link exchanges or using traffic
trade scripts.

Who you'll benefit from it later.

Just keep in mind that quality content,
retaining customers cost and that's not
even the beginning.

Take your time, flip your start up cap &
do it right the first time.

[Boobzooka]

DareRing started with 3 videos I made for less than $2K. Even if I add the cost of the camera, the VISA fee, the vbulletin licence, help wanted ads, etc, that's still less than half your suggested budget. Yeah, it took time to develop, but our forum grew, we picked up some affiliates, I reinvested what we made into more games ... now we're shooting regularly and averaging $1K/day in signups. That's a hell of a ROI.

[edgeprod]

same. I've got 800k that I can spend so let's hear the break down

"k" means thousand.

[reynold]

If you ALREADY have a big pool of converting traffic and your program is optimized for your traffic source, $10K should be enough.

[JD]

"k" means thousand.

lol yeah i know

[edgeprod]

lol yeah i know

That was a joke .. say "haha"

[minusonebit]

I think plenty of people started themselves off with far less...

[tony286]

program I dont think so, a profitable website it can be done

[nekrom]

$10k sure. If you use EU billing that saves you $750 off the bat, enough for a decent 1 page reality style episode tour, make your own join page from that.

Content I got a quote the other day exclusive niche for $600 per set, do that and some non-exclusive for filler.

Chuck in your server cost into the mix as well, unless you are already bringing that to the table. Then there is stats software unless u use a 3rd party default setup.

I would push the site yourself, dun worry about buggering about with affs. Go invite and let a few of your mates in and your laughing.

-N

[edgeprod]

This sounds like a great plan!

Sell it to playboy, and we split it.

[Evil E]

Can someone please enlighten me on the 750$ visa fee?

[Martin]

You can, don't listen to them. 1 paysite start with some dvd content in a niche and promote it yourself. You'll make your money back.

[Martin]

This is of course if you're a hard worker and can drive your own traffic.

[Martin]

Sorry I miss read the thread...

To start a program? Hell no. To start a paysite that you can push yourself, then build from that. Yes.

Peace.

[edgeprod]

Sorry I miss read the thread...

uh huh.

[reynold]

You are competing with programs that spend 10x more then that... per site...

That's one way to look at it. Ufnortunately, if everyone was easily discouraged, new businesses and sites won't be built. It's all about pursuing one's passion and vision on a shoestring budget and ramping up.

To the threadstarter: Don't let negativity and self-doubt be barriers to your success... prove the doubters WRONG, buddy. You can do it!

[Evil E]

If someone can point me to the 750$ VISA fee information it would be greatly appreciated.